guidelines for tipping while out at the bar

[Farbio]

lukfilm -
i have no problem with switching to the other system of not tipping and getting paid a steady wage - wouldn't bother me one bit, but no one else seems to think its a good idea, or if they do, they don't make enough fuss about it besides bitching on here, so until then, we must go with what we have, as shitty as it might be

 

[dolph]

do you want to know the real reason people get irate over tipping?

because most of us do our jobs without tips. we think that tipping started out as a good idea, but then became assumed and corrupted. we honestly wouldn't care if our meals were 15% more to cover gratuity as long as it was included in the bill, so we wouldn't have to wonder what the appropriate amount to leave is. unfortunately, amused is probably right, and we would be getting best buy service at restaurants if they weren't working for tips. so overall, it's a crappy system because we have servers that are primarily motivated by money that we control whether or not we give, while we grumble that their bosses should pay them more so we don't feel obligated to tip them. tipping to me feels like forced charity.

p.s. besides japan, many other countries don't use gratutity (or very little) unless the service is so exceptional that you actually want to give them extra money. *we* are the exception, *they* are the norm.

 

[bolido2000]

Originally posted by: dolph
do you want to know the real reason people get irate over tipping?

because most of us do our jobs without tips. we think that tipping started out as a good idea, but then became assumed and corrupted. we honestly wouldn't care if our meals were 15% more to cover gratuity as long as it was included in the bill, so we wouldn't have to wonder what the appropriate amount to leave is. unfortunately, amused is probably right, and we would be getting best buy service at restaurants if they weren't working for tips. so overall, it's a crappy system because we have servers that are primarily motivated by money that we control whether or not we give, while we grumble that their bosses should pay them more so we don't feel obligated to tip them. tipping to me feels like forced charity.

p.s. besides japan, many other countries don't use gratutity (or very little) unless the service is so exceptional that you actually want to give them extra money. *we* are the exception, *they* are the norm.

Yeap I agree with you. It would be nearly impossible to change the system now tho.

 

[AnyMal]

Here are my "tips" (pun intended):

1. I'll tip whatever I feel is appropriate.
2. Give me an attitude and I'll have no problem walking out without paying for my meal. Have the manager deduct it from your $2.00/hr wages. That will teach you common courtesy really quick.
3. Speaking of the courtesy. I expect the same level of service from McDonalds and upscale steakhouse. Contrary to what many waiters/bartenders believe it is I, the customer, who is doing them a favor by patronizing their establishment.
4. I'll order whatever I want to drink and it better be fast to my liking, or it's going back and I'm not paying for it.

Just rememeber the two golden rules of retail/service industry:
a. Customer is always right.
b. If you think customer is wrong, see line a.