GT240 - nvidia's flagship for this holiday season

[cusideabelincoln]

The GTS250 moving up to the $200 mark would be a travesty. Same could be said if the HD4850 ever did that.

The HD4830 has probably seen it's last days, but is ATI still going to make the HD4770?

 

[edplayer]

I doubt the GTS250 would move up to $200. Checking over at newegg right now I see them from $95(AR) to $165. The $165 one is an outlier from ECS. There are a bunch of cheapo brands around $110 and most are from $125 to $150. Lots of them have rebates. I could see them going up $10~20 if supplies are constrained but not up to $200.

I doubt the 4770 will remain in volume production. It should be replace by the "Redwood" cores. Checking 57X0 series availability they are all in stock apart from MSI and an Asus 5770 model (again at newegg). Those are above msrp also with the 5750 having the largest premium (percentage over msrp).

 

[LOUISSSSS]

You guys do (I hope) understand that this GT 240 is simply a refresh of the 8800GS/9600GSO with GDDR5 bolted on (if you pick the right model)?

Consider:
8800GS/9600GSO (original version)
96 Stream Processors
550MHz core/1340MHz shader/800MHz DDR3
192-bit DDR3 (38.4 GB/s bandwidth)

GT 240
96 Stream Processors
550MHz core/1340MHz shader/900MHz GDDR5 or 800MHz DDR3
128-bit GDDR5 (57.6 GB/s bandwidth) or DDR3 (25.6 GB/s bandwidth)

Short answer: these cards were worth it at $38AR last year, not so much at $100+ this year. And stay far, far away from those DDR3 models - their balls have been completely removed.

well said, NVIDIA STOP BEING IDIOTS AND REBADGING CARDS!!! this is so retarded, MAKE SOME NEW CARDS.

 

[edplayer]

Short answer: these cards were worth it at $38AR last year, not so much at $100+ this year. And stay far, far away from those DDR3 models - their balls have been completely removed.

but I thought they were the best bang for the buck cards right now?

 

[Cookie Monster]

well said, NVIDIA STOP BEING IDIOTS AND REBADGING CARDS!!! this is so retarded, MAKE SOME NEW CARDS.

These arent rebadged. Its based on a GT215 core that supports DX10.1, a bunch of other features (inherits some of the GPGPU capabilities of the GT200) and finally includes MPEG-4 ASP Decoding & LPCM Audio. New support for GDDR5 and consumes little power.

If you still think this is a rebadge, than I dont know what else to say except maybe you have some sort of an agenda or is emotionally attached to video card manufacturers.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

while its not exactly a rebadge, it is based off of old tech but just made to be more efficient and support DX10.1 of all things...it might be a little more excusable if it was DX11, but even then it would likely be too slow for DX11 games so even that wouldn't matter

to top it off, its a budget to low mid range performer at best (if you get the GDDR5 model)

If they were going to take old technology and make a more efficient/updated rebadge, it would have been better (in our eyes at least) to go with a full out 128SP G92 or GT200. Give us a DX10.1, 40nm GTS250 or GTX260.

 

[Shmee]

while its not exactly a rebadge, it is based off of old tech but just made to be more efficient and support DX10.1 of all things...it might be a little more excusable if it was DX11, but even then it would likely be too slow for DX11 games so even that wouldn't matter

to top it off, its a budget to low mid range performer at best (if you get the GDDR5 model)

If they were going to take old technology and make a more efficient/updated rebadge, it would have been better (in our eyes at least) to go with a full out 128SP G92 or GT200. Give us a DX10.1, 40nm GTS250 or GTX260.

agreed. I would love to see more focus on the GT200 series cards, like a die shrinked 260 for a lower price. Might actually be able to afford SLI then.

 

[Cookie Monster]

while its not exactly a rebadge, it is based off of old tech but just made to be more efficient and support DX10.1 of all things...it might be a little more excusable if it was DX11, but even then it would likely be too slow for DX11 games so even that wouldn't matter

to top it off, its a budget to low mid range performer at best (if you get the GDDR5 model)

If they were going to take old technology and make a more efficient/updated rebadge, it would have been better (in our eyes at least) to go with a full out 128SP G92 or GT200. Give us a DX10.1, 40nm GTS250 or GTX260.

One of the roadmaps had a GT21x replacing the GTX260. Supposedly, the specs of this replacement GPU would be something along the lines of 40nm, 216SP and DX10.1 just til mid range Fermi derivatives hit the shelves.

 

[edplayer]

while its not exactly a rebadge, it is based off of old tech but just made to be more efficient and support DX10.1 of all things...it might be a little more excusable if it was DX11, but even then it would likely be too slow for DX11 games so even that wouldn't matter

The card doesn't need any excuses. You buy it or you don't

I think it seems like a fine card. Only thing wrong is the pricing. $70~80 seems fair. Probably will be in that range really quick

$50 and less and its a hot deal.

 

[WildW]

I was thinking something similar recently, that lots of cards seem to be disappearing and not much is available to replace them. The one thing that does seem to be easily available is the HD5750 and 5770. They're a bit pricey compared with the 4850/70s they're replacing, but not what you'd call an expensive card.

 

[BFG10K]

For the same price as the 4770 you can get a GTS250 which is 20% faster then the 4770. For ~$30 less then the GT240 you can get a 9600GT which is ~10% faster then the GT240.

Exactly – thanks for proving my point even further. The GT240 is absolutely woeful from a price/performance standpoint.

 

[BFG10K]

I repeat: I agree the GT220 and GT240 are too expensive for their performance. But considering my own variables I'll reluctantly accept paying more for an NVidia product.

What case are you using that won’t fit a GTS250, but will fit a GT240?

 

[ther00kie16]

What's with GT240 coming in at $100? Isn't that what GTS250 launched at? I remember there being a $100 - $40 rebate = $60 deal for GTS250 the first week it launched. Was a good price but wasn't a performance/$ shake-up like so many ati launches are considering 9800gt was constantly going for $60-$70 after rebate.

 

[dguy6789]

Without a doubt the best value of the season.

 

[Keysplayr]

What's with GT240 coming in at $100? Isn't that what GTS250 launched at? I remember there being a $100 - $40 rebate = $60 deal for GTS250 the first week it launched. Was a good price but wasn't a performance/$ shake-up like so many ati launches are considering 9800gt was constantly going for $60-$70 after rebate.

GTS250 512 launched at 129.00 MSRP
GTS250 1GB launched at 149.00 MSRP

 

[ther00kie16]

GTS250 512 launched at 129.00 MSRP
GTS250 1GB launched at 149.00 MSRP

Ok, but there were deals for it for well under $100 for about the first month. I don't see any for the 240 currently. If nVidia can't make money with true performance parts, I guess they have to make some with mainstream cards.

 

[BernardP]

What case are you using that won’t fit a GTS250, but will fit a GT240?

As shown in my sig, it's an Antec 1650. The problem is not the case itself, but the fact that the 3 hard drives form a solid wall in front of the PCI-E slot of my m-ATX mobo. I have at most 20 cm lenght available for the videocard. There is no empty bay to move one of the HD's.

 

[MrK6]

Wow, these cards don't have any presence in the market at all. 9600GT performance for more money? What were they thinking? There's plenty of great solutions in the <$120 segments that it's extremely competitive, and these cards don't offer nearly enough to compete.

 

[v8envy]

As shown in my sig, it's an Antec 1650. The problem is not the case itself, but the fact that the 3 hard drives form a solid wall in front of the PCI-E slot of my m-ATX mobo. I have at most 20 cm lenght available for the videocard. There is no empty bay to move one of the HD's.

I have that very same black SLK 1650. I should say, my wife does. Yes, the hard drive cage clearance can be a bit anoying, but mine did fit an 8800GT (aka 9800GT) in front of a hard drive with zero problems. The "low power" editions of the 9800GT which take no additional power plug look to be even smaller -- about the size of a 7600.

 

[Hyperlite]

Without a doubt the best value of the season.

lol did you read the thread? It's a terrible value!

 

[cusideabelincoln]

lol did you read the thread? It's a terrible value!

He is being very sarcastic.

 

[v8envy]

They're such a great value that you can buy TWO and SLI them for midrange video card performance! Oh wait, unlike the slightly worse performing and cheaper 9600s they don't support SLI...

NV's market analysis department should stop passing the crack pipe around. Soon, please.

 

[VirtualLarry]

They're such a great value that you can buy TWO and SLI them for midrange video card performance! Oh wait, unlike the slightly worse performing and cheaper 9600s they don't support SLI...

NV's market analysis department should stop passing the crack pipe around. Soon, please.

They don't support SLI? What is NV thinking? I thought they wanted everyone to SLI, SLI, SLI!!!

 

[yh125d]

No SLI? My 3 year old 7600GT even supported SLI...




Probably for the best though, cause inevitably some idiot would be dumb enough to buy TWO some day

 

[Cookie Monster]

You guys are also forgetting that nVIDIA is replacing the G98/G96/G94 cores with GT218/GT216/GT215 cores respectively. The old cards aren't going to be around for much longer.

Just like how AMD is going to replace the HD48xx series because atm HD5770 performs worse than a HD4890 and other HD4870 cards can be had for less money. But they are going to get EOLed real soon.