GTX460 SE slide: trading speed for memory bandwidth

[blastingcap]

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meld...-Mitte-November-1130579.html?view=zoom;zoom=1

http://translate.google.com/transla...-GTX-460-SE-kommt-Mitte-November-1130579.html

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Suffixes return. Should be called the GTX 455.

What role does this have? Looks like it will fill the same gap as the 460-768: in between the 5770 and 6850.

 

[blastingcap]

What role does this have?

Use harvested GF104 dies that can't quite cut it for GTX460 usage? You can make a little money off them rather than throw them away.

 

[Daedalus685]

Well, I suppose nearly good cores have to go somewhere. Likely not going to hit retail but end up OEM if I were to guess.

 

[Teizo]

Suffixes return. Should be called the GTX 455.

What role does this have? Looks like it will fill the same gap as the 460-768: in between the 5770 and 6850.

Maybe cheaper to produce. I did read somewhere (can't remember where) that the 768MB 460 was possibly on the chopping block.

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Maybe cheaper to produce. I did read somewhere (can't remember where) that the 768MB 460 was possibly on the chopping block.

Good, I don't think it ever should have existed in the first place - at least not existed with the same exact name as the 460-1GB. And now there will be another card with the 460 moniker.

 

[Teizo]

Good, I don't think it ever should have existed in the first place - at least not existed with the same exact name as the 460-1GB. And now there will be another card with the 460 moniker.

I agree, it should be named the GTS 455. Who knows if that pic is right though. Nvidia did have a GTS 455 in their latest beta driver. Maybe they changed the name due to the success of the 460, but meh....I agree they should leave the 460 moniker alone. Then again, it's only a name. And, I can see how now they feel they have a better distinction of which card is faster to the less adept buyer (unless that customers mistakenly thinks the SE means 'special edition', as in faster....)

 

[notty22]

Head is spinning , lol ?
The 768 card had less ~rops~ as well as the 'smaller' bus.
Will this card have the larger bus and more rops ? I wouldn't think so, but it will be curious how , when this is o/c, it responds. In a round a bout way showing where the bottleneck might be in terms of performance.
What can they lower in this g104 and show the least fps/performance hit.
Sine the 768 card with its less rops and lesser memory bus was only 8-9% slower in some benchmarks, I would guess the card will show less performance with less cores ?
Confusing ?

 

[Skurge]

I agree, it should be named the GTS 455. Who knows if that pic is right though. Nvidia did have a GTS 455 in their latest beta driver. Maybe they changed the name due to the success of the 460, but meh....I agree they should leave the 460 moniker alone. Then again, it's only a name. And, I can see how now they feel they have a better distinction of which card is faster to the less adept buyer (unless that customers mistakenly thinks the SE means 'special edition', as in faster....)

So they want to put 3 cards under the same GTX460 name? Awesome, how are we gonna differentiate this one? Call it the GTX460-288-1GB?

Anyway, this will probably go up against the 5770 and be a bit faster.

 

[tviceman]

If this card ends up existing, it will likely be OEM only.

 

[Gloomy]

Anyway, this will probably go up against the 5770 and be a bit faster.

I don't think that'll be the case. That 256 bus does not bode well for pricing.

 

[Douglar]

So they want to put 3 cards under the same GTX460 name? Awesome, how are we gonna differentiate this one? Call it the GTX460-288-1GB?

I think this puts it up to 4 different GTX460's if you count that unofficial super-clocked FTB edition Nvidia gave out to reviewers. ( FTB = For the benchmark!)

It seems like Nvidia's new marketing strategy is to call all of their products the same version. Maybe this is their attempt to correct for the times where they gave a new product number to the exact same hardware. Or maybe it is just so they can point to the 460 line and say "look at the market share for this one card!"

 

[Slaimus]

You can now buy it on newegg, although I am not sure who would buy it at this price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130591


I think what will happen is all of the good chips will become GTX 560 at $250, and all of the problematic ones will become GTX 460SE at $200. This way, they can discontinue the existing GTX 460 which is selling for too cheap.

 

[Vette73]

You can now buy it on newegg, although I am not sure who would buy it at this price:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130591


I think what will happen is all of the good chips will become GTX 560 at $250, and all of the problematic ones will become GTX 460SE at $200. This way, they can discontinue the existing GTX 460 which is selling for too cheap.

Yep this card as is, price and performance, can't compete with the GTX460 1gig.
I hope it comes down quite a bit and has some rebates. Either that or someone finds away to unlock the other cores. :twisted:

Problem is if it gets in the low $100 range then the GTS450 would not be worth the low $100 range and so forth.