GTX-1070/G-sync v. R9 390/Freesync

[Winston Marmaduke III]

Yeah...to my understanding though, the syncing isn't really going to kick in, or be noticeable or helpful until I start getting lower frame rates. So, having the Gsync kick in when this card gets a bit old and outdated may be a good thing. I'm the type of person who doesn't really mess with a build once I finish it. I just use what I got until upgrading means replacing 80% of the components in there so starting from scratch is usually the way I go anyway.

I'm actually upgrading from a Athlon XII Propus quad core and GTX-660.

 

[Winston Marmaduke III]

"Why is your budget so high? You should be able to get an amazing system for $1500."

A 100 dollar wifi adapter and 160 dollar RGB cherry blue KB and a 1K Gold rated PSU are pretty big chunk of that 2700. All 3 of which I have no problem shelling out the $$$ for, especially the keyboard.

 

[Bacon1]

"Why is your budget so high? You should be able to get an amazing system for $1500."

A 100 dollar wifi adapter and 160 dollar RGB cherry blue KB and a 1K Gold rated PSU are pretty big chunk of that 2700. All 3 of which I have no problem shelling out the $$$ for, especially the keyboard.

Ok, I mean if you don't care about money then yeah buy a 1070 and GSync monitor.

You can save half of the money and upgrade more often which will give you a better overall experience if you want, but if you don't then might as well upgrade to a 1080.

I'd also reconsider using wifi gaming for competitive play, which it seems like you are aiming for.

 

[Arachnotronic]

"Why is your budget so high? You should be able to get an amazing system for $1500."

A 100 dollar wifi adapter and 160 dollar RGB cherry blue KB and a 1K Gold rated PSU are pretty big chunk of that 2700. All 3 of which I have no problem shelling out the $$$ for, especially the keyboard.

Yeah if you're ok spending on those niceties, definitely don't cheap out on the monitor. Nice Gsync monitor is a must IMO

 

[Arachnotronic]

Ok, I mean if you don't care about money then yeah buy a 1070 and GSync monitor.

You can save half of the money and upgrade more often which will give you a better overall experience if you want, but if you don't then might as well upgrade to a 1080.

I'd also reconsider using wifi gaming for competitive play, which it seems like you are aiming for.

I use WiFi for competitive gaming and it works fantastically.

 

[Winston Marmaduke III]

I don't competitive game, but I do house my media on my desktop and stream to set top boxes all over the apartment so the strong signal strength and range on that Asus PCE-068 adapter should be worth it to me. Of course if wired was an option I'd take that instead, but it's not. I rent and can't really start drilling the walls to run cable.

As far as the keyboard, if it wasn't for me actually needing the Windows key more and more as time goes on, I'd still be happy with my IBM Model M I bought off ebay in like 2003.

Even if my wife wasn't taking my old PC as she's moving out, there's not much in there I can re-use aside from the HDDs I've stacked. Oh well :/

 

[Ferzerp]

Honestly, as a standards body, VESA needs some teeth.

Something along the lines of, to maintain membership, certification, whatever, features that duplicate or improve upon standards based features can only be implemented in addition to, as opposed to exclusive of the standard feature.

 

[NomanA]

Honestly, as a standards body, VESA needs some teeth.

Something along the lines of, to maintain membership, certification, whatever, features that duplicate or improve upon standards based features can only be implemented in addition to, as opposed to exclusive of the standard feature.

No industry standards body can act in that manner. Proprietary solutions live and die purely due to the market conditions. As long as nVidia find it in their business interests, they will continue to ignore adaptive-sync.

Display makers for the large part have made their choice. The biggest names such as LG and Samsung are fully on board with VESA adaptive sync. This is a battle nVidia can't win, as far as market penetration is concerned. Adaptive sync monitors currently (and will always) have much larger share of the market, and eventually nVidia will come around to that. It'd be huge for all the nVidia users who are currently using adaptive sync displays.

 

[YBS1]

If you're wanting a higher performing setup, the 1070 is a no brainer over the 390. I don't like saying that, but that's where we stand at the moment. AMD is very competitive with the 480, but in the $300+ bracket the only choice is nVidia ATM. AMD needs to drop the Fury X and Nano down into an "in between" bracket, say $325-345, I think they would get considerable sales at the price point while we await Vega. I know I would have went Fury X or Nano at that pricing, at $375+ the 1070 makes more sense. I also don't really consider G-Sync/Freesync to be that much of a "lock-in". It becomes more relevant the lower your FPS is, if your playing in or about the high end of the scale it's not as big a deal. Opinions on this will of course vary, but tearing doesn't really bother me, and I almost never go low enough to see the benefits on the juddering side of the equation. My G-Sync monitor isn't locking me into crap, I'm awaiting Vega and expect to switch. I'll be perfectly happy with with the monitor's 144Hz capability and no G-Sync while playing on Crossfired Vegas. Plus there is always better stuff on the horizon, I expect I'll go with a Freesync monitor when one arrives that is 34", curved 21:9, 1440p, and a minimum of 120Hz.

 

[Bacon1]

AMD needs to drop the Fury X and Nano down into an "in between" bracket, say $325-345

Fury Nitro has been under $310 for a long time now on both Amazon and Newegg. People even got it for $275 off newegg when they had a promo code going. Would be nice to see the other cards follow suit. Think XFX Fury X was going for $350ish the other week

 

[YBS1]

Fury Nitro has been under $310 for a long time now on both Amazon and Newegg. People even got it for $275 off newegg when they had a promo code going. Would be nice to see the other cards follow suit. Think XFX Fury X was going for $350ish the other week

Yeah, I saw it (Fury X) as low as $375 before I bought the 480, $350 might have gotten me to bite. Even at 350 though that would put it at ~$460 with a block, hard to make a case for it versus the 1070 at that price. I wanted to stay away from the 1070 just on principal though, but I may have caved had I found the Gigabyte GTX 1070 Mini ITX OC available for sale back then.

 

[ConsoleLover]

Best option for you is to go for the GTX 1070 and a normal 144mhz monitor. G-sync monitors are overpriced(usually $200 to $300 more), that is essentially money that you can buy a whole new upper range graphic card. G-sync is almost never worth it, unless you are dirty rich (250k+ annual salary) and are willing to spend 5k+ on a setup that is going to be everything of the best.

So get the 1070, and get a normal 144hz monitor.

 

[guachi]

[W]hichever route you go I highly recommend you get the adaptive sync compatible monitor. Never has 42-FPS been so acceptable! Haha. Hell, even in the mid-30s FPS it's still smooth.

This is basically why I didn't feel I was missing out on as much as I might have been when I got a 480 as my recent upgrade card combined with a new Freesync monitor that was much cheaper than a Gsync monitor. None of the games I play really require incredibly high fps but smooth is something I'll definitely go for any day.

 

[AtenRa]

I would go with the best FreeSync Monitor and RX 470 now and wait for Vega.

 

[Gikaseixas]

Best option for you is to go for the GTX 1070 and a normal 144mhz monitor. G-sync monitors are overpriced(usually $200 to $300 more), that is essentially money that you can buy a whole new upper range graphic card.

That's what i would do. You wouldn't be vendor locked too.

 

[Thinker_145]

lol at people recommending the fury cards in this thread. I guess fanboyism has no limits. Buying a 4GB card in 2016 with a big budget? LMAO!

Sent from my HTC One M9

 

[Maverick177]

lol at people recommending the fury cards in this thread. I guess fanboyism has no limits. Buying a 4GB card in 2016 with a big budget? LMAO!

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A better option would be a 470/480 and the best Freesync monitor .

I've used the MG279Q for over a year now and it's fantastic!

 

[Thinker_145]

A better option would be a 470/480 and the best Freesync monitor .

I've used the MG279Q for over a year now and it's fantastic!

Not the 470 lol.

Anyways the TC has no experience with A-Sync so it's not so important for him to make such a large GPU compromise. I believe high refresh rate high fps non A-Sync gaming is superior to low FPS A-Sync gaming.

That is indeed a very nice monitor you got there.

Sent from my HTC One M9

 

[Arachnotronic]

lol at people recommending the fury cards in this thread. I guess fanboyism has no limits. Buying a 4GB card in 2016 with a big budget? LMAO!

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With the OP's budget, I would dismiss the recommendations for any type of AMD GPU. Right now AMD has competitive products with the RX 480 and below, but it has nothing that's GTX 1070/GTX 1080/Titan X class right now. On the OP's budget, GTX 1070 and up is the way to go.

Also, strange to see people who are telling the OP to buy a lower end RX 470 and then wait for Vega. Why buy twice? Pascal is here, a known quantity, and a good product. Buy a high-end Pascal and be set for a couple of years. You get to enjoy the high performance now while everyone else is playing the waiting game.

 

[Maverick177]

Not the 470 lol.

Anyways the TC has no experience with A-Sync so it's not so important for him to make such a large GPU compromise. I believe high refresh rate high fps non A-Sync gaming is superior to low FPS A-Sync gaming.

That is indeed a very nice monitor you got there.

Sent from my HTC One M9

You obviously haven't used the MG279Q .

With the OP's budget, I would dismiss the recommendations for any type of AMD GPU. Right now AMD has competitive products with the RX 480 and below, but it has nothing that's GTX 1070/GTX 1080/Titan X class right now. On the OP's budget, GTX 1070 and up is the way to go.

Also, strange to see people who are telling the OP to buy a lower end RX 470 and then wait for Vega. Why buy twice? Pascal is here, a known quantity, and a good product. Buy a high-end Pascal and be set for a couple of years. You get to enjoy the high performance now while everyone else is playing the waiting game.

If OP goes with Pascal, he's stuck with a HD monitor.

If OP goes with a 480, he'd be able to buy a much better monitor and have the option to upgrade GPU without upgrading the monitor.

Also, I find this particularly funny:

"You a high-end Pascal and be set for a couple of years".

Yeah no.

 

[Bacon1]

Why buy twice? Pascal is here, a known quantity, and a good product. Buy a high-end Pascal and be set for a couple of years.

But from what I've heard, Volta will be out next year and destroy Vega which in turn would mean it would destroy any Pascal cards out now, so why buy an obsolete Pascal card when Volta will be so much better next year?


Trolling is not allowed
And as to how its a troll post, you can;t KNOW that Volta WILL be better until its out.

Markfw900

 

[Arachnotronic]

nevermind.

 

[bystander36]

But from what I've heard, Volta will be out next year and destroy Vega which in turn would mean it would destroy any Pascal cards out now, so why buy an obsolete Pascal card when Volta will be so much better next year?

There is always a better video card around the corner. Unless it is within a month or 2, you can just ignore it, and understand that in 6-12 months, your video card will be overthrown.

 

[Phynaz]

I would go with the best FreeSync Monitor and RX 470 now and wait for Vega.

What a horrible idea. Buy low end AMD to wait to see how Vega turns out, or buy high end Nvidia now, have no concerns and be happy with high performance for the next nine months while Vega is incubating.

You're telling him to go for the repeat of the "wait for Polaris" advice that screwed a bunch of people.

 

[Arachnotronic]

What a horrible idea. Buy low end AMD to wait to see how Vega turns out, or buy high end Nvidia now, have no concerns and be happy with high performance for the next nine months while Vega is incubating.

You're telling him to go for the repeat of the "wait for Polaris" advice that screwed a bunch of people.

I still get a chuckle from some of the predictions that some people made about Polaris. 100W 980 Ti performance for $200 was my favorite.