This is bullshit, I believe our president and government is trying to hide what is behind the curtains with the economic crisis. I wonder who the mysterious visitors are... perhaps some Chinese leaders or maybe CEOs and Bankers...
Over his 8 years in office, Bush managed to carve out a significant amount of additional executive power and privilege. Looks like regardless of promises of transparency etc, Obama is not going to be able to resist hanging on to the things that Bush carved out.
:thumbsdown: to Bush for doing this. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: to Obama for chastising Bush and then going back on his promises and continuing bad Bush policies.
:thumbsdown: to Bush for doing this. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: to Obama for chastising Bush and then going back on his promises and continuing bad Bush policies.
Chunkee
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why is this news or 'disappointing' to anyone? did you expect something else? do you really think that Hussein Obama is for the people of this country? you really need to wake up here. black, white, chinese, hispanic...whatever, the coarse blood running through the veins of US Govt, is simply politician. money, more money, power, more power...its all the same.
you guys were duped.
Did not Nader make a statement, the future will hold the proof as to whether or not Hussein Obama is Uncle Sam or Uncle Tom? Meaning, will he simply be another toady for the powerful interest groups that pay well.
you guys were duped.
Did not Nader make a statement, the future will hold the proof as to whether or not Hussein Obama is Uncle Sam or Uncle Tom? Meaning, will he simply be another toady for the powerful interest groups that pay well.
One of the more retarded things I've heard on this forum, good job. Obviously he's just holding onto what Bush started, but that's not really an excuse. I'm pretty sure the whole left was banking on a President that did NOT carry on the policies that Bush invented especially in regard to transparency and secret keeping. It's not really a big deal though, you have to expect these things, and besides, it's just a list of visitors. ..... riiiight?
Well, the policy started with the Bush Administration, right? Or is your issue that nothing should be traced back to the source? Is that it, Corn? We'll just shrug our shoulders and wonder where all this crap started...
This is so historic! The way he continues Bush's policies. This is the moment!, he continues Bush's polices and actions.
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What's the running score of the things he said he'd "change" from GWB and went and stayed the course? It's gotta be up there. Seems at least once a week something like this happens.
QuantumPion
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How the hell do you do that?
Anyway I do like the logic in this thread. Bush was evil when he withheld information. But it's OK for Obama to do it, because Bush did it. What?
:laugh:
Man, I really need a "Craig totally owned" counter. I think it would exceed the maximum value for integers by now...it would have to be a floating point number...hmm...
So, let us summarize, shall we? Here is the liberal argument:
Bush does something = BAD! :shocked::brokenheart::disgust:
:evil::frown::|:roll::Q:thumbsdown:Obama does the same thing = GOOD! :beer:
:gift::heart:
:sun::thumbsup::wine:Bush set precedent that The Executive Branch is above The Judicial and there were many cries against the travesty. Now it's Obama ignoring the law and it's just meh? How truly pathetic. The partisanship in this country is the true reason we're sinking in a hurry. It's called blind ideology for a reason.
The way I'd do it is, you hit 'quote' to a post, and cut and past the generated text and stick it in a notepad, and then do it to each of the posts you want to include.
His comment makes no sense to me - I said the same thing in four posts on different aspects, all saying I'm in favor of the public's access on this - under Bush or Obama.
But he did a nice job on the research to get the quotes.
And your post claims the opposite of what I said at least. Not ok for Obama, either.
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Man, I really need a "Craig totally owned" counter. I think it would exceed the maximum value for integers by now...it would have to be a floating point number...hmm...
So, let us summarize, shall we? Here is the liberal argument:
Bush does something = BAD! :shocked::brokenheart::disgust:
Obama does the same thing = GOOD! :beer:
You post another showing your idiocy. My posts all say the same thing - that I'm in favor of the public's access - in one, I pointed out the hypocrisy of the right in ONLY complaining about the issue under Obama, not when it was Bush. And yet you say I'm being incosnsistent, when I hold Bush and Obama to the same position, while you can't provide a single example of a righty complaining about this under both Bush and Obama?
Of course, we have a counter for 'Ryan showing his idiocy' - under your handle to the left.
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Man, I really need a "Craig totally owned" counter. I think it would exceed the maximum value for integers by now...it would have to be a floating point number...hmm...
So, let us summarize, shall we? Here is the liberal argument:
Bush does something = BAD! :shocked::brokenheart::disgust:
Obama does the same thing = GOOD! :beer:
You post another showing your idiocy. My posts all say the same thing - that I'm in favor of the public's access - in one, I pointed out the hypocrisy of the right in ONLY complaining about the issue under Obama, not when it was Bush. And yet you say I'm being incosnsistent, when I hold Bush and Obama to the same position, while you can't provide a single example of a righty complaining about this under both Bush and Obama?
Of course, we have a counter for 'Ryan showing his idiocy' - under your handle to the left.
And yet, there is no hypocrisy when the left ONLY complains about it under Bush but not under Obama?
Hmm...
Edit: Not specifically only talking about you with this post, since you have said in a later post that you think they should be released regardless. I'm talking about overall.
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Originally posted by: Craig234
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Man, I really need a "Craig totally owned" counter. I think it would exceed the maximum value for integers by now...it would have to be a floating point number...hmm...
So, let us summarize, shall we? Here is the liberal argument:
Bush does something = BAD! :shocked::brokenheart::disgust:
Obama does the same thing = GOOD! :beer:
You post another showing your idiocy. My posts all say the same thing - that I'm in favor of the public's access - in one, I pointed out the hypocrisy of the right in ONLY complaining about the issue under Obama, not when it was Bush. And yet you say I'm being incosnsistent, when I hold Bush and Obama to the same position, while you can't provide a single example of a righty complaining about this under both Bush and Obama?
Of course, we have a counter for 'Ryan showing his idiocy' - under your handle to the left.
And yet, there is no hypocrisy when the left ONLY complains about it under Bush but not under Obama?
Hmm...
Edit: Not specifically only talking about you with this post, since you have said in a later post that you think they should be released regardless. I'm talking about overall.
Hm.
How ironic in a post where you used the phrase 'self-ownage'.
But of course you then try to backpeddle by revising history:
Except, funny enough, I indicated my opposition to the policy by Obama as well from my first post, before any of your posts:
But you claim to now be exposing the left 'overall' attacking Bush for this and saying it's fine for Obama.
I just scanned all three pages, and found not one post fitting that description; not one liberal poster saying 'it's ok for Obama' who attacked Bush for it.
So, we have a bunch of righties accusing 'the left' of doing something not a single person has done. Welcome to the righties' version of the facts.
Just another typical example of where they have no facts to argue on, so they make up a straw man and argue against that, claiming the left said things it never said.
While ignoring that they're guilty of the exact thing in their straw man.
I see on the left your counter has gone up.
Doc Savage Fan
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Craig...it appears that you had a lot to say about this when Bush did it...and nothing other than to say "diappointing" when Obama does exactly the same thing. And your talk of hypocisy is just fuel on the fire. Surely you can see this.
Oh noes, you got me...I missed you saying "+1" to "Disappointing".
To your typical wall of text, I respond with a post worded quite well:
I wonder what you and the typical left had to say about this policy during Bush's terms? I bet there was plenty of faux outrage, but now, under Obama, the reaction ranges from "meh" to "disappointing". Where are the pitchforks that you love to break out against Bush? Obama is continuing the exact same policy that you so loathed while Bush was around! Where is the faux outrage?!
Therein lies your crystal clear hypocrisy.
In this case, Obama's administration is being hypocritical and/or failing to keep its vow of transparency. But just as hypocritical are a number of our posters, from both sides, who defend/support it when done by those in their own party and attack it when done by those on the other side.
So shame on the Obama administration and shame on a whole bunch of you, as well.
So shame on the Obama administration and shame on a whole bunch of you, as well.
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