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I'm glad we have threads like this.
I'm glad we have threads like this.
To be quite frank Keys, I am not. Threads like this get started when a product that is released is lacking in one form or another. I did not want to see this generation of nVidia products be as "bad" as they are. I wanted to see competion to not only bring prices down, but for both companies to make a better product. This generation from nVidia (6 months late) is really terrible. I had only really bought nVidia products until the 5XXX series was released by ATI, and I now have 2 5850's, one for each of my 2 machines. I was hoping that if nVidia really was going to release a spectacular product, that I could crossfire the 2 5850's in one machine and buy the new nVidia card for the other. It won't happen with this release.
To be quite frank Keys, I am not. Threads like this get started when a product that is released is lacking in one form or another. I did not want to see this generation of nVidia products be as "bad" as they are. I wanted to see competion to not only bring prices down, but for both companies to make a better product. This generation from nVidia (6 months late) is really terrible. I had only really bought nVidia products until the 5XXX series was released by ATI, and I now have 2 5850's, one for each of my 2 machines. I was hoping that if nVidia really was going to release a spectacular product, that I could crossfire the 2 5850's in one machine and buy the new nVidia card for the other. It won't happen with this release.
it doesnt play for me in FF but plays just fine in IE.
A product that is 10-15% faster than the compeition is now "terrible". My my how that definition has changed over the years.
Nah I think compared to the 5870, the 480 being 10 to 15% faster, 6 months later, 25% more expensive, and having a 32% higher power consumption under load qualifies as terrible, regardless of era.
I think that the biggest problem is not the lateness/thermals, but rather the delta between expected and actual performance. a lot of people were waiting for fermi to come out to make a decision because from looking at the specs they expected a significantly greater jump in performance. I've read more posts starting with "...was waiting for fermi, bought 58x0 instead now..." than I have "...fermi is so much better than I expected, I'm buying two for sli!!!!" Only thing worse for fermi would have been pulling a 2900xt and being slower than the competition.
I think that the biggest problem is not the lateness/thermals, but rather the delta between expected and actual performance. a lot of people were waiting for fermi to come out to make a decision because from looking at the specs they expected a significantly greater jump in performance. I've read more posts starting with "...was waiting for fermi, bought 58x0 instead now..." than I have "...fermi is so much better than I expected, I'm buying two for sli!!!!" Only thing worse for fermi would have been pulling a 2900xt and being slower than the competition.
Nah I think compared to the 5870, the 480 being 10 to 15% faster, 6 months later, 25% more expensive, and having a 32% higher power consumption under load qualifies as terrible, regardless of era.
That's a good point. I think the delta between expected and actual performance, though, is a function of it being 6 months late. Every time Fermi was delayed I was thinking 'Well, they better have something up their sleeves.' Turns out Nvidia didn't, yet still are charging $100 more than the 5870 for their flagship.
Not sure where you got the idea because X item is Y months late performance increases with each passing month. This has never been the case in the past.
Yeah? How does 6 months late matter once you buy it?
Because they could have had near equal performance for less for the last 6 months?
When it's late and isn't significantly faster then it's bad because you've had a long period where you were waiting for a significant boost. It didn't happen, therefore you wasted 6 months waiting when you could have spent 6 months with an almost-as-fast product.
