GTX 980 Ti is the best high GPU of this generation.

[PhonakV30]

Geforce 980Ti shines Only in DX11 and for DX12 , you should say Goodbye Geforce 980Ti and Hello fury.those DX12 benchmarks are without Async compute.

 

[RussianSensation]

Geforce 980Ti shines Only in DX11 and for DX12 , you should say Goodbye Geforce 980Ti and Hello fury.those DX12 benchmarks are without Async compute.

Don't even bother trying to make any sense of that review. You just need to look at 2 games and 2 games only:

1) AC Syndicate - Fury X = 14 fps @ 1080P

vs. reality:
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassins-creed-syndicate-test-gpu.html

2) Far Cry 4 - Fury X gets destroyed by 980Ti by #s no one else in the world shows.

vs. reality:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/19

 

[Innokentij]

Don't even bother trying to make any sense of that review. You just need to look at 2 games and 2 games only:

1) AC Syndicate - Fury X = 14 fps @ 1080P

vs. reality:
http://gamegpu.ru/action-/-fps-/-tps/assassins-creed-syndicate-test-gpu.html

2) Far Cry 4 - Fury X gets destroyed by 980Ti by #s no one else in the world shows.

vs. reality:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9390/the-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-review/19

Can confirm what RS is saying. For both games have a look here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMvFpiiuN98

 

[SPBHM]

I
7 days after relese, Dirt Rally has crossed 200k confirmed owners on Steam.

sales for Dirt Rally started 8 months ago, early access buys were converted to those 200K for the final game I'm sure

and Project Cars was normally more expensive.

(Dirt Rally was $32 8 months ago on Steam, not to mention AMD giving it for free with lots of cards)

people just don't buy a lot of racing games/sims on PC unfortunately.

I think Project Cars is a bigger success.

 

[Head1985]

I really dont care.All 28nm cards will be crap just in couple of moths after 16nm GPU show up.

 

[moonbogg]

I was never interested in project cars because it was one of those games where they let people play it early and it was an ongoing project but wasn't finished yet and blah blah. Does my memory serve me right in that regard? I hate games like that. Ongoing half ass projects. No thanks. Make a game. Release the game. Charge me full price for it and show your confidence in your product.
Just googled it, and yep, it was one of those publicly funded projects that always turn me off. Also, Star Citizen? NO THANK YOU. Lame joke.

/rant

 

[RussianSensation]

I think Project Cars is a bigger success.

That's not based on any objective data. User reviews already disagree with that assessment against Dirt Rally. PC sales on consoles are abysmal.

0.66M on PS4
0.15M on XB1
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/78626/project-cars/

Even if we hypothetically agreed that PC is the best racing game in the world, there is no excuse for a game to be developed over 2-3 years and AMD users complaining of poor performance and the developer ignoring it for the entire time it was developed....because well the developer was in bed with NV with previous NFS games and signed up for GWs with PC.

There is clearly a track record of this developer blatantly ignoring AMD cards that other racing games do not show. Why is that? Am I supposed to believe that PC is some magical racing game that has fairy dust game engine that is too much for AMD cards?

I really dont care.All 28nm cards will be crap just in couple of moths after 16nm GPU show up.

You think if there is a GPU that's 20-30% faster than a Fury X/980Ti, Fury X/980Ti are suddenly worthless/crap? It looks like AI is not going to launch until summer 2016 and who knows when Pascal is launching. It seems there are still 5-6 months for 980Ti before it's superseded by a reasonably priced consumer GPU.

I was never interested in project cars because it was one of those games where they let people play it early and it was an ongoing project but wasn't finished yet and blah blah. Does my memory serve me right in that regard? I hate games like that. Ongoing half ass projects. No thanks. Make a game. Release the game. Charge me full price for it and show your confidence in your product.
Just googled it, and yep, it was one of those publicly funded projects that always turn me off. Also, Star Citizen? NO THANK YOU. Lame joke.

/rant

If a game is crowdfunded, I don't think that point in itself makes it a bad game. But some of these games get way too overhyped. PC was one of those and we'll see if SC is another one that suffers the overhyping fate.

Besides the fact that Slightly Mad Studios basically sold out to NV, barely 1.5 months after PC came out, they announced PC2.

The worst part? It's crowdfunded, again!
http://kotaku.com/project-cars-2-already-announced-crowdfunding-1713109086

If the first game was the commercial success that they expected, why did they have to crowdfund the sequel? It smells to me as if they had to start collecting $ for the sequel almost immediately so that they could use some of it to pay for fixing all the issues with PC1.

 

[SPBHM]

That's not based on any objective data. User reviews already disagree with that assessment against Dirt Rally. PC sales on consoles are abysmal.

0.66M on PS4
0.15M on XB1
http://www.vgchartz.com/game/78626/project-cars/

Even if we hypothetically agreed that PC is the best racing game in the world, there is no excuse for a game to be developed over 2-3 years and AMD users complaining of poor performance and the developer ignoring it for the entire time it was developed....because well the developer was in bed with NV with previous NFS games and signed up for GWs with PC.

There is clearly a track record of this developer blatantly ignoring AMD cards that other racing games do not show. Why is that? Am I supposed to believe that PC is some magical racing game that has fairy dust game engine that is too much for AMD cards?

you know the game got a lot of hate because of the AMD performance/Nvidia bias, and also their "WMD" model thing (crowdfunding)
at the same times some decent amount of fanboys/investors trying to sell it

so it's hard to take user reviews seriously as just how good of a game it was, also it got a lot of heavy competition and their fans, while Dirt Rally didn't really have a lot of controversy and barely any competition (perhaps people will just compare it to Richard Burns Rally in terms of physics and such, which is something like 10 years old, there is also the new "Sebastien Loeb" game to be released soon, but their developer has a poor track record)

still, sales (PC only) look higher than Dirt Rally during the past 8 months with higher average prices, + DLC sales

also Dirt Rally gets a consoles release next year, but the Project Cars sales on PS4 are pretty nice considering the game is not very accessible (it's a lot more hardcore than any Forza/GT)

I think both are great games/sims
and they are both usable, useful as benchmarks, perhaps with a disclaimer that they are not your average game in terms of NV vs AMD.

 

[tential]

I was never interested in project cars because it was one of those games where they let people play it early and it was an ongoing project but wasn't finished yet and blah blah. Does my memory serve me right in that regard? I hate games like that. Ongoing half ass projects. No thanks. Make a game. Release the game. Charge me full price for it and show your confidence in your product.
Just googled it, and yep, it was one of those publicly funded projects that always turn me off. Also, Star Citizen? NO THANK YOU. Lame joke.

/rant

I'm 100% on board with you.

I don't touch any of those games and that's another reason Project Cars is in this spot it's in.

It won't stop the almost cult following Project Cars has defending the game though as a reason why it needs to be used in benchmarks. Despite the joke of a playerbase, the joke of sales, etc. people will still say it's an extremely important game that should be in a benchmark suite.

Which, in that case, you might as well test the 140+ games in front of Project Cars that people play...

 

[Mondozei]

Im not sure how this is news or revelatory?

The 980 Ti with OC totally smokes the Fury X. How is that even controversial?

NV owns the high end and AMD owns the low end. That is clear. Its a lot more even in the middle.