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Cobalt

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Guitar is fake, drums are fake, synthesizer is fake... It all sounds pretty damn fake, its pretty nice though.
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)

Guitar is real, though heavily played with. Sometimes it's real mixed with fake.



It sounds like it was recorded DI, not a mic'd cab then.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)
Guitar is real, though heavily played with. Sometimes it's real mixed with fake.
It sounds like it was recorded DI, not a mic'd cab then.
That's right, it's not a miked cab.
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)

Don't listen to the repetitive machinelike beat. I'm talking about the actual sound of the drum.

1 - It still sounds fake.
2 - The "machine-like" repetative nature makes it sound even more fake. A drummers snare hits are all slightly (very slightly if he is good) different - as well as all the other drums/cymbals/etc.

It is a cool little jam tho! :D
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)
Guitar is real, though heavily played with. Sometimes it's real mixed with fake.
It sounds like it was recorded DI, not a mic'd cab then.
That's right, it's not a miked cab.

That explains the "fake" sound it has. Guitars need to be mic'd up! :)
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)

Don't listen to the repetitive machinelike beat. I'm talking about the actual sound of the drum.

1 - It still sounds fake.
2 - The "machine-like" repetative nature makes it sound even more fake. A drummers snare hits are all slightly (very slightly if he is good) different - as well as all the other drums/cymbals/etc.

It is a cool little jam tho! :D

Ok, now listen to track 1 (about a year old) and tell me what's real and fake! :D
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ThePresence

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Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)
Guitar is real, though heavily played with. Sometimes it's real mixed with fake.
It sounds like it was recorded DI, not a mic'd cab then.
That's right, it's not a miked cab.
That explains the "fake" sound it has. Guitars need to be mic'd up! :)
Yep. If it was a professional recording it would be!
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)

Don't listen to the repetitive machinelike beat. I'm talking about the actual sound of the drum.

1 - It still sounds fake.
2 - The "machine-like" repetative nature makes it sound even more fake. A drummers snare hits are all slightly (very slightly if he is good) different - as well as all the other drums/cymbals/etc.

It is a cool little jam tho! :D

Ok, now listen to track 1 (about a year old) and tell me what's real and fake! :D
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Well, it sounds like the guitar is real, but it's pretty heavily processed. (it sounds like it's mic'd tho)

The drums sound too bad to be fake, but they are poorly recorded with too much weird reverbs put on them. If they are fake, they came out of a really crappy drum machine.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: ThePresence
Originally posted by: NL5
It all sounds fake. Even the guitar doesn't sound very real. Sorry, but the drums sound REALLY fake, and I get fooled by drum machines sometimes. :)

Don't listen to the repetitive machinelike beat. I'm talking about the actual sound of the drum.

1 - It still sounds fake.
2 - The "machine-like" repetative nature makes it sound even more fake. A drummers snare hits are all slightly (very slightly if he is good) different - as well as all the other drums/cymbals/etc.

It is a cool little jam tho! :D

Ok, now listen to track 1 (about a year old) and tell me what's real and fake! :D
Text

Well, it sounds like the guitar is real, but it's pretty heavily processed. (it sounds like it's mic'd tho)

The drums sound too bad to be fake, but they are poorly recorded with too much weird reverbs put on them. If they are fake, they came out of a really crappy drum machine.

That's Mike Portnoy (of Dream Theater) drumming. :)
We sampled a small beat off a DT album and sampled a small drumroll just to see if it would work. Obviously, it didn't. :)
Yes, the guitar is real (it's me playing), but it's not a miked cab.
 

thomsbrain

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it's all fake except for the electric guitar solos. BTW, samples != real drums. you can actually replace the drum hits from a real drummer with samples, just like you did with the machine, and even then you can tell the real drummer from the machine. the thing that makes a drum performance special is the feel -- and feel basically comes down to purposely playing a little off-beat for a beat here or a beat there. there's basically a window of acceptable time for a beat to occur, called the pocket. a drummer wants to play in the pocket, but within it, they are free to move around to create different feels. machines know nothing of the pocket, they just play the mathmatically exact beat. that's why a drummer (even a good one triggering samples) is distinguishable from a machine.
 

ed21x

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they sound like authentic samples, but done in such regularity that it becomes unnatural... sorta like trance music =)
 

winr

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I cant tell what is real or not or helped but I like it.


:)
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: thomsbrain
it's all fake except for the electric guitar solos. BTW, samples != real drums. you can actually replace the drum hits from a real drummer with samples, just like you did with the machine, and even then you can tell the real drummer from the machine. the thing that makes a drum performance special is the feel -- and feel basically comes down to purposely playing a little off-beat for a beat here or a beat there. there's basically a window of acceptable time for a beat to occur, called the pocket. a drummer wants to play in the pocket, but within it, they are free to move around to create different feels. machines know nothing of the pocket, they just play the mathmatically exact beat. that's why a drummer (even a good one triggering samples) is distinguishable from a machine.

There are some session players that are virtually indistinguishable from a machine, but I get your point. I wasn't saying different.