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GTX 285 or 4870X2

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ARMOROS

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Hello friends im new to the forum i am from greece so excuse any bad grammar

i want to buy a new pc with basic target to play GTA4... in full experience
and i got the delema of what video card to choose
GTX 285 or 4870X2

i have read so many posts about this and i am realy comfused

my other parts are
EVGA X58 Sli (s1366, DDR3, X58)
Intel Core I7-920
Corsair 6GB DDR3-1600
vista 64

ps..i am amateur and i need to know if i need sli or crossfire
(gta4 is the only game i like and wont play.. no other havy games- crysis...etc.
other use wit my pc is amateurish programming some visual studio and internet..)

is that pc good choise...

Any help and advise is needed and welcomed

thanks in advance
 
My friend i ll buy this monitor LG W2242S-SF TFT Monitor 22''
this monitor can only reach this resolution 1680 x 1050

i dont realy now in what resolution i have to play for sure less tahan 1680x1050

thanks
 
if you are going to be at 1680x1050 there is no reason to spend so much money on GPUs. Just get a Radeon 4870 1GB or GTX 260.
 
Go with the 4870 1gb, you should able to max the game out @ 1680X1050.

GTX 285 if money is not an issue. Also don't bother with CF or SLI for GTA 4...
 
Thank you again bros i will go for 4870x2
last delema on my mind is this diferences

EVGA GTX 285 Sapphire 4870X2 SVGA
Engine Clock 648 MHz 750 MHz

Memory Clock 2484 MHz 900 MHz

Memory Interface 512 bit 256 bit

RAMDAC 400 MHz Dual 400 MHz, 10 bit RAMDACs


are these diferencies importand ??

thank you again i apreciate ur help.
 
why are you getting a 4870 X2? You obviously have no idea what you're doing other than rejecting the advice of those who know better. RAMDACs aren't that important, but if you can't architecturally distinguish (from the most fundamental levels) a radeon from a gtx, you might want to do what we say and save your money.
 
For GTA4, a fast CPU is more important than the GPU, plus you'll want lots of system ram (2GB or 4GB if you can), plus that game loves GPU memory, so try to get a 1GB card. The 4870 1GB is probably a good choice, plus there are geforce cards with 800mb or so which should work as well.

Like I said, you would probably benefit from an i7 CPU or else a highly overclocked Phenom 2; that would be the best bet for you IMO, especially because at 1980x1050 you will be CPU limited most of the time. :beer:
 
Well my friend alyarb one thing is sure..that idont now what im doing.i am a bit lost

i do belive that i ll give money for nothing but just i want a nice pc

what discourages me is the clock diferncies

but as i read here and other sites a 4870 1gb should do the job.

thanks again


 
Originally posted by: SickBeast
For GTA4, a fast CPU is more important than the GPU, plus you'll want lots of system ram (2GB or 4GB if you can), plus that game loves GPU memory, so try to get a 1GB card. The 4870 1GB is probably a good choice, plus there are geforce cards with 800mb or so which should work as well.

Like I said, you would probably benefit from an i7 CPU or else a highly overclocked Phenom 2; that would be the best bet for you IMO, especially because at 1980x1050 you will be CPU limited most of the time. :beer:
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i dont understand my friend..you mean 1980x1050 is to much for i7-920?
 
they are both GPUs that support directx and opengl. except that they both contain vast arrays of hundreds of tiny FPUs, beyond that, the layouts are entirely dissimilar so you can't compare them by looking at the clock frequencies. You might think the geforce is slow because it "only" runs 100 Mhz "slower" than the Radeon, but the truth is that the geforce clocks its shaders independently (the shaders are the hundreds of tiny FPUs that do the work) and it just so happens that they have twice as many "megahertz" than the Radeon. In practice, the geforce is only a touch faster, it isn't twice as fast, and this is because of the many architectural differences between them. You can't determine much about the performance of these cards by looking at them in these simplest of terms.

1920x1080 is not "too much" for an i7. it's just a CPU-intensive game. you'll be fine.
 
If literally all you will be doing with the system is GTA IV, then I suggest actually a XBox 360 or a PS3. I have not heard good things about the PC version of GTA IV (with regards to performance), so might as well get what it was made to run on.

However, at the end of the day, it is your money, which by the way how much were you planning to spend? And do you have a ballpark idea of what kind of price difference there might be between tech prices here in the US and there in Greece? Unless of course you just moved here from Greece in which case never mind that question 🙂
 
Originally posted by: ARMOROS
Originally posted by: SickBeast
For GTA4, a fast CPU is more important than the GPU, plus you'll want lots of system ram (2GB or 4GB if you can), plus that game loves GPU memory, so try to get a 1GB card. The 4870 1GB is probably a good choice, plus there are geforce cards with 800mb or so which should work as well.

Like I said, you would probably benefit from an i7 CPU or else a highly overclocked Phenom 2; that would be the best bet for you IMO, especially because at 1980x1050 you will be CPU limited most of the time. :beer:
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i dont understand my friend..you mean 1980x1050 is to much for i7-920?
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No, I'm saying that at that resolution, (1680x1050) you need a fast CPU more than you need a fast GPU. GTA4 needs a really fast quad core and lots of memory if you want it to run well with high detail settings.

So long as you get a video card with at least 1gb of memory you will be fine. The 4890 is a great deal right now at Ewiz for $184.
 
Originally posted by: lopri
Between the two, I'd get the GTX 285 without a second thought.
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Yeah I agree.

The 4890 is a better card considering price though.

I think the 285 will do some really cool things with CUDA, but we're not there yet unfortunately.
 
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