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GTX285 when?

$429.99 ?? Seems a little expensive. I was thinking they'd be around $350 range. I assume price will drop after official availability.
 
Originally posted by: jaredpace
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814130447


review vs. gtx280 OC and 4870x2:
http://www.tbreak.com/articles...AMP-Edition/Page5.html

First of all, a stock GTX285 doesnt really perform any better than the original GTX280 overclocked to match the GTX285 speed. This gives no reason for current GTX280 owners to upgrade as far as performance is concerned.
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except, the new card is a smaller process, which means lower power consumption, heat (and ability to put more of them in the same case together) and can overclock higher.
Its like saying there is no reason to upgrade from a Q6600 to a Q9550 because when you OC the Q6600 to the Q9550 speed it performs about the same...

now, its not a HUGE boon, and I am holding off on that sort of upgrade and sticking with my Q6600.. but...
 
Originally posted by: taltamir
Originally posted by: jaredpace
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16814130447


review vs. gtx280 OC and 4870x2:
http://www.tbreak.com/articles...AMP-Edition/Page5.html

First of all, a stock GTX285 doesnt really perform any better than the original GTX280 overclocked to match the GTX285 speed. This gives no reason for current GTX280 owners to upgrade as far as performance is concerned.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

except, the new card is a smaller process, which means lower power consumption, heat (and ability to put more of them in the same case together) and can overclock higher.
Its like saying there is no reason to upgrade from a Q6600 to a Q9550 because when you OC the Q6600 to the Q9550 speed it performs about the same...

now, its not a HUGE boon, and I am holding off on that sort of upgrade and sticking with my Q6600.. but...
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Yeah, but all that at that HUGE price difference? No, Thank You.
 
There are GTX 285s on newegg for $380...from BFG and XFX. The GTX 280s clocked to similar speeds are about $360. I think those are somewhat fair prices...I am probably going to buy a GTX 285...but will likely wait until the base models drop to $330-$350
 
There is a pair of XFX's on e-bay for $350 each from one of the big sellers. Seems like a reasonable price considering it's launch day.
 
That's still too much. I've seen recent benchmarks with most of those games, and an Ati 4870 1 gb using the beta 9.1 drivers and the GTX285 is only beating the 4870 by like 5-10 fps a second, yet its about $200 less. The GTX285 needs to be around $329-349 to be a good buy IMO..
 
Well I know the GTX285 only requires 2 6 pin power connectors instead of 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin like the older gtx280
 
Originally posted by: zod96
Well I know the GTX285 only requires 2 6 pin power connectors instead of 1 6 pin and 1 8 pin like the older gtx280
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Edit: I noticed that most of the GTX 285's on newegg are incorrectly listed as requiring a 6 and 8 pin connector. The photos (if accurate) all show 2 6 pin connectors.

 
Originally posted by: masteryoda34
I wonder if the GTX 285 will have the PCB reduced to 10layers and the cooler shrunk like on the GTX 260 55nm.
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Cooler is probably gonna be the smaller one with a smaller copper plate and 1 less fin array, but according to Expreview the PCB is the same P891 reference used for 65nm GTX 280/260 The back plates are also gone on the 55nm parts as there's no RAM on the back anymore.

As for prices, I wouldn't worry too much, probably just Newegg gouging a bit pre-launch. $380 for vanilla now should be $350 in a day or two before MIR. And ya some of those OC'd versions are crazy, 702/1638/1312 I think I saw for the Asus. EVGA SSC clocks look similar. Wonder how much they manage to OC beyond that.

Edit: Yep, smaller cooler for GTX 285

Lots of other pictures here of both GTX 285 and GTX 280 compared, even a 9800GTX+ I think.
 
Originally posted by: chizow
Originally posted by: masteryoda34
I wonder if the GTX 285 will have the PCB reduced to 10layers and the cooler shrunk like on the GTX 260 55nm.
Click to expand...

Cooler is probably gonna be the smaller one with a smaller copper plate and 1 less fin array, but according to Expreview the PCB is the same P891 reference used for 65nm GTX 280/260 The back plates are also gone on the 55nm parts as there's no RAM on the back anymore.

As for prices, I wouldn't worry too much, probably just Newegg gouging a bit pre-launch. $380 for vanilla now should be $350 in a day or two before MIR. And ya some of those OC'd versions are crazy, 702/1638/1312 I think I saw for the Asus. EVGA SSC clocks look similar. Wonder how much they manage to OC beyond that.

Edit: Yep, smaller cooler for GTX 285

Lots of other pictures here of both GTX 285 and GTX 280 compared, even a 9800GTX+ I think.
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Damn, that is a sweet OC from ASUS! I bet these suckers OC like mad......

 
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