GTX680, images from THG review leaked

[OCGuy]

So gtx680 = 7970 +10-20% (1600p/1080p)?

Fixed

 

[Silverforce11]

Fixed

Not really, its more like 2% or worse (removing dirt 3, or use the proper dirt 3 numbers where 7970 didn't lose 10 fps!!) at 1600p.

 

[sontin]

Not really, its more like 2% or worse (removing dirt 3, or use the proper dirt 3 numbers where 7970 didn't lose 10 fps!!) at 1600p.

And you know that the numbers from the GTX680 review are not the "proper dirt 3 numbers"? :hmm:

 

[Zebo]

AMD is gonna have to drop prices across the board.

$449 - 7970
$349 - 7950
$299 - 7870
$229 - 7850

Like I said they would/should be. Them trying to rape us for last couple months generally left a bad taste in my mouth so I'll prolly just get nV though no matter what they do.

 

[Silverforce11]

And you know that the numbers from the GTX680 review are not the "proper dirt 3 numbers"? :hmm:

No they aren't, because the 7970 dirt 3 numbers are significantly lower than their own results previously, which is NOT the case at any other site. Looks to be a bad job of number entering into excel to make graphs.

This and using recycled numbers from prior reviews (with older drivers) in new reviews is why I have no respect for THG.

 

[Silverforce11]

AMD is gonna have to drop prices across the board.

$449 - 7970
$349 - 7950
$299 - 7870
$229 - 7850

Like I said they would/should be. Them trying to rape us for last couple months generally left a bad taste in my mouth so I'll prolly just get nV though no matter what they do.

AHAHAA..

As opposed to NV raping consumers all these years?

 

[sontin]

No they aren't, because the 7970 dirt 3 numbers are significantly lower than their own results previously, which is NOT the case at any other site. Looks to be a bad job of number entering into excel to make graphs.

And the other sites using the same system, the same tester and the same bench?

Really let it go. Nobody knows why the numbers are different. But to say that the higher numbers are the real one is a little bit funny.

 

[Zebo]

AHAHAA..

As opposed to NV raping consumers all these years?

nV has always given better value than AMD except 5800s and 9700pro and they never charged $600 for top card and $359 for middleware like 7870.

 

[DeeJayeS]

AHAHAA..

As opposed to NV raping consumers all these years?

seriously...just buy want you want with the $$ you have, no one cares

 

[Grooveriding]

and they never charged $600 for top card

😵

 

[Ares1214]

So gtx680 = gtx580 +10-20% (1600p/1080p)

Fixed

Only when the 7970 magically loses 10 or 20 FPS from previous benchmarks :hmm: That said though, who knows, no real benchmarks have been released, and with that little tidbit of info, I'm not so sure how legitimate these are.

 

[Ares1214]

nV has always given better value than AMD except 5800s and 9700pro and they never charged $600 for top card and $359 for middleware like 7870.

You are out of your mind with definite statements like that...Both companies trade places for best value, lately they have stagnated, but before, one company would "rape" you for your money while the other had its way with you next generation. Its called profit, not rape btw...

 

[Silverforce11]

And the other sites using the same system, the same tester and the same bench?

Really let it go. Nobody knows why the numbers are different. But to say that the higher numbers are the real one is a little bit funny.

The higher numbers from their same review team, on identical setups, at identical resolution/settings. Not from a different site, you are missing the point deliberately?

As to prices and $, I will buy whatever i want thats not the point. The point is that people bash AMD for overcharging while praising NV is completely ignorant of history, and their garbage needs to be rectified.

 

[chimaxi83]

nV has always given better value than AMD except 5800s and 9700pro and they never charged $600 for top card and $359 for middleware like 7870.

lol, he's obviously kidding with you guys, especially with something like NV 8800 Ultra's going for $800+ at release.

 

[Zebo]

You are out of your mind with definite statements like that...Both companies trade places for best value, lately they have stagnated, but before, one company would "rape" you for your money while the other had its way with you next generation. Its called profit, not rape btw...

No it's called rape when you are outside price/performance ratios like AMD has been with 7000 series cards.

7870 can barley beat a GTX 570 (5% aggregate) and costs 33% more money.

7950 is 2% faster than GTX 580 and costs $70/20% more.

That's rape.

 

[blastingcap]

The higher numbers from their same review team, on identical setups, at identical resolution/settings. Not from a different site, you are missing the point deliberately?

As to prices and $, I will buy whatever i want thats not the point. The point is that people bash AMD for overcharging while praising NV is completely ignorant of history, and their garbage needs to be rectified.

We don't know if the drivers changed; it's possible that newer drivers for the 7970 actually dragged down performance in Dirt 3. I don't think that's very likely, though, and the bigger problem is how far off the price/perf ratios are from reality. Should be 130% and not 117% (7970 vs 580). I suppose whoever inputted numbers to generate the graphs could have made a typo. Remember to pay your data-entry personnel better, THG! 🙂

AMD is no saint. If they could have charged more for their products, they would have.

 

[MegaWorks]

nV has always given better value than AMD except 5800s and 9700pro and they never charged $600 for top card and $359 for middleware like 7870.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2222

Now stop trolling!

 

[maddie]

And the other sites using the same system, the same tester and the same bench?

Really let it go. Nobody knows why the numbers are different. But to say that the higher numbers are the real one is a little bit funny.

Do you have ANY idea about the point he's arguing?

 

[Ares1214]

No it's called rape when you are outside price/performance ratios like AMD has been with 7000 series cards.

7870 can barley beat a GTX 570 (5% aggregate) and costs 33% more money.

7850 is 2% faster than GTX 580 and costs $70/20% more.

That's rape.

Its called having new and shiny stuff, its always overpriced. Remember the last time Nvidia was first to the market with the next generation? You might not be old enough to remember given your antics, but I distinctly remember the GTX 8800's sitting pretty at just over $800. But that't not rape or anything right?

 

[Mopetar]

Saw this on XS.org,

Look at the the 7970 #s

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=124718&d=1332274995

Was that the only benchmark where the results were like that or was it that way for many of them? If it's just one it's probably just some weird aberration, possibly due to different test systems or a mix up in the data.

 

[BallaTheFeared]

I just hope AMD can actually take advantage of nvidia disregarding GPU Compute, something nvidia has always touted. (wtb/ Folding benches).

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Are they selling their $500 gpu in a $3000+ card market, have they finally managed to create software support and put teachers in class rooms to teach their code? Also lol @ openCL.

GK100/110 is the high end card, this is simply Nvidia's mid ranged card, it just happened to smacking around AMD's top end gpu.

 

[exdeath]

Less power draw than a GTX580 but faster?

Would make a killer LAN PC in a Shuttle XPC. Hmm...

 

[Lonyo]

Its called having new and shiny stuff, its always overpriced. Remember the last time Nvidia was first to the market with the next generation? You might not be old enough to remember given your antics, but I distinctly remember the GTX 8800's sitting pretty at just over $800. But that't not rape or anything right?

The GTX280 came after the 8800s, and they were $650 for the top end card (for acout a month), after which the price got slashed due to the 4800 series.
Why focus on the older 8800s?

 

[Zebo]

Its called having new and shiny stuff, its always overpriced. Remember the last time Nvidia was first to the market with the next generation? You might not be old enough to remember given your antics, but I distinctly remember the GTX 8800's sitting pretty at just over $800. But that't not rape or anything right?

I don't remember that but remember a GTX 580 at $500 when it was top card although I paid $625 for water block version. Before that I had GTX 280 @ less than $500. But if what you say is true sure nV was raping. Doesnt change the fact AMD is now and with less of a reputation/name brand behind them.

 

[chimaxi83]

The GTX280 came after the 8800s, and they were $650 for the top end card (for acout a month), after which the price got slashed due to the 4800 series.
Why focus on the older 8800s?

No need to defend his blanket statement that NV doesn't charge extreme prices for consumer GPU's. He made a claim and it was disproven. Simple.