GTX700 series reviews thread

[sushiwarrior]

You can't have your cake and eat it too willy.

If the GTX 780 is $100 overpriced that pushes the entire stack down.

Unfortunately for AMD, their 206w card is 45% slower than the 206w EVGA GTX 780 SC.

You do the math, the GTX 580 was $500 and 40% faster than the GTX 560Ti which was $250.

That makes the GTX 680 a $225 product and the 7970 GHz a $250 product, Ghz is right around $440 on newegg.

I hope that helps, willy!

45% slower? Excellent work comparing an OC'd card to a stock one...

Uhh I think you need a reality check if you think everything should be priced according to what the top model costs... Last I checked, a stock 7970GE is 20-25% slower than a 780, and it costs 40% less. Good value to me. And a 680 is 25-30% slower for, again, 40% less. Your math is so screwy lol.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

They're both factory overclocked and both have about as much OC headroom left, just because AMD created a new sku doesn't mean it's any different.

 

[sushiwarrior]

They're both factory overclocked and both have about as much OC headroom left, just because AMD created a new sku doesn't mean it's any different.

No, the EVGA model is overclocked, the 7970 is STOCK clocks at 1050. You can ALSO buy overclocked models, which are ABOVE 1050. Huge distinction.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

No, the EVGA model is overclocked, the 7970 is STOCK clocks at 1050. You can ALSO buy overclocked models, which are ABOVE 1050. Huge distinction.

No it comes out of the box at those clocks, just like GHz it's based on the same standard model with higher clocks.

Just because AMD overclocked their cards, added a horrid boost feature (because nVidia had something better) and changed the SKU doesn't mean it's new silicon.

Either way, all of a sudden we stop talking about overclocking? Lulz, GTX 780 put the GTX 680 and 7970 GHz in their place, mid-range performance.



This reason for discussing this is simple, people are moaning over $650 high end after paying $550 for mid-range.

qq high end is $650 while mid-range is $450, how is either better or worse when they're both $100-150 to $200 overpriced given their performance tier compared to last gen?

 

[MrK6]

No it comes out of the box at those clocks, just like GHz it's based on the same standard model with higher clocks.

Just because AMD overclocked their cards, added a horrid boost feature (because nVidia had something better) and changed the SKU doesn't mean it's new silicon.

Either way, all of a sudden we stop talking about overclocking? Lulz, GTX 780 put the GTX 680 and 7970 GHz in their place, mid-range performance.



This reason for discussing this is simple, people are moaning over $650 high end after paying $550 for mid-range.

qq high end is $650 while mid-range is $450, how is either better or worse when they're both $100-150 to $200 overpriced given their performance tier compared to last gen?

Once again you prove you have no idea what you're talking about. Strong work.

EDIT: inb4 incomprehensible "retaliatory" diatribe that would put a street corner evangelist to shame.

 

[toyota]

the 770 is going to be 500 bucks? http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1039920028&posted=1#post1039920028


that is just sad but plenty of idiots will consider the 10-15% extra speed above the 680 worth it I guess. and really if you oc both the 770 and 680 they will be well within 5-10% of each other. and an oced 670 will be within 10-15% of an oced 770.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Once again you prove you have no idea what you're talking about. Strong work.

EDIT: inb4 incomprehensible "retaliatory" diatribe that would put a street corner evangelist to shame.

You sure proved me wrong.

 

[chimaxi83]

Either way, all of a sudden we stop talking about overclocking? Lulz, GTX 780 put the GTX 680 and 7970 GHz in their place, mid-range performance.

True, but more than an entire year later. How exactly is that impressive? Either way, I love how Nvidia loyalists grab their ankles and even bring their own lube.

 

[sushiwarrior]

No it comes out of the box at those clocks, just like GHz it's based on the same standard model with higher clocks.

Just because AMD overclocked their cards, added a horrid boost feature (because nVidia had something better) and changed the SKU doesn't mean it's new silicon.

Either way, all of a sudden we stop talking about overclocking? Lulz, GTX 780 put the GTX 680 and 7970 GHz in their place, mid-range performance.



This reason for discussing this is simple, people are moaning over $650 high end after paying $550 for mid-range.

qq high end is $650 while mid-range is $450, how is either better or worse when they're both $100-150 to $200 overpriced given their performance tier compared to last gen?

No duh it comes out of the box at those clocks. But a STANDARD 7970GE is 1050 core, and a STANDARD 780 is less than the EVGA OC version. So you can't compare a stock model to an OC model. Just stick to stock models. The whole "BUT YOU CAN OVERCLAWK IT MAAAN!!11!!!!11!one!!1!!" arguement is old and invalid.

People payed $550 for high-end at the time, now they pay $650 for a bit better high end... Doesn't mean the 7970 isn't "high end", it's just "2012 high end".

 

[BallaTheFeared]

True, but more than an entire year later. How exactly is that impressive? Either way, I love how Nvidia loyalists grab their ankles and even bring their own lube.

I love how AMD loyalists do the same.

It arrived when Nvidia felt like it.

K20X shipped less than five months after the GTX 680 came out, obviously that required a higher degree of qualifying than a GeForce product.


Nothing has really been all that impressive this generation, the only real difference is nVidia is the only company offering a high end product.

People lapped up $550 7970s and $500 680s, if you were nVdia would you have released GeForce GK110 given your record setting year in progress?

Let's see, GF104 $250 -> GK104 $500, markup 100%.

GF110 $500 -> GK110 $650, markup 30%.

If wanted to moan on the forums over price increases, you should have started back in March 2012 like I did. :thumbsup:

Now is the wrong time to cry over pricing, in fact given the performance delta this is the best priced high end compared to mid-range I've seen in a long while.

 

[Will Robinson]

Originally Posted by BallaTheFeared
You can't have your cake and eat it too willy.

If the GTX 780 is $100 overpriced that pushes the entire stack down.

Unfortunately for AMD, their 206w card is 45% slower than the 206w EVGA GTX 780 SC.

You do the math, the GTX 580 was $500 and 40% faster than the GTX 560Ti which was $250.

That makes the GTX 680 a $225 product and the 7970 GHz a $250 product, Ghz is right around $440 on newegg.

Let me know when NVDA has the GTX680 for $225....

ps...your math teacher is probably flipping burgers at MACs as penance...:hmm:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

Let me know when NVDA has the GTX680 for $225....

ps...your math teacher is probably flipping burgers at MACs as penance...:hmm:

I'm not really sure what your point is here, but given your history and that follow up sentence all signs point to low level trolling.

 

[sushiwarrior]

I'm not really sure what your point is here, but given your history and that follow up sentence all signs point to low level trolling.

His point is your suggestion that the 680 should sell for half it's price, even though it's already more cost efficient than the 780, is ill thought out at best and on the level of a 3 year old who wants everything for free at worst :| You're the one coming in here and trolling...

 

[chimaxi83]

I love how AMD loyalists do the same.

It arrived when Nvidia felt like it.

K20X shipped less than five months after the GTX 680 came out, obviously that required a higher degree of qualifying than a GeForce product.


Nothing has really been all that impressive this generation, the only real difference is nVidia is the only company offering a high end product.

People lapped up $550 7970s and $500 680s, if you were nVdia would you have released GeForce GK110 given your record setting year in progress?

Let's see, GF104 $250 -> GK104 $500, markup 100%.

GF110 $500 -> GK110 $650, markup 30%.

If wanted to moan on the forums over price increases, you should have started back in March 2012 like I did. :thumbsup:

Now is the wrong time to cry over pricing, in fact given the performance delta this is the best priced high end compared to mid-range I've seen in a long while.

Stating a valid and simple opinion is crying? Lol. So whoever doesn't bend over to these silly price increases is crying? I can and do buy my own stuff, I might even pick up a 780 or two, but that doesn't mean the price increase that your idol has made you all warm and fuzzy to is a good thing.

It's kinda silly that you try and act oblivious to price when you got a couple cheap 7950s (that you're now frantically trying to sell to buy a 780). Lulz, yeah price doesn't matter.

I'm not really sure what your point is here, but given your history and that follow up sentence all signs point to low level trolling.

Given YOUR history, you probably shouldn't point out that of others. You're still the same old drama fanatic who got himself purposely banned for quite a while throwing cute little mantrums, which ironically enough now apply to you, AMD owner.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

His point is your suggestion that the 680 should sell for half it's price, even though it's already more cost efficient than the 780, is ill thought out at best and on the level of a 3 year old who wants everything for free at worst :| You're the one coming in here and trolling...

Shouldn't it? It's GK104, the derivative of GF104/114 the mid-range product from last gen. I could see there being a debate before Titan/780, but how is this even a discussion at this point?

High end is always less cost effective, why does this even need to be stated? Point was the gap in cost shrunk this generation between the 780 and 680/7970. The cost delta is less, the performance delta is the same.

Heck I even gave an example, 41% more performance than the GTX 560Ti cost you twice as much -> GTX 580.

Trolling what/who exactly?

Stating a valid and simple opinion is crying? Lol. So whoever doesn't bend over to these silly price increases is crying? I can and do buy my own stuff, I might even pick up a 780 or two, but that doesn't mean the price increase that your idol has made you all warm and fuzzy to is a good thing.

It's kinda silly that you try and act oblivious to price when you got a couple cheap 7950s (that you're now frantically trying to sell to buy a 780). Lulz, yeah price doesn't matter.



Given YOUR history, you probably shouldn't point out that of others. You're still the same old drama fanatic who got himself purposely banned for quite a while throwing cute little mantrums, which ironically enough now apply to you, AMD owner.

Nice job missing the point. The personal attack while weak, was a nice touch.

 

[skipsneeky2]

People take their video cards very seriously in this thread jesus christ.:awe:

 

[sushiwarrior]

Shouldn't it? It's GK104, the derivative of GF104/114 the mid-range product from last gen. I could see there being a debate before Titan/780, but how is this even a discussion at this point?

High end is always less cost effective, why does this even need to be stated?

Heck I even gave an example, 41% more performance than the GTX 560Ti cost you twice as much -> GTX 580.

The problem is you are now calling the 7970/680 "mid range". They are the actual high end, and show good value for a high end card (as they have been having price wars etc.). The Titan/780 are simply "ultra high end", and you pay for it. It doesn't mean the 7970 or 680 should cost any less as they still are better value than the 780 and (of course) the Titan. Having a higher-end product doesn't somehow "squish" the lineup.

Also you are suggesting a $400 gap between the top card and the #2. Are you on crack? Why would you pay over TWICE as much for a card that is 20-25% faster?

 

[lavaheadache]

I'm glad to see that some of you in here are still fighting the good fight, lol. One of my New Years resolutions was to back off in the participation of armchair wars and actually use the hardware that I love so much but I'm you guys are here to give me my fix.


Beers on me!!!!

 

[lavaheadache]

People take their video cards very seriously in this thread jesus christ.:awe:

That's not what this is about and you know it.... :hmm:

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I'm glad to see that some of you in here are still fighting the good fight, lol. One of my New Years resolutions was to back off in the participation of armchair wars and actually use the hardware that I love so much but I'm you guys are here to give me my fix.


Beers on me!!!!

I've been tabbing out, I should make a resolution to not go over basic facts/logic with new posters. I'm playing a game, while mining on my other card, in the same system, while posting on the forum!

Multitasking ftw :awe:

 

[tviceman]

People take their video cards very seriously in this thread jesus christ.:awe:

Without a doubt. At least half of Chimax's posts involve lube, eating something up, Nvidia fanboys, and other childish innuendos. He takes the whole debate about as personal as a 14 year old's first girlfriend break up.

 

[tviceman]

And show good value for a high end card (as they have been having price wars etc.).

Not particularly good value. Not compared to how much prices started out at and dipped when Cypress / Fermi 1.0 were fighting it out and, to a lesser degree, with Cayman / Fermi 2.0.

 

[hawtdawg]

I like my 780. After OCing there's no real difference in performance between it and the Titan I had. 5% or less.

 

[omeds]

I like my 780. After OCing there's no real difference in performance between it and the Titan I had. 5% or less.

Yeah I'm having a pretty good experience with mine in SLI. They're slightly faster than the 3-way 680's I had previously, in games or benches that scale well on both configs. After a decent oc they're a good chunk faster than stock Titan.

Example - Heaven Valley ultra HD preset with oc'd 3-way 680's scored 122 fps, 780 SLI with oc score 128fps.

 

[hawtdawg]

Yeah I'm having a pretty good experience with mine in SLI. They're slightly faster than the 3-way 680's I had previously, in games or benches that scale well on both configs. After a decent oc they're a good chunk faster than stock Titan.

Example - Heaven Valley ultra HD preset with oc'd 3-way 680's scored 122 fps, 780 SLI with oc score 128fps.

I score 78.6 with my card, most of the Titans in the OCN thread don't even break 80, and I actually beat a good number of them.