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Guantanamo Bay detainee menstruated on by prostitute

Dissipate

Dissipate

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AUSTRALIAN Guantanamo Bay detainee Mamdouh Habib was tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him after he failed to co-operate with interrogators, his lawyer said yesterday.
Interrogators also told the Sydney man they had killed his family and superimposed animals' heads on photos of his wife and children, Mr Habib's lawyer Steven Hopper said yesterday.

The Federal Government said it was aware of similar allegations of torture made by former British detainees at Guantanamo Bay but it was the first time the Government had heard the claims involving Mr Habib.

Mr Habib is due back in Sydney within a fortnight after the US said it would release him without charge despite holding him for more than three years on suspicion he knew about the September 11 attacks and trained with al-Qaeda.

Mr Hopper yesterday detailed for the first time the "atrocities" his client endured while in detention at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba.

"The Americans used prostitutes as tools in their interrogations," he said in Sydney.

"They'd say to detainees 'If you co-operate with us, we'll let you at this woman for the night'. And if they wouldn't agree they'd use them in other ways."

He said detainees held at the base with Mr Habib reported that a prostitute was told to stand over him and menstruate on him.

"(We believe) one of the prostitutes stood over him naked while he was strapped to the floor and menstruated on him," Mr Hopper said.

Officials at the base also defaced photos of Mr Habib's wife Maha and their four children, he said.

"The Americans in their wisdom have taken the heads off the pictures, enlarged them and superimposed them with the heads of animals and then strung them up all over the walls of the interrogation room.

"As they sat there talking to Mamdouh asking him about his terrorist activities, they held up a picture of Maha and said 'It's a shame we had to kill your family, it's a shame you will never see these people again'."

He said Mr Habib also said he was subjected to interrogation techniques at Guantanamo Bay like those used on prisoners at the infamous Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq.

"Make no doubt about it, Guantanamo Bay wasn't a prisoner-of-war camp," Mr Hopper said.

"It was a facility designed to interrogate people. It was nothing more than a vulgar concentration camp and it has marked a new high in the rise of American fascism."

Mr Habib was detained in Afghanistan in late 2001 and sent to Egypt before being flown to Guantanamo Bay in 2002.

Mr Hopper also detailed abuses against Mr Habib while in Egypt, saying he was strapped to the ceiling with only an electrified barrel to stand on.

"He would stand and get a shock or hang painfully by his arms until he'd collapse," he said.

He was blindfolded and locked in rooms which were flooded with water and charged with electricity, Mr Hopper said.

"On other occasions they used German shepherd guard dogs and (interrogators) told him they train dogs to sexually assault people," the lawyer said.

"Mamdouh has said he wasn't sexually assaulted by these dogs but really we don't know.

"Who would admit to it, particularly an Arab Muslim male?"

Mr Hopper detailed the alleged abuse at an Australia Day forum, focussing on Australia's political relationship with the US.

The federal Government said it was aware of similar allegations of torture made by former British detainees at Guantanamo Bay.

But a spokesman for Attorney-General Philip Ruddock said last night it was the first time the Government had heard the claims involving Mr Habib.

"We haven't heard those sorts of allegations from Mr Habib but we're aware that allegations of that nature were made by other detainees released last year," Mr Ruddock's spokesman said.

"But if he's got any evidence to support those sorts of claims we'd pass them on."
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Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: raildogg
I need more proof than the word of one detainee's liar (I mean lawyer)🙂
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"former Army Sgt. Erik R. Saar, 29, told AP"
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AUSTRALIAN Guantanamo Bay detainee Mamdouh Habib was tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him after he failed to co-operate with interrogators, his lawyer said yesterday. Interrogators also told the Sydney man they had killed his family and superimposed animals' heads on photos of his wife and children, Mr Habib's lawyer Steven Hopper said yesterday.
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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: raildogg
I need more proof than the word of one detainee's liar (I mean lawyer)🙂
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"former Army Sgt. Erik R. Saar, 29, told AP"
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AUSTRALIAN Guantanamo Bay detainee Mamdouh Habib was tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him after he failed to co-operate with interrogators, his lawyer said yesterday. Interrogators also told the Sydney man they had killed his family and superimposed animals' heads on photos of his wife and children, Mr Habib's lawyer Steven Hopper said yesterday.
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and the ARMY SGT BACKED UP THEIR CLAIMS 😉

^^ army boy is probably a liar though...

We know that Guat is similar to the Holiday Inn, right? The only thing they are missing their are some giant ovens.
 
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: raildogg
I need more proof than the word of one detainee's liar (I mean lawyer)🙂
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"former Army Sgt. Erik R. Saar, 29, told AP"
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AUSTRALIAN Guantanamo Bay detainee Mamdouh Habib was tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him after he failed to co-operate with interrogators, his lawyer said yesterday. Interrogators also told the Sydney man they had killed his family and superimposed animals' heads on photos of his wife and children, Mr Habib's lawyer Steven Hopper said yesterday.
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and the ARMY SGT BACKED UP THEIR CLAIMS 😉

^^ army boy is probably a liar though...

We know that Guat is similar to the Holiday Inn, right? The only thing they are missing their are some giant ovens.
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Now where is that in this article?

Before you jump to conclusions, this is definately not proven. If it does, then all decent humans will be outraged.
 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: dahunan
Originally posted by: raildogg
I need more proof than the word of one detainee's liar (I mean lawyer)🙂
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LEARN TO READ
"former Army Sgt. Erik R. Saar, 29, told AP"
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AUSTRALIAN Guantanamo Bay detainee Mamdouh Habib was tied to the ground while a prostitute menstruated on him after he failed to co-operate with interrogators, his lawyer said yesterday. Interrogators also told the Sydney man they had killed his family and superimposed animals' heads on photos of his wife and children, Mr Habib's lawyer Steven Hopper said yesterday.
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and the ARMY SGT BACKED UP THEIR CLAIMS 😉

^^ army boy is probably a liar though...

We know that Guat is similar to the Holiday Inn, right? The only thing they are missing their are some giant ovens.
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Now where is that in this article?

Before you jump to conclusions, this is definately not proven. If it does, then all decent humans will be outraged.
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Sorry bout that.. it was in the first article that this one was a repost of..

 
Originally posted by: raildogg
Before you jump to conclusions, this is definately not proven. If it does, then all decent humans will be outraged.
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As if the US government will allow anyone anywhere within 50 miles of that camp. The people who are released are citizens of western countries. The other prisoners they'll probably never release, they'll be tortured until they have served their purpose (Either releasing information or training their guards for the next-generation Auschwitz).
 
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Originally posted by: raildogg
Before you jump to conclusions, this is definately not proven. If it does, then all decent humans will be outraged.
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As if the US government will allow anyone anywhere within 50 miles of that camp. The people who are released are citizens of western countries. The other prisoners they'll probably never release, they'll be tortured until they have served their purpose (Either releasing information or training their guards for the next-generation Auschwitz).
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Read some of the horrors committed at Auschwitz before you ever mention it again.
 
grotty grotty stuff, oh well mr Habib is now in Australia, and the Australian government is already cooking up charges for him! sucks to be a "suspected" terrorist these days!
 
Originally posted by: Dissipate
"On other occasions they used German shepherd guard dogs and (interrogators) told him they train dogs to sexually assault people," the lawyer said.
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:shocked:
That is a hell of a torture technique.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: raildogg

Before you jump to conclusions, this is definately not proven. If it does, then all decent humans will be outraged.
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i dont know why but that made me crack up
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So you don't consider yourself a decent human being?
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Exactly, what is so funny about this? Some of you people dont understand culture at all. You CAN compare this Auschwitz. Its all in the interpretation of the torturer and by the other person. You may see it as funny and not really tourture.. But you may not understand would it would mean for a man in japan in 1600 to get his topnot chopped off. Or a woman raped long ago - "spoiled."
This here is some sick shit, they know exactly what they are doing to get at these poeple. What they are doing is what these people will see as the Worst thing that can be done. Torture is not always physical pain.
 
Exactly, what is so funny about this? Some of you people dont understand culture at all. You CAN compare this Auschwitz. Its all in the interpretation of the torturer and by the other person.
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Give me a break.

1.5 million people were shot, gassed, starved, and burnt at Auschwitz. Here we have a few hunderd known terrorists (they were all caught while shooting at us) who are being 'harrased' - even that might be an overstatement. Is it our fault that Muslim men are sexist, told to disrespect women, and told that women are dirty? No. Screw them.

I say feed all of the bastards pork daily. It is still better than dying.



I am sick of emotional punks like you comparing minor transgressions like this to the f*cking holocaust. You are doing history a great disservice. Not only that but you are willing to take the word of a terrorist and his lawyer at face value. You have no clue at to the truth of this story, the background of the individule, or his motives. Grow the f*ck up and enter the real world.'

Whoever fed you the notion that life was all fun and games was seriously deluded. Life is war, it is one group of people vs. another - it has always been this way, and contrary to your retarded liberal beliefs it will always be this way. You can either be the winner, or you can be dead. Sometimes I would prefer it if all the liberals would put up or shut up and go to Canada. That way we could watch you kow tow to the Islamic nuts and still get killed. We could defend ourselves without your idiocy and live to see another day.
 
Two wrongs doesn't make a right. Just because worst things have happened to other people doesn't mean this isn't wrong.

Even those who aren't ethical should understand this puts Americans at MORE at risk in the future.
 
Americans already are at risk. I think that is the point people are missing. Americans were put at risk the day some Arab nuts decided to fly into the Trade Center. It is impossible to be at more risk than we are right now.
 
Originally posted by: irwincur
Americans already are at risk. I think that is the point people are missing. Americans were put at risk the day some Arab nuts decided to fly into the Trade Center. It is impossible to be at more risk than we are right now.
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You think risk is a yes or no switch as opposed to a continum?
It must be very easy living in your black and white world.
 
You think risk is a yes or no switch as opposed to a continum?
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No, but I would say that in some areas of the world (namely the f*cked up hellhole called the Middle East) we are at the high risk end of the spectrum. In additon since these f*cktards left their hellhole to kill us, you could also consider home to be a high risk location.

But to be honest... every question, situation, and setting can be broken down into two results. There is middle ground, but that the no mans land where dimwitted morons chose to reside. The middle ground should only be used to define the ends. So yes, if you understand logic (real logic) and rational thought the world really is black and white.

It must be very nice living in your black and white world.
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Same world you live in. People like you however desire to see they grey, the false options, while ignoring the fact that unless you make a choice or take a firm stance you are not being effective.
 
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