Gun carrying citizen stops Bank Robbery

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: scott916
What a retard, banks are insured. He escalated a situation that was likely to produce zero injury to one that could possibly end in someone innocent getting shot. It's not like he stopped a woman from being raped or something actually heroic, he stopped some insurance adjuster from having to fill out paperwork. Stupid move IMO.

key word there is likely. i don't trust crazy nutjobs to do what i think they'd do, otherwise they wouldn't be crazy nutjobs, would they??

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: scott916
What a retard, banks are insured. He escalated a situation that was likely to produce zero injury to one that could possibly end in someone innocent getting shot. It's not like he stopped a woman from being raped or something actually heroic, he stopped some insurance adjuster from having to fill out paperwork. Stupid move IMO.

key word there is likely. i don't trust crazy nutjobs to do what i think they'd do, otherwise they wouldn't be crazy nutjobs, would they??

yeah so let's shoot those claiming to be strapped with TNT to beat that hunch.

 

[Squisher]

Originally posted by: rh71

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
Honestly, I'm glad that a gun was used to stop a crime, but it seems like it was taking unnecessary risks considering that the guy wasn't too likely to blow himself up. I would think that the best time to use a CCW permit would be if someone was going to lose their life or get seriously harmed if the weapon wasn't used. It could be argued that this was possible in this case but the odds don't seem too high.

Yup life-or-death situation only. I fear for the general population when a guy being held up in a convenience store thinks he should act with his gun when they are just cleaning out the register... then next thing you know there's a shootout and everybody winds up dead. You just can't trust the decision-making abilities of the general public (hell, I can't trust other drivers).. especially when under duress.

You realize you're asking an armed citizen to trust the decision making of a criminal in the act of a crime.
We can't asked our armed citizenry to be able to whip out a gun like Wyatt Earp plink down the a robber with lightning fast reflexes when the robber starts to stray from the task at hand and decides to end the citizen's life.

 

[RGN]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Other than I'm surprised that CCW's are allowed in banks, I see no problem with it. I say, Bravo, well done.

Allowed in banks? Dude. LOL.

 

[adairusmc]

Originally posted by: RGN

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
Other than I'm surprised that CCW's are allowed in banks, I see no problem with it. I say, Bravo, well done.

Allowed in banks? Dude. LOL.

I carry in my bank all the time. Perfectly legal.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: Gothgar

Originally posted by: Bignate603

Originally posted by: Gothgar

he pulled out a .9 mm handgun

that is a small ass bullet

Getting hit with a 9mm or a .50 caliber can make you just as dead.

point 9, I was pointing out an error in the new article.

that is equal to 0.0354330708 much of an inch in diameter.

I know you probably dot your I's with hearts. In most articles, they use a simple . on top. Look at the line below 9mm.....the word "pointed".

 

[SkipBaldwin]

This does NOT make a good argument for more guns in our violent culture...

 

[bigdog1218]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: kevnich2
Well, the guy was obviously not the typical CCW holder as he was with the Lebanese army for 9 years and obviously trained well with small arms. A typical person probably wouldn't have acted the way he did. He trusted his skills and acted as such and I think he did a good job.

While I have no doubt that the man in the article had better training than most, you are aware that the average CCW permit holder has significantly more firearms training than the average police officer, right?

The vast majority of police officers are only required to train with their sidearms twice a year at a firing range. The majority of CCW holders practice twice a month or more. Innocent bystanders are significantly more likely to be shot by a police officer using a firearm than by a legal CCW holder using a firearm.

ZV

Who gives a shit how much time they spend shooting at a piece of paper. A police officer is trained to diffuse a situation, not just whip out their gun and pretend they know what they're doing.

 

[wetcat007]

What if the guy really did have a bomb and decided to let it go off when confronted with a gun. In close range like that bomb usually beats gun.

 

[Scarpozzi]

Originally posted by: SkipBaldwin
This does NOT make a good argument for more guns in our violent culture...

Not this crap again. I'm a liberal and I believe it's ok to carry a gun.

When you buy a gun, they take your thumbprints and do a background check on you. The folks who rob places rarely buy guns from legit stores...they get unregistered firearms off the streets. Some people break the laws after they get their carry permits, but it's usually exwife and alcohol related. They don't do random acts of violence or try to knock off a 7/11.

 

[SkipBaldwin]

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi

Originally posted by: SkipBaldwin
This does NOT make a good argument for more guns in our violent culture...

Not this crap again. I'm a liberal and I believe it's ok to carry a gun.

When you buy a gun, they take your thumbprints and do a background check on you. The folks who rob places rarely buy guns from legit stores...they get unregistered firearms off the streets. Some people break the laws after they get their carry permits, but it's usually exwife and alcohol related. They don't do random acts of violence or try to knock off a 7/11.

Sure, sure. Mention all the Brit armed bank robberies while you're at it, just to be thorough...

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: kevnich2
Well, the guy was obviously not the typical CCW holder as he was with the Lebanese army for 9 years and obviously trained well with small arms. A typical person probably wouldn't have acted the way he did. He trusted his skills and acted as such and I think he did a good job.

While I have no doubt that the man in the article had better training than most, you are aware that the average CCW permit holder has significantly more firearms training than the average police officer, right?

The vast majority of police officers are only required to train with their sidearms twice a year at a firing range. The majority of CCW holders practice twice a month or more. Innocent bystanders are significantly more likely to be shot by a police officer using a firearm than by a legal CCW holder using a firearm.

ZV

The fact that police outnumber CCW holders by a very significant number is probably of no interest to you though.

FAIL.

The opposite is true, in free states at least.

Dude, your crazy ass lives in Oregon. That's California's Canada. Through your psychosis, don't you find that a little, uh, odd?

I don't find it odd at all. I can buy any firearm I want with no waiting period and walk out with it the minute I purchase it, can own fully automatic and suppressed weapons, and I have legal CCW. Does not sound odd to me at all, it is called FREEDOM.

Not to mention there is no sales tax on any items mentioned above.

You can have suppressed guns there? I think we can have full auto with a machine gun permit, but IIRC suprressed is illegal in MA.

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: Jschmuck2

Originally posted by: adairusmc

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: kevnich2
Well, the guy was obviously not the typical CCW holder as he was with the Lebanese army for 9 years and obviously trained well with small arms. A typical person probably wouldn't have acted the way he did. He trusted his skills and acted as such and I think he did a good job.

While I have no doubt that the man in the article had better training than most, you are aware that the average CCW permit holder has significantly more firearms training than the average police officer, right?

The vast majority of police officers are only required to train with their sidearms twice a year at a firing range. The majority of CCW holders practice twice a month or more. Innocent bystanders are significantly more likely to be shot by a police officer using a firearm than by a legal CCW holder using a firearm.

ZV

The fact that police outnumber CCW holders by a very significant number is probably of no interest to you though.

FAIL.

The opposite is true, in free states at least.

Dude, your crazy ass lives in Oregon. That's California's Canada. Through your psychosis, don't you find that a little, uh, odd?

I don't find it odd at all. I can buy any firearm I want with no waiting period and walk out with it the minute I purchase it, can own fully automatic and suppressed weapons, and I have legal CCW. Does not sound odd to me at all, it is called FREEDOM.

Not to mention there is no sales tax on any items mentioned above.

I love Oregon's lack of sales tax.

The income tax on the other hand...