GTX680 reall a 660Ti?

Smoblikat

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So i heard several rumors about this and found several people posting about it. is it true that nvidia released their GTX 660Ti (or other lower end card) as a 680 because they didnt consider ATI to offer enough competition?
 

BallaTheFeared

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Currently it only supports up to three way SLI, so in that regard it's more like a 470/570 than a 560 ti...

It has almost no gpu compute power, so it's not their top end GF100/110 replacement, however nobody knows if those parts will even hit consumer desktops, Nvidia sure isn't saying.

It's based on the GF114 design, which as we all know is the GTX 560TI.
 

OCGuy

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That question doesnt even make sense, because there is no such card as a 660ti.

It is like asking "Is a Giraffe really a treecarhatsnowboard?"
 

QuantumPion

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The 680 is based on the 560 ti just like the intel Conroe was based on the Yonah cpu, which was a low-power laptop cpu. Similar architecture but with way more transistors.
 

lavaheadache

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That question doesnt even make sense, because there is no such card as a 660ti.

It is like asking "Is a Giraffe really a treecarhatsnowboard?"

lol.


The GTX 680 is a GTX 680.

If nvidia had a more powerful card ready they would have released it. I can start talking about 2020 Corvettes right now to prevent buyers from buying current gen Vipers under the same theory.
 

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That question doesnt even make sense, because there is no such card as a 660ti.

It is like asking "Is a Giraffe really a treecarhatsnowboard?"

You are just being facetious right?
 

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Smoblikat

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Yes. I think so. It's hard to know for sure.

That question doesnt even make sense, because there is no such card as a 660ti.

It is like asking "Is a Giraffe really a treecarhatsnowboard?"

Of course there isnt such a card as of yet called a 660, its been REBRANDED to be the 680.

lol.



The GTX 680 is a GTX 680.

If nvidia had a more powerful card ready they would have released it. I can start talking about 2020 Corvettes right now to prevent buyers from buying current gen Vipers under the same theory.

What you said makes no sense, nvidias GTX "680" competes with the HD7970, which is what its designed for. So if nvidia can take a 250$ GPU and sell it for 500$ while maintaining a competitive status for performance, why wouldnt they do that? Instead of spending a ton more to acheive the same result.
 

Smoblikat

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Currently it only supports up to three way SLI, so in that regard it's more like a 470/570 than a 560 ti...

It has almost no gpu compute power, so it's not their top end GF100/110 replacement, however nobody knows if those parts will even hit consumer desktops, Nvidia sure isn't saying.

It's based on the GF114 design, which as we all know is the GTX 560TI.

Isnt the GF114 the same core that was in the GTX 460 as well? And the GTX 260 also supported 3 way SLi. Im not saying that it has to be a rebranded 660, it could be a 670 but i definitley beleive its a rebrand of somthing lower that they decided to release as high end because it was powerful enough.
 

lavaheadache

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Of course there isnt such a card as of yet called a 660, its been REBRANDED to be the 680.



What you said makes no sense, nvidias GTX "680" competes with the HD7970, which is what its designed for. So if nvidia can take a 250$ GPU and sell it for 500$ while maintaining a competitive status for performance, why wouldnt they do that? Instead of spending a ton more to acheive the same result.

Ofcourse it makes sense. I was referring to future GPU's. If you are implying that there is a future sku, what I said is relative.
 

Smoblikat

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Just thought up a new concept. Say that the 680 was really a lower end card that they are selling as 680. Maybe they could do what they did with the 200 series and release a GTX 685 as an updated version. Granted the GTX 285 was a GTX280 with higher clocks, its still possible that the flipped aeround the nominclature a bit to throw off AMD.
 

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yeah, this is why I am on the fence about buying one. Can't shake the feeling it was a lower tier part that they slapped a higher number on (and higher price). That link from techpowerup seems to confirm as well.
 

Smoblikat

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yeah, this is why I am on the fence about buying one. Can't shake the feeling it was a lower tier part that they slapped a higher number on (and higher price). That link from techpowerup seems to confirm as well.

Not only am i disapointed that i could have gotten more for my dollar had they shipped what should be the real 680, the 700 series is 5 months away. So whats the point of the 600 series being released so close? Im still happy with my 470 though, this card will last me easily 5 more years.
 

Lepton87

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GK104 is a midrange design. It was never meant to compete in the high-end space that's why it doesn't have any compute features because nV always use their best chips for tesla cards. That's also why it only has 256bit memory bus. Because nv flopped with GK100 and tahiti wasn't very impressive they realized that with the right clocks their mid-range chip can compete with tahiti just fine, so they slapped high-end price for a midrange design. And they can get away with it because it actually outperforms tahiti in most cases.
 

Smoblikat

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You can't be this obtuse.

"re-branded" would mean that it was branded before. There never was a 660. Sorry.

I understand that, i didnt have a better term to use. Everyone understood it just te same.
 

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There were rumors months ago of nvidia saying there mid range would compete with the 7970.you guys can thank amd for nv pricing this card 500 bucks as nv even said they expected amds to end to be alot more powerfull.

So technically this would of been a 660ti and priced around 350 if amd had a faster top end card out.
 

Rvenger

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There were rumors months ago of nvidia saying there mid range would compete with the 7970.you guys can thank amd for nv pricing this card 500 bucks as nv even said they expected amds to end to be alot more powerfull.

So technically this would of been a 660ti and priced around 350 if amd had a faster top end card out.


Even though this is basically a 660ti, but if it were labeled a 660ti, I don't think the memory clock would be 6gbps and the GPU clock would be as high. Also, I believe it would have less cuda cores as well. I think they took the 660ti and they beefed it up and relabeled it 680.