Gsync vs Freesync, driver updates?

[imaheadcase]

terrible comparison. There is no difference between the two except price. Also, your simile is terrible too, because who there is no upgrade from a 980ti. $200 is a bunch of money. You know how many games that would have gotten you last week?

Perfect comparison. If $200 is a lot of money when you are forking over that much to begin with, perhaps you are spending out of budget for hardware.

 

[imaheadcase]

G-sync is rubbish. I had expected nvidia to start supporting adaptive sync with the 970 and 980 but they didn't (and nobody bashed them like they did with amd lacking hdmi 2.0)

G-sync locks you to nvidia. You pay $200 more and then your monitor can't use a major feature if you want to switch. The only problem with freesync in this regard is nvidias contempt for technology that benefits gamers without a direct path for profit for them (therefore artificially limtied to AMD GPUs for now). So it may be a while before they start supporting it. They will though. That kind of premium is silly and they cannot compete with an open standard. What they are doing right now is milking buyers silly enough to pay the extra money. When the selection of adaptive sync monitors explodes even further they will have no choice.

2 years maybe. Hard to tell because it really doesn't seem like people apply logic to nvidia products. They might get away with not supporting adaptive sync for a while. The future of G-sync is ultimately less certain.

Freesync is not completely driver based, but yeah software can improve it. Same with G-sync I would think. The major crucial difference is just the nature of each. G-sync cannot last. It was a doomed cash grab from the start.

Also it does seem g-sync monitors only have display port. Seems usually just the one.

So its rubbish because you don't want it..great logic.

 

[3DVagabond]

It's not a lie, it's completely true, freesync only works on amd, gsync only on nvidia.

I think this is information is more relevant to the OP than the question whether the vendor lock is artificial or not (it probably is). Maybe nvidia will also support freesync one day, but that's not something I'd count on.

The claim was made "vendor locked". That claim is untrue. nVidia chooses to not support it (yet). That is not a vendor lock.

Nobody is arguing that it runs on nVidia. That is a strawman.

 

[sandorski]

If everybody bought Freesync, Nvidia would release a Driver in a week to support it.

 

[ShintaiDK]

If everybody bought Freesync, Nvidia would release a Driver in a week to support it.

You assume the hardware supports it. Neither nVidia or Intel seems to support it with current hardware.

There is a reaosn why all AMD hardware doesnt support freesync. Including the R7 370.

 

[sandorski]

You assume the hardware supports it. Neither nVidia or Intel seems to support it with current hardware.

There is a reaosn why all AMD hardware doesnt support freesync. Including the R7 370.

Ahh, ok, they'd add it in next Refresh/Product line then.

 

[Keysplayr]

If Nvidia can technically support both, and AMD can only support one of these technologies, which should I, as a customer, purchase? The one with more potential or the one with less potential?

 

[sandorski]

If Nvidia can technically support both, and AMD can only support one of these technologies, which should I, as a customer, purchase? The one with more potential or the one with less potential?

The one with all the Potential, the Open Standards one.

 

[Keysplayr]

The one with all the Potential, the Open Standards one.

Which one is that? The one that supports its own technologies plus everything else I'm assuming?
I think that would fall under the "all" category.

 

[BigDaveX]

I suspect that what we'll eventually see is the two companies (and VESA) coming together to create a Freesync 2.0 that combines G-Sync and the current Freesync into a single standard, with all the advantages of both. AMD fans will get to crow that their company's business approach won out. Nvidia fans will get to crow that the new standard owes more to G-Sync than the original Freesync. And Intel graphics users will just be glad that their gaming performance doesn't look quite as bad as it actually is. Everyone wins!

 

[Keysplayr]

This very thing happened with VHS and betamax.
HDDVD and bluRay. ;]
Seriously though, what you suggest isn't out of the question.

 

[showb1z]

I suspect that what we'll eventually see is the two companies (and VESA) coming together to create a Freesync 2.0 that combines G-Sync and the current Freesync into a single standard, with all the advantages of both. AMD fans will get to crow that their company's business approach won out. Nvidia fans will get to crow that the new standard owes more to G-Sync than the original Freesync. And Intel graphics users will just be glad that their gaming performance doesn't look quite as bad as it actually is. Everyone wins!

Freesync isn't a standard, it's just the way AMD implemented the Adaptive Sync VESA standard, you know the organization where Nvidia is also on the board of directors.
Anyone is free to implement it however they see fit.

 

[sandorski]

Which one is that? The one that supports its own technologies plus everything else I'm assuming?
I think that would fall under the "all" category.

There is only 1 at this time.

 

[Keysplayr]

There is only 1 at this time.

I agree.

 

[bystander36]

The claim was made "vendor locked". That claim is untrue. nVidia chooses to not support it (yet). That is not a vendor lock.

Nobody is arguing that it runs on nVidia. That is a strawman.

Look up the definition of vendor locked. It fits the definition, whether or not Nvidia can or cannot support it. Nvidia does not support it, so that is all that matters.

You nor I can use it, no matter how open the standard is.

 

[Azix]

Which one is that? The one that supports its own technologies plus everything else I'm assuming?
I think that would fall under the "all" category.

That would be freesync if talking about monitors. If talking about GPUs then nvidia, if they really could support adaptive sync on current hardware. Once they do start supporting it then consumers are completely free to choose and match any vendor to any monitor.

I suspect that what we'll eventually see is the two companies (and VESA) coming together to create a Freesync 2.0 that combines G-Sync and the current Freesync into a single standard, with all the advantages of both. AMD fans will get to crow that their company's business approach won out. Nvidia fans will get to crow that the new standard owes more to G-Sync than the original Freesync. And Intel graphics users will just be glad that their gaming performance doesn't look quite as bad as it actually is. Everyone wins!

Nvidia doesn't have it in them.

 

[sandorski]

Look up the definition of vendor locked. It fits the definition, whether or not Nvidia can or cannot support it. Nvidia does not support it, so that is all that matters.

You nor I can use it, no matter how open the standard is.

If you made Video Cards, you could. No charge, no strings. So it's not "vendor locked" in any sense of the term. It may not be an option for you, but that's a different issue. An issue that exposes the folly of Proprietary Standards.

 

[Headfoot]

I wonder if Intel iGPUs are going to go onto a variable refresh technology? VESA Adaptive Sync? Their own tech?

 

[pj-]

You assume the hardware supports it. Neither nVidia or Intel seems to support it with current hardware.

There is a reaosn why all AMD hardware doesnt support freesync. Including the R7 370.

I think the 370 doesn't support it because it only has DP 1.2. DP 1.2a is required for adaptive sync.

It looks like no current nvidia cards have 1.2a so they are also incapable of using freesync.

 

[ShintaiDK]

I wonder if Intel iGPUs are going to go onto a variable refresh technology? VESA Adaptive Sync? Their own tech?

They dont have any official intention for it yet.

 

[stahlhart]

Are we going to have to go through this again?

OP -- use the forum's search function, and you'll find at least a dozen threads that all ended up with the same mudslinging by the same individuals here, with no one's mind anywhere ever changed about anything.

Jesus Christ...

-- stahlhart