Grrr... This would suck!

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rbV5

Lifer
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How do you think the studios are doing it, reshooting the movies in HD or BR?

They are using the Masters, the movies were't shot in 480p:roll:

The whole post is about why I think it would suck for me to spend money on getting DVDs of the same title in different format, to you guys ranting about what I have no clue. Read the freaking post, take a minute to understand the situation. THEN smash your keyboards in response.

*You don't have to spend money, your DVD's wiill play in either player and be <gasp> upconverted for you.

*You have no real rant, or point. You can't remaster the originals since you don't have access to them, and your upconverted DVD's will look no better, in fact worse since you will undoubtably introduce permanent artifacts into your idiotic upconveted time wasting encodings.
 

jtvang125

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Here's a thread I made comparing HD to regular dvd. The creator even upscaled the dvd images to HD resolution. Please don't tell me you can't see any difference.

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SSSnail

Lifer
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Originally posted by: rbV5
How do you think the studios are doing it, reshooting the movies in HD or BR?

They are using the Masters, the movies were't shot in 480p:roll:

The whole post is about why I think it would suck for me to spend money on getting DVDs of the same title in different format, to you guys ranting about what I have no clue. Read the freaking post, take a minute to understand the situation. THEN smash your keyboards in response.

*You don't have to spend money, your DVD's wiill play in either player and be <gasp> upconverted for you.

*You have no real rant, or point. You can't remaster the originals since you don't have access to them, and your upconverted DVD's will look no better, in fact worse since you will undoubtably introduce permanent artifacts into your idiotic upconveted time wasting encodings.
I won't be spending money on upconverted materials, but true HD or BR releases. Yes, it would suck </return>
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: rbV5
I assumed that everyone would be intelligent enough to know the damn HD or Blu-Ray players are backwards compatible, that should be a given. Why do some of you insist on mentioning the obvious?

Only an idiot would upconvert SD and then burn it to some sort of HD disc, so I assumed you weren't aware of the backward compatabilty.

Woah there genius, what do you think upconverting DVD players do? They fill in the freaking blanks. And how is that done? Magic dust? I'm sure it's not by your awesome brain power.

Why can't we have software that rips SD, attempts to fill in the blank - upconverting by software - wow, what a freaking concept. The more you know.

Some of you think you're too smart for your own damn good.

Modern graphic cards and HD-DVD/Blu-Ray players already do the upconvert on the fly Einstein.

So, studios are re-releasing these titles on HD or Blu-Ray discs are just a sham. I'm glad I have you posting here to clear up any misunderstanding I might have on the subject.

I can do this all day, and am really enjoying this conversation. Would you like another shovel?


wow.

hahahahahahhahahahah
 

mundane

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In the Topic Summary, you use the term "Converting". I think the misunderstanding here stems from most people interpreting that as some kind of software/hardware process. as opposed to the context of repurchasing titles.
 

SSSnail

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Originally posted by: mundane
In the Topic Summary, you use the term "Converting". I think the misunderstanding here stems from most people interpreting that as some kind of software/hardware process. as opposed to the context of repurchasing titles.

Oh snap!
 

BigJ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mundane
In the Topic Summary, you use the term "Converting". I think the misunderstanding here stems from most people interpreting that as some kind of software/hardware process. as opposed to the context of repurchasing titles.


This is a quote from the OP:

Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.
 

SSSnail

Lifer
Nov 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: mundane
In the Topic Summary, you use the term "Converting". I think the misunderstanding here stems from most people interpreting that as some kind of software/hardware process. as opposed to the context of repurchasing titles.


This is a quote from the OP:

Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.

True, if can be done then I won't have to replace.
 

Luthien

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Feb 1, 2004
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Yep, I stopped buying new movies for about 2 years now realizing I would want to replace everything anyhow. So, now I only have to replace about 100 movies. I figure that will cost me around $1000 after selling the old ones on ebay which won't get me much more than $3 each. In another 10 years might be another format lol.
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Let me rephrase this so that we're cleared about the subject. Remember your VHS collection? Yup, that went to the trash when DVDs came out. (Before some smart @ jumps in - no, DVD players are not backwards compatible with VHS tapes. There I said it). Now, most people will not replace there DVD collection with the HD version of the same. For some of us that feel as if it's a necessity, it will suck. /rant.

The big difference beyond lack of backward compatibility is that DVD offered a lot more benefits over VHS than Blu-Ray/HD-DVD offer over DVD (which is primarily an increase in resolution). Most movies aren't worth re-buying in a high definition format.

<arnold>Stop whining!</arnold>
 

rbV5

Lifer
Dec 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
Originally posted by: BigJ
Originally posted by: mundane
In the Topic Summary, you use the term "Converting". I think the misunderstanding here stems from most people interpreting that as some kind of software/hardware process. as opposed to the context of repurchasing titles.


This is a quote from the OP:

Quick, someone go write a software that rips and convert normal DVD files into HD or Blu-Ray contents. Profits.

True, if can be done then I won't have to replace.

I think the real misunderstanding is that you think you can duplicate a studio re-released title using your own SD DVD as the master to save the money replacing your DVD's with HD versions.

You cannot.

 

DaveSimmons

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Aug 12, 2001
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Originally posted by: SSSnail
How do you think the studios are doing it, reshooting the movies in HD or BR?.
You seem to be saying that you think the studios are upscaling / upsampling standard-def content.

35mm film stock used to shoot movies has something like 20 megapixels per frame of usable resolution. This was scaled down to 0.36 megapixel to make your DVDs.

To make high-def masters they re-scan the 35mm negatives again, but only downscale to 2 megapixels per frame this time.

The only time they need to upscale is for old TV shows shot on non-high-def videotape.
 

waggy

No Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Originally posted by: SSSnail
How do you think the studios are doing it, reshooting the movies in HD or BR?.
You seem to be saying that you think the studios are upscaling / upsampling standard-def content.

35mm film stock used to shoot movies has something like 20 megapixels per frame of usable resolution. This was scaled down to 0.36 megapixel to make your DVDs.

To make high-def masters they re-scan the 35mm negatives again, but only downscale to 2 megapixels per frame this time.

The only time they need to upscale is for old TV shows shot on non-high-def videotape.

yeah. I was reading on a tech site and theywere claiming they should be able to do 1-1 transfer in the next 10 years! i find that unbelievable
 

Kwaipie

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Sitting with just over 1000 DVDs, I'm watching from the sidelines for the format champion. When players hit the $200 mark, I'll start purchasing new titles in HD/Blu. I expect to replace about 10% of my collection with HD/Blu versions. The vast majority of my collection is just fine on DVD.