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[TulipGTX]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
While a gaming laptop with 2 CPUs sounds fun isn't that completely impractical? While the SB chip may produce less heat over the wider surface area, wouldn't the addition of a second cpu more than make up for that? In a desktop with proper ventilation it isn't a problem but laptops are awfully cramped, this one I'm on right now for instance is awfully hot at the base after a while, I wouldn't want to add to that heat.

This is only for 20"+ laptops..

There is a similar smaller M/B with similar specs but a single CPU and lower TDP that is for 15-19"

 

[krnmastersgt]

Yeesh, the battery has to run power for a 20"+ screen as well as a gpu (or two most likely) and 2 cpus, think of the monstrous heat. Forget cookies I'm putting a turkey underneath that thing. You'll likely get about 30 minutes to an hour at best with those components, even as a desktop replacement what are they planning on doing to dissipate the heat?

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: TulipGTX

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
That ain't feasible John, the heat that nVidia chipset boards is huge compared to what Intel makes, and Intel based skulltrail off of server grade components. I highly doubt that XFX has a dual socket board in the works, and if they did by the time they released it Nehalem would be out and socket 775 would be worthless. The heat that this board would make is immense, you'd need a lot of fans to keep it from overheating.

It is a 780i chipset with a different southbridge there is an embedded trace path from cpu A to cpu B and the south bridge uses S.O.D. technology makeing it a single massive chip with a thermal envelope under 50 W its not very hot. This is not for Nehalem at all its for gameing laptops.

The pci is laid down on the board but another removable pci slot is fixed on the laid pci slot and a gt200 is stuck on the removable slot.

hmmm....from that post...it seems your BF is using your account...or you are your BF.

 

[TulipGTX]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
While a gaming laptop with 2 CPUs sounds fun isn't that completely impractical? While the SB chip may produce less heat over the wider surface area, wouldn't the addition of a second cpu more than make up for that? In a desktop with proper ventilation it isn't a problem but laptops are awfully cramped, this one I'm on right now for instance is awfully hot at the base after a while, I wouldn't want to add to that heat.

The two processers are physically apart the m/b is around 18" long...Each Cpu has a fan and pipe system similar to the mac book pro has twin fan system but that is different the SB chip uses two heat pipes to connect to the fan system 0 this also goes for the NB chip that uses 2 heat pipes or fan system 1. All are made with copper.

 

[TulipGTX]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: TulipGTX

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
That ain't feasible John, the heat that nVidia chipset boards is huge compared to what Intel makes, and Intel based skulltrail off of server grade components. I highly doubt that XFX has a dual socket board in the works, and if they did by the time they released it Nehalem would be out and socket 775 would be worthless. The heat that this board would make is immense, you'd need a lot of fans to keep it from overheating.

It is a 780i chipset with a different southbridge there is an embedded trace path from cpu A to cpu B and the south bridge uses S.O.D. technology makeing it a single massive chip with a thermal envelope under 50 W its not very hot. This is not for Nehalem at all its for gameing laptops.

The pci is laid down on the board but another removable pci slot is fixed on the laid pci slot and a gt200 is stuck on the removable slot.

hmmm....from that post...it seems your BF is using your account...or you are your BF.

Except the pci is laid down part all other is from his mouth

 

[krnmastersgt]

Rofl @ thilan
As for what you said Tulip, with the cramped space of a laptop there's going to be a lot of heat, while the cpus may have heatpipes the heat that is generated is going to be vented out the back correct? While you may be keeping the cpus/gpus/internals of all sorts at operational temps the room that it's being used in would heat up very quickly, and the ambient temps might actually be affect by that much heat is such a small space. As for the inside, the laptops gonna look like swiss cheese to get proper ventilation for every component.

 

[TulipGTX]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Rofl @ thilan
As for what you said Tulip, with the cramped space of a laptop there's going to be a lot of heat, while the cpus may have heatpipes the heat that is generated is going to be vented out the back correct? While you may be keeping the cpus/gpus/internals of all sorts at operational temps the room that it's being used in would heat up very quickly, and the ambient temps might actually be affect by that much heat is such a small space. As for the inside, the laptops gonna look like swiss cheese to get proper ventilation for every component.

Basically there are 2 out ducts in the back and the screen will not come on top as with mac book pro... There will be a huge IN duct below the joint of lcd and the lower laptop body (As with the old mac book clamshells grills)

BTW i never owned anything but apple laptops so sorry that he used that when i asked to elaborate.

The max heat will be at the back end where the two copper heat sinks will be the max temp right now is 80-83 deg. which will come down in some time.

HP and DELL have asked for details on this...

 

[krnmastersgt]

Yeah that intake duct is gonna have to be massive, not to mention this thing is going to be loud with all the funs and the air moving, I still think the heat this thing is going to output is too much, while the internals may be safe I wouldn't want to be behind this thing on a hot day, or any day for that matter. Btw, you say 80-83F is the max for this system, whats the ambient temp?

 

[krnmastersgt]

And also note that 2 CPUs should have no visible effect on games, running 2 dual cores should perform roughly the same as 1 quad core, and only a few select games can even run using multiple cores so I don't see the potential of this as a gaming laptop.

 

[TulipGTX]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Yeah that intake duct is gonna have to be massive, not to mention this thing is going to be loud with all the funs and the air moving, I still think the heat this thing is going to output is too much, while the internals may be safe I wouldn't want to be behind this thing on a hot day, or any day for that matter. Btw, you say 80-83F is the max for this system, whats the ambient temp?

And also note that 2 CPUs should have no visible effect on games, running 2 dual cores should perform roughly the same as 1 quad core, and only a few select games can even run using multiple cores so I don't see the potential of this as a gaming laptop.

Not 80-83F but 80-83C cooler master is makeing the copper pipe system and heat will come down a lot. He does not know what ambient temp it will be but will depend on the room temp.

This is a performance laptop it scales better than a skul trail per watt and its sli can achive greater performance than crossfire in any case. It is a mobile powerhouse for media apps

 

[krnmastersgt]

Ouch, 80-83C is really hot, and thats the temps within the laptop? Also ambient = the air around the laptop, the room temperature. Geez but 80-83C really is a miniature oven.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Ouch, 80-83C is really hot, and thats the temps within the laptop? Also ambient = the air around the laptop, the room temperature. Geez but 80-83C really is a miniature oven.

I think she meant that as the total of the two cpu's at idle... in which case whats it at load?

 

[superbooga]

CPU score is too low for a dual quad core.

The "4" is visible in the screenshot, meaning it was actually run at 1280x1024, not 2560x1600.

I can believe you about what you have in the lab, but the screenshot and scores are fake.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: superbooga
CPU score is too low for a dual quad core.

The "4" is visible in the screenshot, meaning it was actually run at 1280x1024, not 2560x1600.

I can believe you about what you have in the lab, but the screenshot and scores are fake.

So now we have a person saying the cpu score its too high for it to be a q6600 at stock.
Now we have another saying its too low to be dual q6600's...in which case I'd say has dual anything every scaled up to a full 100%?

...also images can be cropped (and this one clearly has been) and can be resized...

If anything that says it might be fake it that is looks a little wonky. (Eg. colors and Gpu-Z "DirectX Support)".

 

[krnmastersgt]

Originally posted by: Quiksilver

Originally posted by: krnmastersgt
Ouch, 80-83C is really hot, and thats the temps within the laptop? Also ambient = the air around the laptop, the room temperature. Geez but 80-83C really is a miniature oven.

I think she meant that as the total of the two cpu's at idle... in which case whats it at load?

If that's what she meant then at load they'll likely hit 120C+ collectively, and until those new heatpipes are built that heat is gonna stay in the laptop for a while, at least it'll double as an oven until they fix the heating issue.

 

[Tempered81]

solve it all by throwing up another SS.

i dare you.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
solve it all by throwing up another SS.

i dare you.

of what lol?

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
solve it all by throwing up another SS.

i dare you.

of what lol?

If that's what she meant then at load they'll likely hit 120C+ collectively, and until those new heatpipes are built that heat is gonna stay in the laptop for a while, at least it'll double as an oven until they fix the heating issue.

Good thing its still in lab testing...

 

[krnmastersgt]

Originally posted by: jaredpace
solve it all by throwing up another SS.

i dare you.

Oh my wouldn't that be fun. As for the low dual quad score, this is nVidia's first attempt at dual socket, if it really is dual socket, and it probably isn't anywhere near as efficient as Intel is since they've worked with dual sockets for a while. And now that I think of it, someone said finding her amongst 300 interns would be hard, but considering the info we're getting her BF isn't exactly working in marketing. Just gather the engineers with personal assistants, not just regular interns mind you, and then you could find out who she is. In any case I like the info we juts received assuming it's true.

 

[superbooga]

The CPU score in 3dmark scales very well.

Scores over 12k have been done with overclocked CPUs, so 7k should be minimum on non-overclocked ones.

 

[krnmastersgt]

Originally posted by: superbooga
The CPU score in 3dmark scales very well.

Scores over 12k have been done with overclocked CPUs, so 7k should be minimum on non-overclocked ones.

Yes but like I said, Intel has had experience running 2 cpus at the same time, this would be nVidia's first attempt at it, no reason for it to scale as well as skulltrail can.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: superbooga
The CPU score in 3dmark scales very well.

Scores over 12k have been done with overclocked CPUs, so 7k should be minimum on non-overclocked ones.

Like here?
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuch...owdoc.aspx?i=3184&p=12

13-14k on QX9650, at stock? While thats just the total 3Dmark overall...

 

[superbooga]

Over 12k for the CPU score, on a Skulltrail.

 

[Quiksilver]

Originally posted by: superbooga
Over 12k for the CPU score, on a Skulltrail.

LOL?

Intel claims that Skulltrail has reached a 3DMark06 score of 6481 and 20,160 points on Cinebench 10 when running at the standard 3.20 GHz frequency.

Edit:
Oh and if you link me to this in your next post...
http://service.futuremark.com/...5&compareResultType=14

Ahem...
Processor clock: 5524 MHz

 

[krnmastersgt]

I wonder how long that suicide system that fugger and kingpin made lasted.