GRRRRR, these apartment management people are SCUM.

[daweeze02]

i did the same thing with my apartment i moved into a new house and kept paying for my apartment. What i did was put one chair in the middle of the loving room, so then it it legally still occupied and then they cannot go into the apartment without calling you first.


Also legally they cannot show your apartment while you are still under lease with them. My My last lanlords tried keeping our deposit even though the house was spotless and we even bought the owner some new molding for the outside of the house where the grill burnt it. Funny thing is when they inspected the house on our last day they told us everything was fine. Then 2 months later after we had moved 4 hours away they said we werent getting our deposit back. So I ended up filling a report with the BBB and having my very persausive mom call and act like she was my lawyer. 2 weeks later our full deposit was in the mail

 

[mugs]

OK, so when they told you you're breaking the lease, did you ask them "how am I breaking my lease?" (I hope so) If so, how did they respond?

 

[buck]

Originally posted by: mugs
OK, so when they told you you're breaking the lease, did you ask them "how am I breaking my lease?" (I hope so) If so, how did they respond?

I am confused as to why he didnt put up a fight or even a word when they asked for his keys and his rent check.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: buck

Originally posted by: mugs
OK, so when they told you you're breaking the lease, did you ask them "how am I breaking my lease?" (I hope so) If so, how did they respond?

I am confused as to why he didnt put up a fight or even a word when they asked for his keys and his rent check.

i paid decembers rent. haven't paid January's rent yet.

i think i am just going to not pay january's rent and have them just evict me.

their practices are grossly unethical.

they want me to pay rent, keep an empty apartment AND pay them a fine.

BS. either i pay a fine and we end it, or it's my apartment and they can get access when lease is up.

this BS with me paying rent AND paying a fine all the while allowing them to show my apartment is just PURE BS.

and the reason i let everything go before was, i had too much on my plate as it was.

 

[DBL]

I would let them know your situation and that you need to be let out of your lease. Tell them to keep your security deposit and 1 extra months rent. Send all this certified mail and be done with them.

Of course, the laws vary by state but most requires the landlord to make an honest effort to rent the place in this situation. They then can only charge you for the actual rent lost after a certain point. There usually is not a reason to continue paying your rent through the full lease term.

 

[mugs]

It's like I'm talking to a brick wall here. WHAT ARE THEY SAYING YOU'RE DOING THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY IN VIOLATION OF THE LEASE?

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

i feel like just saying fvck them and stop paying, wtf are they going to do kick me out of the apartment?

They'll put a collection agency on you.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: mugs
It's like I'm talking to a brick wall here. WHAT ARE THEY SAYING YOU'RE DOING THAT IS SUPPOSEDLY IN VIOLATION OF THE LEASE?

:laugh:
OP, reply to that question before half of ATOT raids your house.

 

[Looney]

Flush some cement down the toilet.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: Phoenix86
Why the hell would you allow them to show your appartment? Get the keys, go back and make the place unshowable w/o damaging anything. You know they are, in general (local laws vary), supposed to rent your place FIRST to let you out of the lease. IE they try and show your place until someone rents.

If they are showing your place, and renting out others because you are already paying for that one, they may have put themselves in a real spot, legally.

i'll check and see the laws on that. that may be why they are giving me such a stink right now, they probably want to lease out other properties first and are going to keep me as status unknown as long as they can.

hence everytime i call they give me the run around.

Of course that's why. Look at it from their side, you are already paying and someone new comes to the appartment to rent. Are they going to rent an unused appartment or yours and not generate any new revenue? That's why there are laws against this, to protect the renter.

I mean what appartment is 100% occupied that they would need to rent yours first? None.

The "genenral" (again, local laws vary) way it's supposed to work is this: You want out of your lease w/o breaking the lease and paying the extra fees. They are supposed to rent out your place to the FIRST available person (obviously they don't want to do this for reasons given above).

There was a thread recently about someone in a similar position, only they had someone else to take over the lease, but the owner was balking on that too... There may be some relevant information as this is very similar. I'll see if I can find it.

edit: thread.
Maryland's law on the subject.
Under Maryland law, a landlord is prohibited from
unreasonably withholding consent to a sublease or assignment when a clause in a lease requires the landlord's consent but is silent with respect to permissible reasons for refusal.

What does your agreement with the landlord say about breaking the lease? There should be a section to cover this.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: DaShen
Happened to a friend of mine too, either get a lawyer or pay the fine. Apartment owners are all about making money, no matter how shady.

here is their idea of fine, i pay rent until they get someone in the apartment then i have to pay them an additional $400.00.

up to that, i was agreeable, but them treating my like a second class citizen is just unacceptable.

Dude... Paying $400 to get out from under a lease is a helluva lot better than paying a year's worth of rent for a place you aren't living at. What's the problem? Why wouldn't you just find another renter and pay the fee? Why didn't you just do that in the first place?

 

[NascarFool]

You are most likely violating the lease because the apartment is vacant. Read the lease, you might find a clause that states that it cannot be vacant. You were an idiot for turning over the keys (I mean that in a polite way ).Use the $400 to hire a good attorney and fight them. You'll more than likely spend much more than $400 by time it's over.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Ok.. None of this makes any sense.

1. Paying a years worth of rent to avoid a $400 fee is stupid. Just break the lease, give your 30 days notice and pay the fee. They can't put you into collections unless you owe them money.
2. You can't find the next renter because the apartment manager has to approve the renter. (Check credit, etc...) Finding the renter is the manager's responsibility. You're not a licensed property manager are you?

Why did you let this turn into such a mess? This should have been over 30 days after you moved into your home.

 

[everman]

Seeing how they basically have taken posession of the the apartment from you, that may be enough to prove in court that the lease has been terminated. Especially since they are now showing it prospective customers.

 

[Phoenix86]

Good point folks, breaking the lease and paying the fee is a "proper" way to break the lease and won't affect you negativly as far as credit or renters history.

Chances are there's more to it than the $400 though. Most agreements have a clause that reads you pay x% of the remaining rent (generally ~90%) + a fee, which isn't always cheaper than paying throught the terms of the agreement.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: everman
Seeing how they basically have taken posession of the the apartment from you, that may be enough to prove in court that the lease has been terminated. Especially since they are now showing it prospective customers.

That can go both ways, they could say they were showing the appartment to get someone to take over the lease. Not that's what they are doing, they are likely using it as a demo appt. and renting other units with the same floor plan.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Ok.. None of this makes any sense.

1. Paying a years worth of rent to avoid a $400 fee is stupid. Just break the lease, give your 30 days notice and pay the fee. They can't put you into collections unless you owe them money.

The way I understand it, he can only get by with paying the $400 fee if they rent it to someone else. Otherwise I think he'd have to pay all the rent he'd owe them under the lease.

2. You can't find the next renter because the apartment manager has to approve the renter. (Check credit, etc...) Finding the renter is the manager's responsibility. You're not a licensed property manager are you?

It sounds like the poperty management company IS looking for a new renter, but it can't hurt for him to direct people to them.

 

[Schfifty Five]

From the information that OP has presented, it seems like the management people are idiots and just trying to exploit this situation.

However, OP sounds like he hasn't clearly explained to management his situation nor has OP explained it to us very well.

The bottom line is that if you are still paying rent, you haven't broken anything yet and them taking your keys and showing it off isn't right. But somehow you didn't stand up for yourself or you let them walk all over you and now you are in this sh!t situation. Stop pussyfooting and raise hell. Explain to them CLEARLY what is wrong w/ what they are doing.

And FFS, answer the question of "what exactly are you breaking" in your lease!

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
The bottom line is that if you are still paying rent, you haven't broken anything yet and them taking your keys and showing it off isn't right. But somehow you didn't stand up for yourself or you let them walk all over you and now you are in this sh!t situation. Stop pussyfooting and raise hell. Explain to them CLEARLY what is wrong w/ what they are doing.

Their showing his apartment is actually good for him, and I'm guessing he's allowing them to do that. If they find a new renter, that'll allow him to get out of his lease early without having to pay all of the rent he owes.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: DaShen
Happened to a friend of mine too, either get a lawyer or pay the fine. Apartment owners are all about making money, no matter how shady.

here is their idea of fine, i pay rent until they get someone in the apartment then i have to pay them an additional $400.00.

up to that, i was agreeable, but them treating my like a second class citizen is just unacceptable.

Dude... Paying $400 to get out from under a lease is a helluva lot better than paying a year's worth of rent for a place you aren't living at. What's the problem? Why wouldn't you just find another renter and pay the fee? Why didn't you just do that in the first place?

no, they are saying, i can't sublease it. i have to keep paying rent until THEY find another renter THEN i have to pay the $400.00. plus the walk thru, they are trying everything they can to keep my deposit. most of the stuff on the report is just bogus.


they are claiming they have other vacancie's, i'm going to have to check the laws in NJ regarding which apartment should be rented out first.

 

[jvnn]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Apartment management falls somewhere between advanced check cashing and 2nd rate used car salesmen in the grand dichotemy of shady and unethical operations.

not exactly true. i had a client who owned about 130 homes all across philadelphia and he was a very good guy. he was honest and he made every effort to treat people fairly.

but i believe he was the exception.

I agree, I've rented a lot and had all kinds. One friend of mine, the owner wanted to paint the place and paid for him to stay in a motel while the job was being done. Another refused to refund any of our deposit even though we cleaned the place up nicer than when we got it.

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Ok.. None of this makes any sense.

1. Paying a years worth of rent to avoid a $400 fee is stupid. Just break the lease, give your 30 days notice and pay the fee. They can't put you into collections unless you owe them money.
2. You can't find the next renter because the apartment manager has to approve the renter. (Check credit, etc...) Finding the renter is the manager's responsibility. You're not a licensed property manager are you?

Why did you let this turn into such a mess? This should have been over 30 days after you moved into your home.

it hasn't been 30 days since i moved into my new home yet so your statement makes no sense.

the terms of the lease is, i keep paying rent UNTIL they rent it out to someone else, THEN i pay them an additional $400.00

obviously i'm not going to pay 6 months of rent to avoid a $400.00 fee. :roll:

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
The bottom line is that if you are still paying rent, you haven't broken anything yet and them taking your keys and showing it off isn't right. But somehow you didn't stand up for yourself or you let them walk all over you and now you are in this sh!t situation. Stop pussyfooting and raise hell. Explain to them CLEARLY what is wrong w/ what they are doing.

Their showing his apartment is actually good for him, and I'm guessing he's allowing them to do that. If they find a new renter, that'll allow him to get out of his lease early without having to pay all of the rent he owes.

exactly, i moved out, cleaned the apartment made is showable.


it's been 3 weeks since i moved out and wanted to make sure they were taking steps to get it rented out, that's why i called them.

if they had done what they should have been doing i wouldn't have posted this, but i think they are taking advantage of the situation because i'm paying rent on an empty apartment and they don't want to rent it out.

i'll pay january's rent and if they don't have it rented out by the middle of february, i'm not paying anymore rent. they can screw themselves.

 

[Phoenix86]

CHECK. YOUR. AGREEMENT.

You know, the thingie you singed your name to.

There should be a clause in there for this. What does it say?

 

[Schfifty Five]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Schfifty Five
The bottom line is that if you are still paying rent, you haven't broken anything yet and them taking your keys and showing it off isn't right. But somehow you didn't stand up for yourself or you let them walk all over you and now you are in this sh!t situation. Stop pussyfooting and raise hell. Explain to them CLEARLY what is wrong w/ what they are doing.

Their showing his apartment is actually good for him, and I'm guessing he's allowing them to do that. If they find a new renter, that'll allow him to get out of his lease early without having to pay all of the rent he owes.

exactly, i moved out, cleaned the apartment made is showable.


it's been 3 weeks since i moved out and wanted to make sure they were taking steps to get it rented out, that's why i called them.

if they had done what they should have been doing i wouldn't have posted this, but i think they are taking advantage of the situation because i'm paying rent on an empty apartment and they don't want to rent it out.

i'll pay january's rent and if they don't have it rented out by the middle of february, i'm not paying anymore rent. they can screw themselves.

Oh, so you were the one who initiated the "please show my apt to potential leasers" right?