Grrr...the ARROGANCE

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TMPadmin

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Too bad you can't make him a seperate test with stuff that wasn't tought in the class. High end access, object linking, forms, templates, well you know. Using Access with a SQL database. If he passes then is was a waste of his time. But if he fails it then becomes you failded to teach him properly.

Just let him go, if he shows up he shows. Some kids you can't get through to some you can. I took some classes where I had to correct the teacher. I did it after class so I wouldn't discredit them infront of the class. Maybe put in some extra credit questions on the exams that you teach in class (if you notice he isn't showing up). Tell the class "this will be 10pts extra credit on your next exam. Or give pop quizes. ?
 

Garet Jax

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This thread is a humongous waste of my time.

<---- Goes away to look for a Intro to Office class he can take.

:)
 

hjo3

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> ...I'm a grad student stuck teaching a low level MS Office/Intro to Computers class

So this is at a college, right? If it is, I'd just tell the kid "Look, you're the idiot TAKING this class. If you already know the material, just challenge/audit it or take another class." You don't have to put up with crap like that.
 

StageLeft

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Cut his grade. If he asks why tell him his attitude sucks, or find stupid stickler details in his work.
 

tkdkid

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The replies to your post are surprising to me. If I were forced to take that class as a prerequisite for some other more important classes, then I would probably tell the teacher the same thing. The class would be a waste of time for me, especially if the prof kept making me do mindless busywork.

So, what's the point of the comment? Well, to inform the instructor that you aren't being challenged. You should give him some more advanced stuff to do, or at least point out the more advanced features of office that he can then study on his own.

For the most part, I was bored in school, and a lot of things that I did amounted to useless busywork. I didn't know any better though. It would have been great if the teachers had given me more direction and discussed more advanced topics with me.

Of course, he could also just be an ass.
 

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Originally posted by: darktubbly
Yeah, it's pretty useless for most people you'd find on AT, but most of the class is composed of fresh/soph. kids with basic computer skills. Most of them haven't touched Excel or heard of Access. Frankly, I'd much rather have some sort of exemption test for them...I'm sympathetic...I've been in quite a few of these classes as an undergrad. I keep my policy pretty lenient; I told the class they can do pretty much anything they want, so long as they don't disrupt their neighbor. So far it's worked out pretty well; the ones who are interested/polite sit up front while the Solitaire whizkids sit in the back.

the reason you shoudn't be so eager to grant them exemptions is because your department receives money based on how many student go thru classes, gen ed requirements like this are the reason that departments stay in business. gen ed generate more students and therefore more funds than all the department Major classess combined.


oh btw, since you are a grad student, this gen ed class is probably going a long ways to paying your tuition and stipend.
 

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: tkdkid
The replies to your post are surprising to me. If I were forced to take that class as a prerequisite for some other more important classes, then I would probably tell the teacher the same thing. The class would be a waste of time for me, especially if the prof kept making me do mindless busywork.

So, what's the point of the comment? Well, to inform the instructor that you aren't being challenged. You should give him some more advanced stuff to do, or at least point out the more advanced features of office that he can then study on his own.

For the most part, I was bored in school, and a lot of things that I did amounted to useless busywork. I didn't know any better though. It would have been great if the teachers had given me more direction and discussed more advanced topics with me.

Of course, he could also just be an ass.

sincce it is a NO ATENDANCE policy class, the student was way out of line.
 

TheBoyBlunder

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You should have said (assuming this wouldn't get you in trouble) "Because you were the only one to come up to me and complain about this class, I'm going to give you an F. If you want to get an A in this class, you have to come to class regularly and otherwise earn that A through classwork. You don't like it? Too bad. Go enjoy your F."
 

BillGates

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Originally posted by: boyRacer
Give him an F.

That's what I was thinking. The instructor is in control.... Make it difficult for the kid and see him sweat it. Oh well, if he doesn't like it, he shouldn't have said anything and taken the easy A.