GSM and TDMA?

spp

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Hey all.... I'm looking at the cell phone plans and am confused about the difference between GSM and TDMA.... (or GPRS)...

what do they stand for and what are the differences?

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ElFenix

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as far as the consumer is concerned... very little. GSM has those nice card things, though. TDMA is basically the oldest sort of sharing you can think of... i don't know the method that GSM uses to share channels...

now CDMA takes up less spectrum space so those have gone G3 first in the US (sprint vision).
 

jlee75

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time to find that one thread.... forgot who laid it all out though. had all the information on the different types of systems
 

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i was checking verison plans and it seems that the have cdma.... is cdma better than gsm or tdma?? (i know myplan right now is cingular using gsm, and the reception is not very good around where i live....)
 

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Originally posted by: spp
i was checking verison plans and it seems that the have cdma.... is cdma better than gsm or tdma?? (i know myplan right now is cingular using gsm, and the reception is not very good around where i live....)

the biggest thing you should be choosing providers by is who works best in your area. ask people at work/school wherever who they have and if they experience dropped calls, dead zones, etc. if your phone doesn't work whether the tech behind it is superior or not doesn't matter.
 

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i c... so what does the g3 do then?? it's new.. .and i suppose it should be better in some way??
 

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argh... i still can't find that link to the thread... still searching. the poster even discusses G3, but calles it G2.5 right now. As far as I know, GSM allows more bandwidth which is good for data. AT&T uses both TDMA (voice) and GSM for their new service. Alot more features are capable with GSM.
 

spp

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ah.... and phones usually support only 1 technology otherwise it's too expensive right... and that's why att support
this phone
 

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yup. hard to find a phone that does two systems. that one siemens phone does both. the t68i only is GSM. siemens s40 i believe is both TDMA and GSM but is not triband GSM. which means no int'l service in europe/asia.
 

spp

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yeai hate it when they made it all complicated.. is t68i a good phone?? and what's the difference between 68i and 68m?
 

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Originally posted by: spp
i c... so what does the g3 do then?? it's new.. .and i suppose it should be better in some way??

3g is third generation cellular service... no one has figured out something real to do with it so at&t and sprint are using it to send grainy pictures to people's phones... if you have a phone-camera. the biggest improvement is that with 3g you can cram more phones onto the same tower, or at least thats what the sprint rep told me back in june when i asked what they would be doing. in the future 3g promises mobile high speed internet... right now you can do it but its like $0.02/meg or something. which is probably ridiculous.
 

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Okay, here's a summary that should help a little:

The US has three major types of networks: TDMA, CDMA, and GSM. As mentioned before, TDMA is the oldest of the three and is being phased out by the companies that still use them (AT&T and Cingular). CDMA and GSM are 2G, or second generation networks. There are advantages and disadvantages for both.

CDMA networks, which are used by Sprint and Verizon, have received what Sprint and Verizon call an upgrade to 3G, but that's not quite accurate as it is more a 2.5G technology now. You may have seen Sprint's new data "Vision" plans which utilize the upgraded capabilities of the network. Initial reports say that the upgrade has not been significant and that both phones and the network are having problems with data. This however does not affect cellular voice communications.

GSM networks, used by T-mobile/Voicestream, Cingular, and AT&T, is the standard network for most of the world, including Europe, South America, and many parts of Asia. The main advantage to GSM is the SIM card, in that you receive a SIM card that can be used on basically any GSM phone. All your personal data, including your address book, is stored on your SIM card, meaning that you're not stuck with one phone. GSM has received an upgrade similar to that of CDMA networks in GPRS, which assists in making data (not voice) transfers quicker. GPRS's success has been better, as it is a bit more mature now.

No one in the US has 3G technology. True 3G technology means that you get DSL speeds (give or take) with your cell phone, compared with what we get (9.6K - 56K). As the growth of the US cellular market is hampered by the sheer size of the area to cover, our technology will lag behind those of Europe and Asia for at least a while. Case in point: Korea and Japan have the most advanced cellular networks (CDMA2000 and variants) in the world right now...what they do with phones (video teleconferencing and such) is quite amazing.

In terms of reception or call quality, your geographic market is the best indicator of the type of service you will receive. As mentioned before, you should definitely ask around in your area to see who seems to have the best quality. Assuming that you're in Berkeley, T-mobile, Cingular, and AT&T should be providing GSM networks, and Sprint and Verizon should be offering CDMA networks. For now, call quality/reception will be very similar for Cingular and T-mobile as they share cell towers. As for the others, your guess is as good as mine sicne I've only been in SD and LA. :p

After checking out call quality and reception, your next filter should be for providers who provide good plans. If we look just at plans, Cingular, T-mobile, and AT&T all give around 500-600 anytime minutes and 3000 night/weekend minutes for $40/month. Sprint and Verizon give around 300-350 anytime minutse and 3000 night/weekend minutes for the same price. So, unless the three GSM providers' reception really stinks around there, I'd recommend them over Sprint or Verizon. Phone-wise, AT&T (if GSM is there) has the best phones, with the T68i and such, then Sprint (Samsung A500, A460, etc.), then Cingular and T-mobile (V60i, T68), then Verizon.

Okay, so I was bored...enjoy :)


Edit: About the T68 series...the T68i is the newer version...they are very similar except that the T68i has a bit more memory and has multimedia messaging capabilities. If you want to buy a T68m or T68i, make sure that reception around your area is very good...the T68 series certainly do not have the best reception of the GSM phones out there, but they make up for with that spiffy color screen and all the features (i.e. bluetooth) that they offer. IMHO, the best GSM phone out there is the Samsung S100...yum.
 

spp

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so which phone potentially has the best reception?? i care more about reception than functions..
 

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If you're going GSM, I'd recommend the Ericsson T39...it's the T68 without the color but with better reception. It's also a flip phone. The only downside is that it doesn't look as cool. If you want the best reception, I think the Nokia 6190 is still very good, though it's several years old and very clunky. The Ericsson R520m also has good reception. But, in the end, if you want the best phone hands down, it's the Samsung S100...color screen, thin flip phone, awesome reception...too bad it's $500. :p