GTX480 arrived [evga forums]

[Tempered81]

This guy got his gtx480 this morning, he's sharing some benches -

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=285823

 

[OCGuy]

Yep EVGA started shipping its vanilla pre-orders yesterday, probably doing the SC today.

I am at home waiting for mine, it is "Out for delivery"......(not evga though)

 

[Genx87]

Still on the fence on what to do. Get a 470 and keep my E8400 setup? Or build a new machine + 470? Or just sit it out until next Winter and build a new machine. I am leaning towards just getting a 470 and keeping my current setup.

 

[ScorcherDarkly]

Yep EVGA started shipping its vanilla pre-orders yesterday, probably doing the SC today.

I am at home waiting for mine, it is "Out for delivery"......(not evga though)

I'm honestly curious, what made you want to buy one of these? Were you waiting for it from the start and didn't want to waste the effort after 6 months? Was it a feature you really liked about Fermi? Are you after the best single card performance and screw the cost? You have a beef against ATi?

From my point of view there's no reason to buy Fermi when the 5870 is so comparable, but obviously not every one feels this way. Just trying to figure out how those buying are looking at this.

 

[Genx87]

I'm honestly curious, what made you want to buy one of these? Were you waiting for it from the start and didn't want to waste the effort after 6 months? Was it a feature you really liked about Fermi? Are you after the best single card performance and screw the cost? You have a beef against ATi?

From my point of view there's no reason to buy Fermi when the 5870 is so comparable, but obviously not every one feels this way. Just trying to figure out how those buying are looking at this.

Why do you care? Since when do people have to justify their purchases? You the Henry waxman of the video cards and graphics forum?

 

[happy medium]

I was reading the thread and it seems his gtx 480 was at 71c after 10 min of Furmark.
Thats great to here.

Edit: Oh it seems it was at 77c at only 93% load. Still not bad.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Why do you care? Since when do people have to justify their purchases? You the Henry waxman of the video cards and graphics forum?

No one has to justify it. But when they post on a public forum that they are getting a part that many see as having a few drawbacks someone might ask about it. He didn't flame him, just a simple question... no big deal.

I'd ask about your intended GTX470 purchase (all the performance of the 5850 for more money and the heat/power use of a 5870) but I don't want to get your panties in a bunch.

 

[*kjm]

Why do you care? Since when do people have to justify their purchases? You the Henry waxman of the video cards and graphics forum?

Man chill out Gen he is just asking a question... I think everyone is a little to much on edge. They are just video cards for gosh sake.

 

[OCGuy]

I was reading the thread and it seems his gtx 480 was at 71c after 10 min of Furmark.
Thats great to here.

Interesting! I wonder if something is different between the ES and retail cards....

 

[Chiropteran]

Why do you care? Since when do people have to justify their purchases? You the Henry waxman of the video cards and graphics forum?

This is a discussion forum, he was making discussion. Nobody has to do anything, but if you are going to come and post something on the forums you have to expect that some posters might respond to your post.

 

[ScorcherDarkly]

Why do you care? Since when do people have to justify their purchases? You the Henry waxman of the video cards and graphics forum?

I care because I'm curious. I want to know his viewpoint. I don't give a damn what he does with his money. Calm the fuck down.

 

[MrK6]

Thanks for posting Tempered. Seems like he's getting about 800 on the core, which is what reviews were showing, so at least retail parts are similar. I'd be interested to see if voltage does anything (I'd guess not, but I could be wrong). Still doesn't seem worth it when 5850CF is the same price.

 

[Tempered81]

Interesting! I wonder if something is different between the ES and retail cards....

Could be, highest his goes is 77C after 3 mins and his VDDC register reads 0.83v. W1zzard's review card measured 0.99 VDDC, and like most other review cards was at ~95C.

However, reviews were running default fan most of the time, whereas this guy has 100% fan going.

 

[OCGuy]

Could be, highest his goes is 77C after 3 mins and his VDDC register reads 0.83v. W1zzard's review card measured 0.99 VDDC, and like most other review cards was at ~95C.

However, reviews were running default fan most of the time, whereas this guy has 100% fan going.

Ah OK, so the auto fan ramp up probably did not go to 100% during furmark.

So you can trade noise for temps basically.

Of course Furmark isnt exactly real-world anyway.

 

[MrK6]

I was reading the thread and it seems his gtx 480 was at 71c after 10 min of Furmark.
Thats great to here.

Edit: Oh it seems it was at 77c at only 93% load. Still not bad.

I noticed that too. Much better than reviews were showing, and aren't reviews usually done open-bench? That BIOS fix they did just before launch must have done something (increased fan speeds, readjusted voltage regulator? I dunno, shooting in the dark).

I'd ask about your intended GTX470 purchase (all the performance of the 5850 for more money and the heat/power use of a 5870) but I don't want to get your panties in a bunch.

Actually more heat and power than a 5870, but too late anyway .

EDIT: That explains that:

However, reviews were running default fan most of the time, whereas this guy has 100% fan going.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

From my point of view there's no reason to buy Fermi when the 5870 is so comparable, but obviously not every one feels this way. Just trying to figure out how those buying are looking at this.

I think the most common reasons would be:

1. Brand loyalty.
2. More money than brains.
3. Plan on SLIing the GTX 280.
4. Simply like playing with new tech.

 

[RussianSensation]

I'm honestly curious, what made you want to buy one of these? From my point of view there's no reason to buy Fermi when the 5870 is so comparable, but obviously not every one feels this way. Just trying to figure out how those buying are looking at this.

He has an itch for new hardware as an early adopter. Of course in September 2009, a $379.99 5870 was a horrible deal. But 7 months later, a $499.99 15% faster NV card is a great deal. Also, 5970 was available for $590 at NCIXUS.com for 3 weeks at least, and we know how badly GTX480 loses to 5970. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being an NV fanboy as long as you are upfront about it. It is also justifiable for an American to support an American company. However, for some reason, a lot of people just don't want to admit their brand loyalty. I don't know why, because there is nothing wrong with being a "Ford" or a "Starbucks" or an "Amazon.com" fan, etc. For example, we know aigo is an Intel fan, but he is not a d*ck about it like Wreckage is about defending NV in every post.

The guy in that thread with the GTX 480 EVGA card stated (while running 100% fan speed): "Noise level isn't too bad... no worse than one of My GTX 280's at 100% fan speed..." <--- I guess he lost his hearing going to Iron Maiden concerts in his early 20s. lol

 

[MJinZ]

I'm honestly curious, what made you want to buy one of these? Were you waiting for it from the start and didn't want to waste the effort after 6 months? Was it a feature you really liked about Fermi? Are you after the best single card performance and screw the cost? You have a beef against ATi?

From my point of view there's no reason to buy Fermi when the 5870 is so comparable, but obviously not every one feels this way. Just trying to figure out how those buying are looking at this.

There are reasons. I have 2x 5870s and I can see the inferiority of the ATI drivers compared to the Nvidia ones.

 

[OCGuy]

He has an itch for new hardware as an early adopter. Of course in September 2009, a 5870 $379.99 was a horrible deal. But 7 months later, a $499.99 15% faster card, branded NV is a good deal. Also 5970 was available for $590 at NCIXUS.com for 3 weeks at least last month. Any person who buys a GTX480 for $500+ imo is either running Linux, or is an NV fanboy. And yes I have owned a GeForce 6600 and 8800GTS before. So I am not an NV hater.

Yes all of the thousands and thousands of people that are going to eat up all of these Fermi cards in the coming weeks are just rabid nV fanbois. They are probably sitting in their green nV pajamas, in their room that is plastered with nV posters and SEC filings.

The only time they stop hitting "F5" on newegg right now is when they have to go to the bathroom, where they wipe with AMD white-paper, or to do a ceremonial burning of an ATi product.

 

[Tempered81]

Hahah!

 

[MarcVenice]

Yes all of the thousands and thousands of people that are going to eat up all of these Fermi cards in the coming weeks are just rabid nV fanbois. They are probably sitting in their green nV pajamas, in their room that is plastered with nV posters and SEC filings.

The only time they stop hitting "F5" on newegg right now is when they have to go to the bathroom, where they wipe with AMD white-paper, or to do a ceremonial burning of an ATi product.

Russian did put it a little harsh, but I too can not understand why people would buy these cards, if there are better priced options out there?

Of course there's a few buts, like sli-ing two GTX 480, but then again, might as well CF three HD 5870's Or perhaps they use CUDA, have a 120Hz-screen. A few buts, but if those don't apply, it's hard to understand why they didn't buy a HD 5970 instead.

 

[OCGuy]

Russian did put it a little harsh, but I too can not understand why people would buy these cards, if there are better priced options out there?

Of course there's a few buts, like sli-ing two GTX 480, but then again, might as well CF three HD 5870's Or perhaps they use CUDA, have a 120Hz-screen. A few buts, but if those don't apply, it's hard to understand why they didn't buy a HD 5970 instead.

Same reason people bought GT200.

Faster? Yes

More expensive? Yes

More power usage? Yes

5970 would be fun but I have a mid-tower. Also one of my main justifications for this upgrade is to get away from dual-gpu.

 

[MarcVenice]

Same reason people bought GT200.

Faster? Yes

More expensive? Yes

More power usage? Yes

5970 would be fun but I have a mid-tower. Also one of my main justifications for this upgrade is to get away from dual-gpu.

HD 5970 wouldn't fit you mean? Getting away from dual-gpu sounds fair too, it never bothered me, but I guess I'm tech savvy enough to deal with pretty much anything.

Btw, your dual gtx 280's, how much of an improvement are you expecting?

 

[alcoholbob]

I figure a large number of Fermi buyers fall into this category:

1) Will not buy ATI, regardless of performance

2) Live with their parents, saved enough money on allowance or job at Burger King to get a Fermi. Do not pay heating/AC so the only cost to them is the initial sunk cost.

 

[OCGuy]

I figure a large number of Fermi buyers fall into this category:

1) Will not buy ATI, regardless of performance

2) Live with their parents, saved enough money on allowance or job at Burger King to get a Fermi. Do not pay heating/AC so the only cost to them is the initial sunk cost.

Yes because everyone runs their cards full load 24/7.