GTX 465 revealed.....enet.com.cn

[MentalIlness]

Specs are here for the GTX465

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-465-launch--computex-2010/9028.html



With all the rumors floating around, the recent leaked specs previously seems to be quite spot on. Indeed, NVIDIA is preparing to launch the GeForce GTX 465 at COMPUTEX 2010 which is taking place from June 1st - 5th. Interestingly, we heard the current batch of GTX 465 cores are essentially GTX 470 with just some CUDA cores turned off so there could be some possibilities of unlocking it if that remains the case. With an estimated price target of $249, it could prove to be quite attractive for some.

 

[MentalIlness]

DP

 

[happy medium]

Specs are here for the GTX465

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-geforce-gtx-465-launch--computex-2010/9028.html



With all the rumors floating around, the recent leaked specs previously seems to be quite spot on. Indeed, NVIDIA is preparing to launch the GeForce GTX 465 at COMPUTEX 2010 which is taking place from June 1st - 5th. Interestingly, we heard the current batch of GTX 465 cores are essentially GTX 470 with just some CUDA cores turned off so there could be some possibilities of unlocking it if that remains the case. With an estimated price target of $249, it could prove to be quite attractive for some.

"With a estimated price target of 249$".

Like I said performance and price perfectly between a 5830 and 5850.

 

[SSChevy2001]

Looks like the 5830 / GTX 465 should be very close in performance, but honestly $250 is way too much. I paid less than $200 for my 4870 1GB over a 1.5 yrs ago, and IMO these cards a way overpriced.

 

[bunit]

Wow this is a crappy time to be building a rig.
Nvidia has essentially failed this generation
ATI is still price gouging..tech at the end of its lifespan for way above MSRP

SI which is due in Q3/Q4 is only a refresh...so like 20-30% increase over the 5870? That's what is rumored. Sure ATI will reign King again interms of the fastest single graphics card...but..by a meager amount..

This is a lose-lose for everyone right now..
(I'm building a rig right now.. -_-)

 

[Acanthus]

Remember the price fixing in DRAM a few years ago?

I was worried about this after the 460/470 were released.

It appears no one will be able to purchase a truly next-gen GPU for less than $300.

I'm sorry but a 5770 is to close to the HD 48XX series with its 800 SP's, other than DirectX 11.

The DoJ investigated Nvidia and ATi though and found no foul play with pricing. (this was about a year ago)

All of the big 7 memory makers either plead guilty or were convicted.

 

[badb0y]

Should sit right between the 5850 and 5830 in price in performance and of course I'm assuming it will be closer to the 5830 in terms of performance than the 5850.

 

[Interitus]

I remember people telling me I was an idiot for buying my 5850 at $279.

Even if the 465 falls between 5850/5830 in price/performance, I'd def go ATI for the noise/heat/power scenario.

Got to play with a 470 for a bit, and quickly decided there was no way in hell I was putting one of those in my rig.

Sure you can aftermarket cool, but I've adopted the Showtime Rotisserie method of "Set it and forget it" lately.

 

[edplayer]

fudzilla is saying that the 465 has a TDP of 200W and the GF104 based 460 has a TDP of 150W

 

[badb0y]

Wait there's a 460 AND a 465? Well this seems interesting.

 

[at80eighty]

well ok then - looks like im only building a new rig by the holidays

 

[rolodomo]

still price gouging..tech at the end of its lifespan for way above MSRP

Not gouging, but yes, how could ATI and NVIDIA be clearer? Perhaps if they delivered a certified mail to your
house stating, "don't buy now, new tech is around the corner at the same high price maybe a bit more." On the bright side, it sure makes it easy to skip a generation per usual. My 4890/4870 crossfire still plays xbox ports (overkill) as well as it did a year ago.

 

[Interitus]

fudzilla is saying that the 465 has a TDP of 200W and the GF104 based 460 has a TDP of 150W

5830 TDP: 171w
5850 TDP: 151w
5870 TDP: 188w

Shows some serious fail there for the 5830, and that the TDP of the 465 is more than a 5870. Not accounting for cooling solutions, I'll stick with my 5850.

Sure it's not a concern for everyone, but for me it is. I like cool and quiet machines with plenty of bang available when needed.

 

[A554SS1N]

fudzilla is saying that the 465 has a TDP of 200W and the GF104 based 460 has a TDP of 150W

I'd prefer the 460 route on that basis. Even 150W TDP is a bit high though for me.

 

[zerocool84]

Every month it reminds me how great it was not to wait. I got my 5870 for $270 in Feb and the prices have pretty much stayed the same.

 

[SSChevy2001]

DP

 

[SSChevy2001]

Every month it reminds me how great it was not to wait. I got my 5870 for $270 in Feb and the prices have pretty much stayed the same.

$270 for a 5870 is dirt cheap. How did you get that deal?

 

[zerocool84]

$270 for a 5870 is dirt cheap. How did you get that deal?

It was one of the many Microcenter deals.

 

[RussianSensation]

If the $349 GTX470 competes with $310 5850, how can anyone expect GTX465 to be as fast as the 5850? ...not for $249.

GTX 470 vs. 5850 performance summary: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Powercolor/HD_5770_PCS_Plus_Plus/29.html

I am also not surprised at NV's pricing. ATI doesn't have anything worth buying between $150 5770 and $310 5850. This gives NV an opportunity to slot their card right between 5770 and 5850 assuming the performance is between those 2 cards. It would be interesting to see a review of GTX285 vs. 5830 vs. GTX465.

I agree that SI can't come fast enough. This generation has been disappointing both in terms of pricing vs. performance increases.

 

[bunit]

The problem is though, SI is probably not going to be anything special.
It's more of a 'refresh' than a whole new generation, being on the same process and all with a mishmash of NI/current stuff.
Rumors are about 20-30% increased performance over the 5870? And those are optimistic rumors via SemiAccurate. So..it just sucks to be buying a card at the moment, and in the near future.

I hope they price fairly(favorably) at least.

 

[Martimus]

I have a 5 year old computer and actually have the cash to buy a new one now, but I can't bring myself to pay these prices. I have a horrible feeling that as soon as I do multiple components I purchase will take a nose dive in price. Plus at the moment, none of the components I want are on sale at all, which is making me less likely to pull the trigger on a purchase.

 

[MentalIlness]

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/18822/34/

1024MB, GF104 based

It appears that Nvidia's GTX 460 and GTX 465 branding has caused a bit of confusion among retailers and hacks. Some believe just one card is coming, while others are getting the specs a bit wrong.

The GTX 465 is a GF100-based card with 1024MB of memory and a 200W TDP. It should launch at Computex and it will pack a 256-bit memory interface and, according to unconfirmed reports, 352 shaders.

The GTX 460 on the other hand is a GF104-based card, so it will lack some features found on the GTX 465. However, just like the GTX 465 it will feature a 256-bit memory bus and 1024MB of memory. It has a 150W TDP, so it's clear that the GF104 is not as complex as the GF100 core. Listings claiming that the GTX 460 will pack 1280MB of memory seem to be wrong. As the GTX 465 is scheduled to launch at Computex, the GTX 460 should probably appear at a later date.

The big question with the GF104 core are the clocks. The core seems to be much more power efficient than the GF100 and Nvidia's decision to use it for its upcoming dual-GPU card is clear proof of this, therefore it would not surprise us if the GF104 ended up with somewhat higher clocks than GF100 cards. Be as it may, we still don't understand why Nvidia chose to use similar branding for two cards that appear to be based on entirely different architectures.

 

[toyota]

I have a 5 year old computer and actually have the cash to buy a new one now, but I can't bring myself to pay these prices. I have a horrible feeling that as soon as I do multiple components I purchase will take a nose dive in price. Plus at the moment, none of the components I want are on sale at all, which is making me less likely to pull the trigger on a purchase.

only higher end video cards are a rip off right now. all other components are very reasonably priced.

 

[RussianSensation]

The problem is though, SI is probably not going to be anything special...Rumors are about 20-30% increased performance over the 5870?

If ATI brings SI at $399, while offering performance of 20% faster (with improved tessallation performance), then GTX480 will be suddenly overpriced, forcing NV to cut prices. ATI would shift 5870 to $299 and 5850 to $199 to make room for SI. If this were to happen by September of 2010, at least there would be some progress in the videocard sector. As it currently stands, without SI, what is going to induce price drops? With this logic, ATI and NV would sell us cards for 5 years with the same performance at $399-499. However, both companies are fighting for market share. This is why even 20-30% faster SI is better than nothing because it continues to put pressure on NV.

 

[GaiaHunter]

only higher end video cards are a rip off right now. All other components are very reasonably priced.

ram?