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Originally posted by: Kilgor
The fact that you can even file a lawsuit over the amount of fat in fried chicken is depressing. 🙁


I know...i'm sure this lawsuit is going to be a flop. It'sa no brainer, if you want to be healthy, don't eat it at all.


what happen to common sense man !!!! :|:|:|:|:|:|:|
 
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛
 
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060413/D8GUS2GG1.html
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/business/14332907.htm
Order french fries or hot wings at a McDonald's or a KFC in the United States and you're more likely to get a super-sized helping of artery-clogging trans fats than you would be at their restaurants in some other countries.

A study of the fast-food chains' products around the world found remarkably wide variations in trans fat content from country to country, from city to city within the same nation, and from restaurant to restaurant in the same city.

The researchers said the differences had to do with the type of frying oil used, and the main culprit appeared to be partially hydrogenated vegetable oil, which is high in trans fats.

"I was very surprised to see a difference in trans fatty acids in these uniform products," said one of the researchers, Dr. Steen Stender, a cardiologist at Gentofte University Hospital in Hellerup, Denmark, and former head of the Danish Nutrition Council. "It's such an easy risk factor to remove."

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McDonald's Corp. (MCD), which promised in September 2002 to cut trans fat in half, and KFC parent Yum! Brands Inc. said the explanation is local taste preferences. But nutrition experts and consumer activists said it is about money: Frying oil high in trans fats costs less.

The Danish researchers tested products from the chains' outlets in dozens of countries in 2004 and 2005, analyzing McDonald's chicken nuggets, KFC hot wings, and the two chains' fried potatoes. The findings were reported in Thursday's New England Journal of Medicine.

At a New York City McDonald's, a large fries-and-chicken-nuggets combo was found to contain 10.2 grams of the trans fat, compared with 0.33 grams in Denmark and about 3 grams in Spain, Russia and the Czech Republic.

At KFCs in Poland and Hungary, a large hot wings-and-fries order had 19 grams of trans fats or more, versus 5.5 grams for wings and fried potato wedges in New York. But in Germany, Russia, Denmark and Aberdeen, Scotland, the same meal had less than a gram.

A large order of french fries at a New York City McDonald's contained 30 percent more trans fat than the same order from an Atlanta McDonald's.

Partially hydrogenated vegetable oil is cooking oil that has been injected with hydrogen to harden it and give it a longer shelf life. Switching to liquid vegetable oils such as canola, corn, olive or soy eliminates the trans fat, as has been done in Denmark under a 2004 law allowing only a minuscule amount of trans fat in foods.

Trans fat raises bad cholesterol and lowers good cholesterol. Eating just 5 grams of it per day increases the risk of heart disease 25 percent, research shows.

"Per gram, it is more harmful than any other kind of fat," Stender said. "It's a metabolic poison."

McDonald's said it "continues to work diligently on ways to reduce" trans fat in its fries. It said that most of its oils come from local suppliers, based on consumer preference, and that the oil used in the United States is different from that in Europe and elsewhere.

Stender and other experts said many restaurants still use partially hydrogenated vegetable oil to save money because it does not spoil and can be used over and over for frying.

Michael F. Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, said his group has petitioned the Food and Drug Administration to drastically limit the use of trans fats and require restaurant menus to note foods containing trans fat. He said FDA is still reviewing the petitions, "even though they agree it's killing thousands of people a year."

In January, the FDA began requiring package labels to list trans fat content. KFC and McDonald's both list the trans fat and other components of their foods on their Web sites and in stores, on such things as tray liners and brochures.

Jacobsen's center estimated a few years ago that trans fats prematurely killed 30,000 to 75,000 Americans a year. That number has probably fallen, he said, because many packaged-food companies have switched to healthier oils.

But many processed foods - including pies, tortilla chips, margarine and microwave popcorn - still contain partially hydrogenated vegetable oil.

Harvard School of Public Health cardiologist Dr. Dariush Mozaffarian and colleagues wrote in the journal that while it may be hard for restaurants and food manufacturers to eliminate partially hydrogenated oil, other countries have replaced it with unsaturated fats without raising costs or reducing quality.

Doing so might prevent thousands of heart attacks and strokes each year in the United States, they wrote.

Jacobsen said that the cost might be a penny per order of fries or nuggets, and that the taste difference would be minimal.

"I don't think people would mind paying a penny more or getting one less french fry to avoid heart disease," he said.

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On the Net: http://www.nejm.org

Harvard School of Public Health site on trans fats: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/transfats.html

American Heart Association site on trans fats: http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier4776
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo


i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛


The rampant use of corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup, partially hydrogenated oils, and hydrogenated oils in MOST packaged foods sold in the USA is far more of a danger than the cooking oil used by KFC. Not everyone eats KFC but good luck going to the grocery store and avoiding buying anything with at least one of the things I listed above.

All of those need to be eliminated from American food. However, it's always ultimately going to come down to people being aware, educated, and looking out for themselves. Lawsuits are not the way to go, in my opinion. The best way to make a change in the USA is to vote with your dollar... stop buying the things that are harmful. If enough people do that, the manufacturers will change their products to be more competitive.
 
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
In 6 months, we'll discover that trans fats are neccessary for certain bodily functions.

Unlikely. Trans fats are relatively recent, they are basically artifical saturated fats.

I also find it hard to imagine thet KFC fries much food in trans fats. Why bother, when you can just fry in non-hydrogenated oils? It's much more likely that they make their batter with trans fats, along with whatever sidedishes they sell.
 
Originally posted by: DAGTA
The rampant use of corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup

I'm still not exactly clear on what makes high fructose corn syrup bad. It basically has the same ratio of fructose to glucose that sucrose (normal table sugar) has. It seems like the real issue is that sugar is bad.
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.

 
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: DAGTA
The rampant use of corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup

I'm still not exactly clear on what makes high fructose corn syrup bad. It basically has the same ratio of fructose to glucose that sucrose (normal table sugar) has. It seems like the real issue is that sugar is bad.

Processed/refined sugar is possibly the worst common ingredient in most foods. My doctor has a list of over 100 ways that sugar harms the body. I've also been reading a publication recently that shows processed sugar to actually be a larger contributor to heart disease than fats and cholesterol.

Manufacturers use corn syrup so much because it's addicting. Does peanut butter REALLY need corn syrup in it? Does ketchup?
 
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: DAGTA
The rampant use of corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup

I'm still not exactly clear on what makes high fructose corn syrup bad. It basically has the same ratio of fructose to glucose that sucrose (normal table sugar) has. It seems like the real issue is that sugar is bad.

Processed/refined sugar is possibly the worst common ingredient in most foods. My doctor has a list of over 100 ways that sugar harms the body. I've also been reading a publication recently that shows processed sugar to actually be a larger contributor to heart disease than fats and cholesterol.

Manufacturers use corn syrup so much because it's addicting. Does peanut butter REALLY need corn syrup in it? Does ketchup?

I don't know about any of that, but like I said, chemically high fructose corn syrup is close to identical to sucrose. They are both refined sugars.
 
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.


imagine if ford found out its interior plastics raised the chance of causing cancer, changed its forumlas to reduce such risk in other countries than the us and just left us at risk to save money. this is secret underhanded stuff that shouldn't be going on. people are going to eat fast food just as people are going do many other things that potentially harmful, but it doesn't give you a free hand to be irresponsible as a company.

and u know what? its insulting as an american that an american company feels that foreigners deserve better treatment than their own countrymen
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.


imagine if ford found out its interior plastics raised the chance of causing cancer, changed its forumlas to reduce such risk in other countries than the us and just left us at risk to save money. this is secret underhanded stuff that shouldn't be going on. people are going to eat fast food just as people are going do many other things that potentially harmful, but it doesn't give you a free hand to be irresponsible as a company.

and u know what? its insulting as an american that an american company feels that foreigners deserve better treatment than their own countrymen

I didn't know it was a secret that KFC was using Trans Fats. Wow look at that KFC has trans Fat in thier Chicken.

 
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.


imagine if ford found out its interior plastics raised the chance of causing cancer, changed its forumlas to reduce such risk in other countries than the us and just left us at risk to save money. this is secret underhanded stuff that shouldn't be going on. people are going to eat fast food just as people are going do many other things that potentially harmful, but it doesn't give you a free hand to be irresponsible as a company.

and u know what? its insulting as an american that an american company feels that foreigners deserve better treatment than their own countrymen

I didn't know it was a secret that KFC was using Trans Fats. Wow look at that KFC has trans Fat in thier Chicken.

You just pwned yourself you idiot, nowhere on that page do they disclose their use of trans-fat.

 
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.


imagine if ford found out its interior plastics raised the chance of causing cancer, changed its forumlas to reduce such risk in other countries than the us and just left us at risk to save money. this is secret underhanded stuff that shouldn't be going on. people are going to eat fast food just as people are going do many other things that potentially harmful, but it doesn't give you a free hand to be irresponsible as a company.

and u know what? its insulting as an american that an american company feels that foreigners deserve better treatment than their own countrymen

I didn't know it was a secret that KFC was using Trans Fats. Wow look at that KFC has trans Fat in thier Chicken.

do you really think most people know that in other countries the same companies don't use transfats?
 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.


imagine if ford found out its interior plastics raised the chance of causing cancer, changed its forumlas to reduce such risk in other countries than the us and just left us at risk to save money. this is secret underhanded stuff that shouldn't be going on. people are going to eat fast food just as people are going do many other things that potentially harmful, but it doesn't give you a free hand to be irresponsible as a company.

and u know what? its insulting as an american that an american company feels that foreigners deserve better treatment than their own countrymen

Most people just don't understand. They aren't willing to learn what transfats are and how they affect you. Its a damned shame when it would only take a few seconds to google it.
 
you would have to be a moron if you didn't know that FRIED chicken was not healthy for you. which is one of the reasons we rarely eat it even though i love it =(
 
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.


imagine if ford found out its interior plastics raised the chance of causing cancer, changed its forumlas to reduce such risk in other countries than the us and just left us at risk to save money. this is secret underhanded stuff that shouldn't be going on. people are going to eat fast food just as people are going do many other things that potentially harmful, but it doesn't give you a free hand to be irresponsible as a company.

and u know what? its insulting as an american that an american company feels that foreigners deserve better treatment than their own countrymen

I didn't know it was a secret that KFC was using Trans Fats. Wow look at that KFC has trans Fat in thier Chicken.

You just pwned yourself you idiot, nowhere on that page do they disclose their use of trans-fat.

???
 
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Kilgor
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: neutralizer
It's fried chicken. How much less unhealthy can you make it? No matter what it's still chicken dipped into oil.


its not like fried food absorbs massive amounts of oil, it cooks in a bubble of steam actually if done right.

Hmm really. Alright, I guess I was wrong. Eating them feels so oily though.

well its going to absorb alittle, but not as much as one would think. the chicken is oily to begin with so take that into account. if you roast a chicken its still going to leave your hands oily if you eat it that way😉


Lack of personal responsibility in the USA has lead to these lawsuits. If it's not healthy, don't eat it. If you eat it while knowing it's unhealthy, don't complain.

i generally agree with most lawsuits being silly, but do u think its right that we get the short end of the stick so the company can shave a few pennys? in other countries the same food has far less transfats, but they feel like they are ok poisoning americans😛

You're not getting the short end of anything, DON'T EAT THE DAM CHICKEN! KFC is not making you eat anything. Go home and eat some baked chicken with some chickpeas and lima beans if you want. My god people like you are the ruination of the country. Worry about yourself leave everyone else alone. I could care less if someone wants to eat a deep fried bacon and lard hamburger.


imagine if ford found out its interior plastics raised the chance of causing cancer, changed its forumlas to reduce such risk in other countries than the us and just left us at risk to save money. this is secret underhanded stuff that shouldn't be going on. people are going to eat fast food just as people are going do many other things that potentially harmful, but it doesn't give you a free hand to be irresponsible as a company.

and u know what? its insulting as an american that an american company feels that foreigners deserve better treatment than their own countrymen

I didn't know it was a secret that KFC was using Trans Fats. Wow look at that KFC has trans Fat in thier Chicken.

You just pwned yourself you idiot, nowhere on that page do they disclose their use of trans-fat.

???

Meh I get "your session has timed out" then just total and saturated fat.
 
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