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lopri

lopri

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Could this be true? 256-bit GTX 460 harvested GF100?

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...shows-up-for-pre-order-at-e282ac1792bvat.aspx

According to our sources, the 1GB variant will come will GF100 chip which is completely cut down to the level of GF104, meaning 336 cores but with 256-bit memory interface, rather than the 192-bit one inside the GF104. There will be a price difference between the two, but more importantly - difference in availability as well. While GTX 460 768MB will be available for months to come, expect GTX 460 1024MB available only until nVidia clears the inventory of GF100 chips that weren't stable enough to work in 448 or 480 core configuration.
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Hauk

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Lonyo said:
It's well priced, doesn't appear on the surface to have issues like high power consumption, and performs about where it should, possibly (since proper benchmarks aren't out yet).

People rip on NV when they have late, overpriced, power hungry cards etc.
If they have something reasonable coming out that looks like it will be competitive in most/all facets and put some pressure on prices/etc, then why would people rip NV a new one?
Contrary to popular belief, no one rags on products because they don't like the company, normally it's because they don't like the product.
Everyone was shit talking ATI when ATI was shit, and everyone has been shit talking NV when they have been poor.
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Well said, and appears to be holding true. Granted, there were good reasons to rip on Fermi. I did because of temps/power consumption. Still not too happy about those characteristics, but I'm in with two of them. Regarding reaction to GTX 260, perhaps it's not as biased here as it seemed.
 
toyota

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Gikaseixas

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Can't wait for reviews, looks like nv got it right and if so i'm getting one for a new build
 
bryanW1995

bryanW1995

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Originally Posted by tviceman
If the Palit 256-bit 800mhz card performs like what the leaked benchmarks showed a few weeks ago, then I think it'll have hd5850. You'll still have a faster card, which you could probably overclock some on your own, but you'll have paid a $100 premium for 10% more performance. :/ Either way, you still have a fast card.
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Originally Posted by tincart
If the high end card performs as well as I think it will for around $250, nV might have trouble moving the rest of the 465 and 470 stock.
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tviceman said:
I'm thinking we're going to see hd5850 performance - or even better - with that $250 Palit gtx 460. Of course we have to wait for reviews, but yeah Nvidia is going to have to just drop prices and accept either breaking even or losing a little bit of money to get rid of that inventory ASAP and well before GF100's next iteration.
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Don't hold your breath on that. considering that 5850 is almost as fast as gtx 470 it seems EXTREMELY unlikely that nvidia will undercut it by $100+ on a card with similar performance. Also, based upon past nvidia policy, if it was nearly identical to 470 they would simply name the new card gtx 470+.


Hauk said:
I shouldn't go here but man I'm curious.. what's up with the positive vibe on this one? It's nVidia. Isn't everyone supposed to be ripping it a new one?
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now that amd appears to be in the lead of the "video card deathbowl deathmatch 2010 edition", it is much easier to give nvidia the benefit of the doubt. In fact, if we see amd start to dominate over the next few years you will find many people begin bashing THEM and pulling for nvidia to "snap out of it". Everyone loves an underdog, plus in our case it just makes too much sense for the unbiased consumer to have healthy competition.
 
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bryanW1995

bryanW1995

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lopri said:
Could this be true? 256-bit GTX 460 harvested GF100?

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...shows-up-for-pre-order-at-e282ac1792bvat.aspx
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makes sense that it would be. Even as crazy as nvidia is with their naming schemes, they probably would have called the 768mb version a gtx 450 if they planned to keep the 1gb version around long-term.

wait, who am I kidding? It is marketing genius to piggyback the weaker card on the stronger one, esp if they're really two different arch's. Even amd's traditionally slow marketing dept is sharp enough to have 1gb/512mb versions of many of their low/mid offerings. Nvidia's marketing dept is nothing if not resourceful, we have to give them that.
 
Cookie Monster

Cookie Monster

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Coolaler managed to overclock the GTX460 up to 900/1800/4400MHz.

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Pretty Impressive.

And 1GB versions cant be used from left over GF100s. Where as the GF100 is grouped into 16 blocks with 32 CUDA cores per SM block, GF104 looks like its grouped into 8 blocks with 48 CUDA cores. Also there seems to be 8 TMUs per SM block instead of 4 (hence why texturing performance is pretty good for these parts). There could be more differences such as the number of SFU, changes in the warp scheduler etc.

Im curious to know if increased clocks of a full fledged GF104 can keep up with some of the lower end models based on GF100.
 
bryanW1995

bryanW1995

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let's see some actual reviews tomorrow before going crazy. when 5870 launched we saw the leaked benches and predicted significant gains over gtx 295, and we all know how that turned out. besides, a gtx 465 is great if you can unlock it to a full gtx 470.
 
Sp12

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Still waiting for reviews before I get excited, but I'm expecting performance between the 5830 and 5770, likely closer to 5830.
 
BD231

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Considering all the overpriced crap floating around right now it's time someone did us justice on a value part. Still, one has to wonder why you wouldn't just jump on a high end DX10 part if you're going to buy a more recent bottom shelf GPU.

This generation of cards has been entirely unexciting.
 
JSt0rm

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Lonyo said:
It's well priced, doesn't appear on the surface to have issues like high power consumption, and performs about where it should, possibly (since proper benchmarks aren't out yet).

People rip on NV when they have late, overpriced, power hungry cards etc.
If they have something reasonable coming out that looks like it will be competitive in most/all facets and put some pressure on prices/etc, then why would people rip NV a new one?
Contrary to popular belief, no one rags on products because they don't like the company, normally it's because they don't like the product.
Everyone was shit talking ATI when ATI was shit, and everyone has been shit talking NV when they have been poor.
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exactly. ati 2800wtf?
 
toyota

toyota

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SHAQ said:
The 800 core/1024mb OC versions should be very close to it.
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yep because that will be the same shader power of the stock gtx470 while also having more texture power. its very possible that a gtx460 with those specs could beat a 5850.
 
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