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GT4: Nurburgring in under 5 mins

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Jeff7181

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Aug 21, 2002
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Wadded Beef
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: logic1485
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: tyim
Originally posted by: malak
Looks like a formula car, but is that speedometer in MPH? 300+ is pretty fast and he's got good brakes at the rate he decelerates.

Did i see 360?!?!
I was wondering the same thing, looked like 360 to me. However, I must say that the only thing that impressed was his knowledge of the 13-mile track. Otherwise, if you watch his throttle/brake meters, he has no throttle control at all. Now, I'm not sure if proper throttle control would net him a faster time, but I'd like to think so :). Also, he takes almost all curves at full throttle, so I'm sure I could do similar in the same car. The only thing that looked hard to do was to spin out of the curves.

That's what I was looking at as well, and I figured, he could prolly pull a 4:30 on the track if he got the speeds right, and was touching the corners of the track while cornering. Basically, he's using his engine to brake, so anyone that asked whether he could do that in real life: he would probably blow the engine of any car that he is given. Also, I did notice that he had some wheelspin in some of the corners, so if he would've got the traction right, then he would have also got a faster time.

Engine braking doesn't "blow your engine."

it will if you're constantly engine braking high in the red zone

No, it won't. What the hell is the red zone? An engine is designed to make power. When you aren't making power, it doesn't see anywhere near the stress levels.

Do you people even know what engine braking is?

Yeah man... it brakes the engine... hence engine braking... ya know, like pretty soon it's gonna brake into pieces. lol
 

RiDE

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Jul 8, 2004
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Originally posted by: James3shin
pfft thats in a f1 car, put him in the m3 gtr and see what he gets

I would like to see you in the M3 GTR and see what you get since you seem to be playing down this guy without proving that you can do better, only typing words and sentences out in a forum.
 

James3shin

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Apr 5, 2004
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willl do once i get my f1 or m3 gtr in the game, still golding the a license right now.
 

dak125

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I got 6:31 in an LM Camaro, third time I played the track. Can't wait for that Logitech wheel/pedal set to get here, it's on then :).
 

Baked

Lifer
Dec 28, 2004
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I'd like to see him do the special condition super narrow euro street courses in that F1.
 

BW86

Lifer
Jul 20, 2004
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wow, I want to play this game so bad!
When i try and play it starts to load and then that swirly thing turms red and it freezes :( anybody else get this?
 

buzzsaw13

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Apr 30, 2004
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Originally posted by: BW86
wow, I want to play this game so bad!
When i try and play it starts to load and then that swirly thing turms red and it freezes :( anybody else get this?

Exchange it for a new one if its defective
 

sniperruff

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Apr 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
I'd love to put him in a real car on the real ring and see how fast he can do it!

he's oversteer within 3 corners and crash into a wall. come on he had TCS on... most people who play GT4 for a bit can do that with a day or two of practice.

It's EASIER with TCS off in my opinion.

I don't have an F1 in GT4 yet, but in GT3, yeah, that kind of stuff was the norm. I had some UNGODLY times on Cote de Azur using a damned CONTROLLER. Nurburgring is actually a fairly straight course, most of it's... 170+ "turns" are wide, sweeping ones. It just LOOKS like a hard track because it's narrow, it's fast, it's long, and the minimap makes all the corners look HUGELY exaggerated. I'm working on memorizing it myself, I'm down to about 8 minutes in the S7 (down from 16 my first runthrough). My second runthrough was the pacecar run on the IA test, I got gold, which is just a hair over 9 if I recall, and that car sucked. Of course, I was also following the pace's perfect racing line.

Oh, and I WANT THAT PACE CAR! Too bad you have to wait for an extreme event to win it.

TCS on = no wheel spin at all = no oversteer = no spinout = he can accelerate as hard as he wants to without worrying about spinning out = no skill

really, only CPU cars have TCS on. i haven't played that much GT4 yet but try turning TCS OFF on GT3, then use the D2 mercedes CLK race car )stage 3 NA tune up).
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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In Project Gotham Racing 2 I ran it in the Corvette Z06 and finished it in about 7:42. I don't have any of the track memorized though.

But yeah... I noticed that about him having TCS on... he really didn't even need that elaborate setup... since he was basically either accelerating 100% or braking 100% he could have used buttons on a controller instead of pedals.
 

Wadded Beef

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Dec 15, 2004
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Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Wadded Beef
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: logic1485
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: tyim
Originally posted by: malak
Looks like a formula car, but is that speedometer in MPH? 300+ is pretty fast and he's got good brakes at the rate he decelerates.

Did i see 360?!?!
I was wondering the same thing, looked like 360 to me. However, I must say that the only thing that impressed was his knowledge of the 13-mile track. Otherwise, if you watch his throttle/brake meters, he has no throttle control at all. Now, I'm not sure if proper throttle control would net him a faster time, but I'd like to think so :). Also, he takes almost all curves at full throttle, so I'm sure I could do similar in the same car. The only thing that looked hard to do was to spin out of the curves.

That's what I was looking at as well, and I figured, he could prolly pull a 4:30 on the track if he got the speeds right, and was touching the corners of the track while cornering. Basically, he's using his engine to brake, so anyone that asked whether he could do that in real life: he would probably blow the engine of any car that he is given. Also, I did notice that he had some wheelspin in some of the corners, so if he would've got the traction right, then he would have also got a faster time.

Engine braking doesn't "blow your engine."

it will if you're constantly engine braking high in the red zone

No, it won't. What the hell is the red zone? An engine is designed to make power. When you aren't making power, it doesn't see anywhere near the stress levels.



i'd like to borrow your car and downshift into 1st gear while going 100 on the freeway, sure it'll make the engine spin @ 25k rpm, but since it's not making power it'll be just fine. right?
 

boyRacer

Lifer
Oct 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Wadded Beef
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Wadded Beef
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: logic1485
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: tyim
Originally posted by: malak
Looks like a formula car, but is that speedometer in MPH? 300+ is pretty fast and he's got good brakes at the rate he decelerates.

Did i see 360?!?!
I was wondering the same thing, looked like 360 to me. However, I must say that the only thing that impressed was his knowledge of the 13-mile track. Otherwise, if you watch his throttle/brake meters, he has no throttle control at all. Now, I'm not sure if proper throttle control would net him a faster time, but I'd like to think so :). Also, he takes almost all curves at full throttle, so I'm sure I could do similar in the same car. The only thing that looked hard to do was to spin out of the curves.

That's what I was looking at as well, and I figured, he could prolly pull a 4:30 on the track if he got the speeds right, and was touching the corners of the track while cornering. Basically, he's using his engine to brake, so anyone that asked whether he could do that in real life: he would probably blow the engine of any car that he is given. Also, I did notice that he had some wheelspin in some of the corners, so if he would've got the traction right, then he would have also got a faster time.

Engine braking doesn't "blow your engine."

it will if you're constantly engine braking high in the red zone

No, it won't. What the hell is the red zone? An engine is designed to make power. When you aren't making power, it doesn't see anywhere near the stress levels.



i'd like to borrow your car and downshift into 1st gear while going 100 on the freeway, sure it'll make the engine spin @ 25k rpm, but since it's not making power it'll be just fine. right?

that's not exactly engine braking anymore is it? :p

engine braking will not blow your engine... overreving will blow your engine.

If you ever watch Formula One during testing, you'll hear the drivers on the radio ask where he would want more or less engine braking and the engineers will change maps accordingly.
 

MikeMike

Lifer
Feb 6, 2000
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Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: Wadded Beef
Originally posted by: Jeff7181
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Wadded Beef
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: logic1485
Originally posted by: blurredvision
Originally posted by: tyim
Originally posted by: malak
Looks like a formula car, but is that speedometer in MPH? 300+ is pretty fast and he's got good brakes at the rate he decelerates.

Did i see 360?!?!
I was wondering the same thing, looked like 360 to me. However, I must say that the only thing that impressed was his knowledge of the 13-mile track. Otherwise, if you watch his throttle/brake meters, he has no throttle control at all. Now, I'm not sure if proper throttle control would net him a faster time, but I'd like to think so :). Also, he takes almost all curves at full throttle, so I'm sure I could do similar in the same car. The only thing that looked hard to do was to spin out of the curves.

That's what I was looking at as well, and I figured, he could prolly pull a 4:30 on the track if he got the speeds right, and was touching the corners of the track while cornering. Basically, he's using his engine to brake, so anyone that asked whether he could do that in real life: he would probably blow the engine of any car that he is given. Also, I did notice that he had some wheelspin in some of the corners, so if he would've got the traction right, then he would have also got a faster time.

Engine braking doesn't "blow your engine."

it will if you're constantly engine braking high in the red zone

No, it won't. What the hell is the red zone? An engine is designed to make power. When you aren't making power, it doesn't see anywhere near the stress levels.



i'd like to borrow your car and downshift into 1st gear while going 100 on the freeway, sure it'll make the engine spin @ 25k rpm, but since it's not making power it'll be just fine. right?

that's not exactly engine braking anymore is it? :p

engine braking will not blow your engine... overreving will blow your engine.

If you ever watch Formula One during testing, you'll hear the drivers on the radio ask where he would want more or less engine braking and the engineers will change maps accordingly.

thats deffinately not engine braking, thats engine breaking.

MIKE
 

Jeff7181

Lifer
Aug 21, 2002
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Who fvcked up the quote? Damn people... it does the quoting for you! Quit messing with it! :D

i'd like to borrow your car and downshift into 1st gear while going 100 on the freeway, sure it'll make the engine spin
@ 25k rpm, but since it's not making power it'll be just fine. right?

By the way... you're a complete moron.
 

TomKazansky

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EF9

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I would be impressed if he was using a regular ps2 controller. Im pretty sure he's using an F1 racing car. There's no way a fully modified car would take those turns at those speeds and it shifts like a F1.
 

peter1975

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Mar 16, 2005
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Hi there!
I am German and I live two hours from the nurburgring. I did the Nordschleife (old racetrack Nurburgring) a few times myself in my BMW 323ci. It is hard to do it in less than 10 minutes, because I don`t want to risk my life. I must say that Polyphony did an excelent job on GT4. It is absolutely realistic.

If you eyer come to Germany you can also use "the fastest Taxi in the world" - the Ringtaxi. It is sponsored by BMW. They are using BMW M5s. The "Taxi-Drivers" are professional racedrivers. If you are lucky you can go with H-J. Stuck. It is 150 Euro for one Round (max. three Passengers). They do the lap in a little over 8 min. It is quite scary! Most people in the back of the car tend to feel sick.

I believe that a new F1 car could do the Nordschleife in less than 5 min. The Nordschleife now (lke in GT4) is 20.8 km.

The M3GTR (real worl video) did the whole Nurburgring (Nordschleife and new F1-racetrack) wich is like 25 km.

Dereck Bell did the old racetrack on his record, wich was also a little different and 22.8 km long.