Gtx 470/480 much faster with 197.41 WHQL drivers in this Xbit review

[happy medium]

Are Xbit Labs Nvidia fanboys too?

Conclusion:
"The GeForce GTX 480 is indeed the fastest single-GPU graphics card, being an average 28-33% faster than the ex-leader Radeon HD 5870. In some games, the GF100 GPU enjoys a 50% and larger advantage over the RV870. "

The gtx series seems to be really kicking ass in this review.
Really, am I missing something?
Is it the drivers mabe?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gigabyte-gf-gtx400_7.html#sect0

Edit:The gtx series seem to rule @ 1900x1080. Even the gtx 470 is climbing up the 5870's heels and beating the 5870 in many test.

They dont do all that well @ 2500x1600 in SOME games though.

 

[Skurge]

Its me again

Anyway. xbit are definitely not nv Fanboys like guru3d. i trust their reviews.

that said, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, but they don't differ much from the original review. check it out http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-480_6.html#sect1

Granted they are a tad bit faster, but so are the radeons. weird

EDIT: the reason people call you a stealth fanboy is cuz you ONLY post reviews that show the GTX400 series in a positive light. example, yesterday I made a thread about where the gtx cards took a much larger hit to performance and minimum framrates when they used a slower CPU. id say that is not so positive, but I didn't see you there saying anything.

 

[happy medium]

Its me again

Anyway. xbit are definitely not nv Fanboys like guru3d. i trust their reviews.

that said, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, but they don't differ much from the original review. check it out http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/geforce-gtx-480_6.html#sect1

Granted they are a tad bit faster, but so are the radeons. weird

EDIT: the reason people call you a stealth fanboy is cuz you ONLY post reviews that show the GTX400 series in a positive light. example, yesterday I made a thread about where the gtx cards took a much larger hit to performance and minimum framrates when they used a slower CPU. id say that is not so positive, but I didn't see you there saying anything.

I thought the gtx 480 was only 5/10% faster then a 5870? They say 28/35% faster here?

Thats because besides being hot and power hungry, there is not all that much bad about them. I do notice they don't do very well at 2500x1600 though.

I missed that thread. I was playing CSS.

 

[Tempered81]

480 is a fast card, no doubt. xbit makes that statement, but even his own graph shows the 5870 tied or beating a 480 at 30".

I remember that roundup at launch that took 15 reviews and averaged them out for 1920x1200. Compared to HD5870, GTX480 was 15-16% faster at 1920 4xAA and 9-10% faster at 1920 0xAA. That was an average based on like 250 benchmarks over 15 big review sites. It included the 480's incredible lead in Heaven & Farcry2 with AA, and it's slight loss in Vantage & Crysis.

My opinion is: overall the GTX480 is 15-20% faster than the HD5870. Sometimes 5% slower, and sometimes ~50% faster.

 

[yh125d]

Anyone feel like making a spreadsheet with updated scores to get an updated % faster than 5870? I can't be arsed to do the math

 

[Stoneburner]

Fanboy? No. You do come across as captain-save-a-fermi though

J/K!

 

[happy medium]

Fanboy? No. You do come across as captain-save-a-fermi though

J/K!

I add that to my list of nick names, thanks.:awe:

 

[Tempered81]

Anyone feel like making a spreadsheet with updated scores to get an updated % faster than 5870? I can't be arsed to do the math

Well, I found that old spreadsheet which you have probably already seen. However, here it is again for the few who may have missed it:

GTX480: 83.66
HD5870: 73.23
GTX470: 68.70
HD5850: 62.25
Thanks to MAJORD for making this:

 

[yh125d]

Ya that's the one I was referring to. Makes it easy to conclude that 470 10% > 5850 and 480 15% > 5870

 

[happy medium]

Ya that's the one I was referring to. Makes it easy to conclude that 470 10% > 5850 and 480 15% > 5870

Come on guys that was done with the release driver.

This review shows the gtx 480 with more then a 15% lead @ 1900x1080. ANd the gtx 470 trading blows with a 5870 @ 1900x1080.

And the minimums were also still very good.

Most of us game at 1080p or lower (99.5%) ,and these cards are looking better at these resolutions.
In fact price/performance/features it seems better? No?
Or is the power still too much? Non reference coolers are allready showing much better temps.
Who buys a card like this with a 450 watt psu anyway?

 

[ronnn]

Fanboy? No. You do come across as captain-save-a-fermi though

J/K!

Or just promoting his online trolling value.

 

[Stoneburner]

Come on guys that was done with the release driver.

This review shows the gtx 480 with more then a 15% lead @ 1900x1080. ANd the gtx 470 trading blows with a 5870 @ 1900x1080.

And the minimums were also still very good.

Most of us game at 1080p or lower (99.5%) ,and these cards are looking better at these resolutions.
In fact price/performance/features it seems better? No?
Or is the power still too much? Non reference coolers are allready showing much better temps.
Who buys a card like this with a 450 watt psu anyway?

I stuck a 1000watt psu in my computer a long time ago because I thought video cards were gonna need it eventually

For those who did not plan ahead or those who have excellent units like a corsair 620hx and don't want to risk underpowering a 480, the 5800 series is an obvious choice. SOme people may want to upgrade cards without getting a new PSU. Perfectly understandable.

Also, you have to understand that the watts used = total heat put out. Better cooling means better heat displacement. Some people may not have a case that's suited for the higher power draw of Fermi.

You can't isolate the performance of Fermi without talking about power.

 

[happy medium]

I stuck a 1000watt psu in my computer a long time ago because I thought video cards were gonna need it eventually

For those who did not plan ahead or those who have excellent units like a corsair 620hx and don't want to risk underpowering a 480, the 5800 series is an obvious choice. SOme people may want to upgrade cards without getting a new PSU. Perfectly understandable.

Also, you have to understand that the watts used = total heat put out. Better cooling means better heat displacement. Some people may not have a case that's suited for the higher power draw of Fermi.

You can't isolate the performance of Fermi without talking about power.

Gotcha. And thanks

 

[happy medium]

Or just promoting his online trolling value.

Please, the ONLY person trolling in this thread is you.
You add 0 value to this thread so please Exit it.

 

[v8envy]

So, for mainstream gaming the 470 and 480 are the enthusiast card to buy? That's like saying "for daily commuting on crowded highways the Buggati Veyron is the supercar to buy."

Yes, mainstream gamers run at 19x10. But cards targeted at mainstream gamers don't require an auxiliary power supply to run at 100C. Mostly (get this) because mainstream gamers have mainstream power supplies and mainstream cases not suited for supporting requirements associated with extreme performance GPUs.

Still giving the Fermi a pass for this round. Bring on the Fermi II!

 

[happy medium]

So, for mainstream gaming the 470 and 480 are the enthusiast card to buy? That's like saying "for daily commuting on crowded highways the Buggati Veyron is the supercar to buy."

Yes, mainstream gamers run at 19x10. But cards targeted at mainstream gamers don't require an auxiliary power supply to run at 100C. Mostly (get this) because mainstream gamers have mainstream power supplies and mainstream cases not suited for supporting requirements associated with extreme performance GPUs.

Still giving the Fermi a pass for this round. Bring on the Fermi II!

I don't get using both of these in the same sentence?

Main stream would be more like 1650x1050.
performance being 1080p
and rich enthusiast being 2500x1600.

A gtx 470 will run on a good 500 watt psu. Most people should have this already ,since most who want a gtx 470/5850 allready had a high end card to begin with.

 

[Patrick Wolf]

And people said the drivers wouldn't improve performance...

Then again maybe ATI will have some improvements of their own in 10.5.

 

[Skurge]

I don't get using both of these in the same sentence?

Main stream would be more like 1650x1050.
performance being 1080p
and rich enthusiast being 2500x1600.

A gtx 470 will run on a good 500 watt psu. Most people should have this already ,since most who want a gtx 470/5850 allready had a high end card to begin with.

i have a 460w psu tht my 4870 runs fine en i cud easily upgrade to 5850/5870. And summers here make me scared to get gtx cards. Thats why i gt a dark knight instead of a reference card. And i stil get ova 70c on th core at 100%. So dnt expect everyones conditions to b th same, dnt generalize

 

[tviceman]

Those benchmarks do show the gtx480 and gtx470 performing relatively better than the initial benchmarked reviews. I'd like to get some re-reviews after another set of big driver releases from both companies, but regardless I've already decided to wait until this fall/winter before upgrading.

 

[happy medium]

i have a 460w psu tht my 4870 runs fine en i cud easily upgrade to 5850/5870. And summers here make me scared to get gtx cards. Thats why i gt a dark knight instead of a reference card. And i stil get ova 70c on th core at 100%. So dnt expect everyones conditions to b th same, dnt generalize

Well if you can run a 5870 you can run a gtx 470.

 

[Skurge]

Well if you can run a 5870 you can run a gtx 470.

you do knw tht a 470 uses almst as much power as a 5970 right? And thts nt furmark. Have a look at anandtechs review.

 

[happy medium]

you do knw tht a 470 uses almst as much power as a 5970 right? And thts nt furmark. Have a look at anandtechs review.

I don't play furmark.
A 40 amp rail should easily handle a highly overclock i7 and gtx 470.
How old is your psu?

Edit: Never mind you don't have enough cpu for a high end card anyway.

 

[Skurge]

I don't play furmark.
A 40 amp rail should easily handle a highly overclock i7 and gtx 470.
How old is your psu?

Edit: Never mind you don't have enough cpu for a high end card anyway.

I said not furmark, but crysis http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/...x-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/19

36amps, you thinks its okay to put a 250w+ card in a system with a 460w PSU? uh huh.

And don't diss the PHENOMENON man

I have enough CPU for the res I run for a single high-end card. unless its a gtx480, it might end up slower than a 5870.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gpu-power-consumption-2010_3.html#sect0

 

[happy medium]

I said not furmark, but crysis http://www.anandtech.com/show/2977/...x-470-6-months-late-was-it-worth-the-wait-/19

36amps, you thinks its okay to put a 250w+ card in a system with a 460w PSU? uh huh.

And don't diss the PHENOMENON man

I have enough CPU for the res I run for a single high-end card. unless its a gtx480, it might end up slower than a 5870.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/gpu-power-consumption-2010_3.html#sect0

If Toyota heard you say that he'd have a bird!

36 amps is fine with your system but not with a overclocked i7 or core 2 quad.

 

[yh125d]

Come on guys that was done with the release driver.

And thats why I asked for an updated spreadsheet