GTX 780 3GB or 6GB?

[Apocalypto]

Thanks man, I was going to get the GTX 780 SC 3GB am I doing a mistake?

please guide me again

Thank you!

Apocalypto, sorry man, it appears you thread was kind of hijacked into a separate argument. I think PC_Gamer5150 stated it best, be patient. The 6Gb cards have just very recently been released, so it may take some time for them to really become stock items. Give it a couple weeks if you can.

To be perfectly honest, 3 Gb is going to be enough for 95% of the games you will play for a few years, but yes, you MAY have to lower your AA settings (not to off, but just not to MAX EVERYTHING). And sometimes newly released games will not be the most optimized products at the very beginning.

Personally, I would buy the 6 GB version, just in case you did want to upgrade your monitor later. But again, just my personal opinion.

Hope this helps you a bit, and good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[toyota]

Thanks man, I was going to get the GTX 780 SC 3GB am I doing a mistake?

please guide me again

Thank you!

I have tried to give you the best advice since the beginning. go ahead and get the 3gb model if you really want to save 50 bucks. mark my words you will be gimping yourself from day one and games are only going to use more vram over the next year or so. again we have 2 popular games right now needing more than 3gb at settings a 780 can handle. we also know that UE 4 will probably be a common engine like UE 3 was and the only UE4 game out eats every bit of 3gb of vram at 1080 too. I think its very short sided to save such a measly amount of money if you want to get full use of your card now and for the next couple years when true next gen games are being released.

 

[moonbogg]

I have tried to give you the best advice since the beginning. go ahead and get the 3gb model if you really want to save 50 bucks. mark my words you will be gimping yourself from day one and games are only going to use more vram over the next year or so. again we have 2 popular games right now needing more than 3gb at settings a 780 can handle. we also know that UE 4 will probably be a common engine like UE 3 was and the only UE4 game out eats every bit of 3gb of vram at 1080 too. I think its very short sided to save such a measly amount of money if you want to get full use of your card now and for the next couple years when true next gen games are being released.

I can't understand why people strongly suggest getting low Vram GPUs. Granted the GPU might not have the grunt to get good FPS with max settings, but at least they would have the option of using those settings and playing at lower FPS if they wanted. 3GB won't get you there anymore in a few games, and more are coming.

 

[Fastx]

If I was going to buy a GTX 780 today it would be a GTX 780 6GB for $50.00 more, I wouldn't even consider a GTX 780 3GB imo.

I also felt this way and posted back on 3-22-14.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2374652&highlight=

 

[PC_gamer5150]

really the biggest problem you have is not should i get 3 or 6g but where to buy a 6g.
why even think about buying a 3g when you have the $$$ for the 6g?
sounds to me that just like me you are a impatient person that does not want to wait until the 6g 780's are back in stock
thats what bit me in the ass!
IF i could go back and do it over i would wait for the 6g to be in stock

 

[Majcric]

Op, will you be upgrading your GPU again in 6 months? If your answer is no then you want that 6gb 780 for 50 bucks more.

 

[Apocalypto]

The answer is no exactly. But the problem is when they are going back in stock again, please?

Op, will you be upgrading your GPU again in 6 months? If your answer is no then you want that 6gb 780 for 50 bucks more.

 

[Apocalypto]

The problem is when they are going back in stock again, please?

If I was going to buy a GTX 780 today it would be a GTX 780 6GB for $50.00 more, I wouldn't even consider a GTX 780 3GB imo.

I also felt this way and posted back on 3-22-14.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2374652&highlight=

 

[Apocalypto]

When please? ;p

really the biggest problem you have is not should i get 3 or 6g but where to buy a 6g.
why even think about buying a 3g when you have the $$$ for the 6g?
sounds to me that just like me you are a impatient person that does not want to wait until the 6g 780's are back in stock
thats what bit me in the ass!
IF i could go back and do it over i would wait for the 6g to be in stock

 

[OCGuy]

I can't understand why people strongly suggest getting low Vram GPUs. Granted the GPU might not have the grunt to get good FPS with max settings, but at least they would have the option of using those settings and playing at lower FPS if they wanted. 3GB won't get you there anymore in a few games, and more are coming.

If you repeat this enough, it will be so!


Haha.

 

[PC_gamer5150]

When please? ;p

when they guys at EVGA dont even know it is utterly pointless to ask here
There is no answer to this question.
I asked EVGA and they dont even know?
My "GUESS" is anytime now since demand has went up and it has been out of stock for over 2 weeks at the evga store

 

[moonbogg]

The answer is no exactly. But the problem is when they are going back in stock again, please?

Can you contact EVGA and arrange a step up once they are back in stock? I think they would honor it even if they come back in stock after your time limit is up if you contact them now and express your intent to step up. That extra Vram would be worth it to me to at least try that approach.
EDIT: actually, last time I checked (long time ago) you cannot step up to a card of the same model with more ram. Did you check that out?

 

[Majcric]

IIRC, this is an exception, EVGA will allow you to switch your 3gb for the 6gb.

 

[PC_gamer5150]

Can you contact EVGA and arrange a step up once they are back in stock? I think they would honor it even if they come back in stock after your time limit is up if you contact them now and express your intent to step up. That extra Vram would be worth it to me to at least try that approach.
EDIT: actually, last time I checked (long time ago) you cannot step up to a card of the same model with more ram. Did you check that out?

I am doing just this. I applied for the step up but have to wait until evga gets them. I got the 780 ftw 3g
the OP can do this if he wants but is it really worth it to buy a 3g now and a week or so later do the step up? he would be better off just waiting

 

[BFG10K]

Any 3GB card currently on the market is going to run out of performance elsewhere long before VRAM becomes the primary limitation for future games. The only place where I'd really recommend >3GB is SLI/CF because the extra performance there can cause VRAM limitations. But for single cards it's a non-issue.

These VRAM arguments are internet mass hysteria, much like the quad-core arguments back in the day. Back then people were absolutely terrified to upgrade their GPU because certain individuals were running and claiming their dual-core wasn't "future proof".

Meanwhile I used four different GPUs on my dual-core E6850 and saw massive performance gains each time. I also provided repeated evidence at actual game settings in actual games that I played of how wrong those people were.

I eventually caved and got an i5 750 and got little out it, despite the internet's claims to the contrary. I should've skipped that whole generation and went straight to SB.

The moral of the story is: ignore the internet hysteria, source your own benchmarks and research, and make an informed decision.

 

[toyota]

Any 3GB card currently on the market is going to run out of performance elsewhere long before VRAM becomes the primary limitation for future games. The only place where I'd really recommend >3GB is SLI/CF because the extra performance there can cause VRAM limitations. But for single cards it's a non-issue.

These VRAM arguments are internet mass hysteria, much like the quad-core arguments back in the day. Back then people were absolutely terrified to upgrade their GPU because certain individuals were running and claiming their dual-core wasn't "future proof".

Meanwhile I used four different GPUs on my dual-core E6850 and saw massive performance gains each time. I also provided repeated evidence at actual game settings in actual games that I played of how wrong those people were.

I eventually caved and got an i5 750 and got little out it, despite the internet's claims to the contrary. I should've skipped that whole generation and went straight to SB.

The moral of the story is: ignore the internet hysteria, source your own benchmarks and research, and make an informed decision.

That is simply NOT true. High res textures need almost no additional graphics power and that is the very thing we are going to see. Again I have mentioned 3 examples RIGHT NOW that will peg 3gb of vram at just 1080.

And yes we all know your silly gpu limited scenarios. Most people want 60 fps and reduce settings to get that. Your logic was that if your cpu was crappy and only gave 40-50 fps then crank settings and make it gpu limited. None of that even matters right now anyway.

To tell someone not to spend just 10% more on their gpu to double the ram is beyond ridiculous when 3gb is already starting to become sketchy.

 

[PliotronX]

Something I don't see mentioned beyond size is the type of RAM. Do any of the 6GB use Elpida? I'd rather OC Hynix or Samsung and for what fits in the buffer, the higher memory clock would serve better than tons of dormant slower RAM. Like BFG10K says it's hysteria. Turning one notch down from Ultra to "High" is not going to be worth the bucks for a few poorly coded games for the duration of the GPU's capability. JMTC

 

[PC_gamer5150]

Turning one notch down from Ultra to "High" is not going to be worth the bucks for a few poorly coded games for the duration of the GPU's capability. JMTC

if i am understanding you right, this is what bothers me most.
with watch dogs in particular if you use high and not ultra
you sacrifice a LOT of crispness of the image and that pisses me off after spending $535 on a gpu with 3g's.
here is what i mean about ultra vs high texture
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/05/28/watch_dogs_image_quality_preview#.U46qOfldXGA
Now in battlefield 4 it is not like this, i see very little difference in quality between ultra and high.

 

[Majcric]

Any 3GB card currently on the market is going to run out of performance elsewhere long before VRAM becomes the primary limitation for future games. The only place where I'd really recommend >3GB is SLI/CF because the extra performance there can cause VRAM limitations. But for single cards it's a non-issue.

These VRAM arguments are internet mass hysteria, much like the quad-core arguments back in the day. Back then people were absolutely terrified to upgrade their GPU because certain individuals were running and claiming their dual-core wasn't "future proof".

Meanwhile I used four different GPUs on my dual-core E6850 and saw massive performance gains each time. I also provided repeated evidence at actual game settings in actual games that I played of how wrong those people were.

I eventually caved and got an i5 750 and got little out it, despite the internet's claims to the contrary. I should've skipped that whole generation and went straight to SB.

The moral of the story is: ignore the internet hysteria, source your own benchmarks and research, and make an informed decision.

Fully enabled GK110 is a very powerful GPU that is in dire need of more Vram. It is in much worse shape than Nvidia's midrange GK104 simply because the high end gaming is coming to an end on that chip. And Gk104 was more balanced with 2gb.

Two fully enabled GK110 still have a lot of punch and their performance life will suffer greatly from a lack of Vram.

 

[escrow4]

This is hilarious. 6GB vRAM for some sloppy old port. Seriously? Shall we all get new GPUs because devs are lazy? I saw Watch Dogs crack 7GB RAM after a few hours. For that fat downgrade - what for? Will Big Maxwell really come with 6GB vRAM standard? Actually what will be the new standard? 6GB low end and 12GB high end?

There is nothing in "next gen" (HA!) games that require that grunt. Not yet and not for a while. Watch Dogs is a mess and New Order is a joke once you see how it looks. Id Tech 5 isn't even using the new OpenGL, its what, v3 from a few years back?

 

[Fastx]

Zotac GTX 780 6GB $497.00 (but OOS- 3-4 wks but look like you can preorder)

http://www.provantage.com/zotac-zt-70210-10p~7ZOTG01N.htm

 

[EJSLP]

I am playing watch dogs(1920x1080) on a 780 classified with 3g vram and have no issues at all?
I max everything except AA, i use temporal AA not MSAAx8
the highest my Vram got was 2.8g when playing this game so i dont understand this thread or others like it where you need all this vram?
there are tons of vids on youtube with others playing this game pretty much maxed with 3g cards
6g??? for what 4K or multi monitors? then yeah

 

[toyota]

I am playing watch dogs(1920x1080) on a 780 classified with 3g vram and have no issues at all?
I max everything except AA, i use temporal AA not MSAAx8
the highest my Vram got was 2.8g when playing this game so i dont understand this thread or others like it where you need all this vram?
there are tons of vids on youtube with others playing this game pretty much maxed with 3g cards
6g??? for what 4K or multi monitors? then yeah

so you don't understand the thread yet you are not even using real AA and still almost maxing your vram. :whiste:

3 games right now will peg every bit of the 3gb a 780 has so AGAIN what does 10% more cost matter if looking to get a high end card to keep for a couple years?

 

[EJSLP]

so you don't understand the thread yet you are not even using real AA and still almost maxing your vram. :whiste:

3 games right now will peg every bit of the 3gb a 780 has so AGAIN what does 10% more cost matter if looking to get a high end card to keep for a couple years?

it is overly obvious that you are ONE OF THEM!
guys that think they know every [redacted] thing about gpu's and have to spout their big [redacted] mouths off in every thread!
I was NOT talking to you so [redacted] and [redacted]

Infraction issued for inflammatory language and personal attack.
-- stahlhart

 

[Redcoat17]

I have to agree with Toyota on this. I am preparing to build a new system and cannot see why anyone would decide to get a 780 3gb over the 780 6gb if the price increase is so little, unless there was a trade up plan like what EVGA did. By the way has anyone heard of when we might be seeing the MSI 780 6gb in store? its pretty much the last piece of my 'puzzle'.