Ground Zero Mosque Founder Wants Sharia Law In US

[Danube]

In this video - http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=111&load=3660 - former terrorist "Walid Shoebat, reveals contradictions between Ground Zero mosque founder Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf’s English statements and his Arabic comments. Abdul Rauf directly contradicted his New York Daily News article from earlier this week, and, in the process, lied to New York City about his true intentions."

In ME news sources, Feisal Abdul Rauf has said it's possible to slipstream Sharia into democracies

"Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia that are required to govern."

This corresponds with Feisal Abdul Rauf's comments in his 2004 book called "What Is Right With Islam". Feisal Abdul Rauf wrote about his desire for Sharia Law and his belief that the U.S. can accommodate it. He said that "the American political structure is Sharia compliant...For America to score even higher on the 'Islamic' or 'Sharia' compliance scale, America would need to do two things: invite the voices of all religions to join the dialogue in shaping the nation's practical life, and allow religious communities more leeway to judge among themselves according to their own laws."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,593329,00.html


So basically we have a guy that wants start a nation within a nation.

In the video below, Walid Shoebat makes it clear that under Islam (waqf) a mosque is considered an "embassy" of Islam no matter where it is, and can't ever be destroyed for any reason.

It's telling that Feisal Abdul Rauf calls for a religious dialogue - but at the University of Cairo he said "I do not believe in religious dialogue.. religions do not dialogue".

Shoebat says Feisal Abdul Rauf is following traditions of Taqiyya (precautionary dissimulation or deception and keeping one's convictions secret) and Kitman (mental reservation and dissimulation or concealment of malevolent intentions). Islamic teachings hold that when surrounded by enemies a person can speak loyally with the tongue while harboring inner animosity - they can act friendly toward enemies while their "hearts curse them".

Shoebat says no to be fooled about talk of the "Cordoba House" being like a YMCA. If Muslims gather to pray there it will be a mosque under Islamic laws.

In Switzerland people voted to make building minarets illegal because the Mosques were trying to build taller and taller minarets so that they would be higher than church steeples. Builders were also inspired by the words of Turkish PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan:

"Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers."


http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=111&load=3660

 

[Danube]

Protest planned for this week:

Ground Zero Mosque Protest Still Scheduled.

http://beforeitsnews.com/news/70/976/Ground_Zero_Mosque_Protest_Still_Scheduled..html

 

[sandorski]

Onward Christian Soldiers
Marching as to War
With the cross of Jesus going on before
yadda yadda ya

Fail

 

[dahunan]

I am so tired of any religion.. ALL of them.. please just leave us ALL ALONE..

Fix YOUR OWN GOD DAMNED LIVES before you ever ever ever have even the smallest fucking urge to stick your nose in anyone else's life and JUDGE THEM AND TELL THEM HOW THE FUCK TO LIVE THEIR LIVES...

90% of American Christians would be at the front of the line headed straight to hell if any of that crap were actually real..

Live your own life by Sharia law... never bring that crap here.. we have had enough... run all of you out of the country for all I care.. Americans are fed up with religion going all gay on them and fucking them in the ass with their tax free hate monies

 

[Danube]

I am so tired of any religion.. ALL of them.. please just leave us ALL ALONE..

You should include the pseudo religion Marxism since over 200 million died from that last century. The atheists are firmly ahead on the death count. Plus Obama and Dems have made Muslim terrorists a protected class so you all should be very upset with that.

 

[sandorski]

You should include the pseudo religion Marxism since over 200 million died from that last century. The atheists are firmly ahead on the death count. Plus Obama and Dems have made Muslim terrorists a protected class so you all should be very upset with that.

fail

 

[Danube]

fail

Truth fails with you? Who knew?

 

[Moonbeam]

Say a person is a Christian of, oh maybe the fundamentalist kind, or any of the many 'only Christian sects' differing, one from the other, in some, in reality, insignificant detail, but to them vitally significant variance which serves to delineate the one true version of Christianity from all the other impostors, and which, by some divine miracle happens, not only to be that said one true religion, but also the one he or she was likely born in, and say also, as is almost universally true of such kinds of Christians that our said exponent, owing to the fear of hell inculcated into his bones and being at a very young age, as is proper training for such religions, has rendered him or her incapable of independent logical thought of the kind proper to any normally developed three centered being, and the person instead manifests, where logic and reason should supply answers, only the regurgitated pablum of a lifetime of insipid brainwashing, the accumulated centuries of detritus and mechanical thinking, and in particular the violence and repressed hate that always accompanies those who have been made to feel they could deserve to go to hell. These sick beings, torture by notions of damnation and hellfire, but stuffed full of words of love they can't feel, turn the hate they were exposed to inward. And so it is that when they come across folk of other religions they instinctively react with madness and fear. Being psychotic themselves, they recognize in the religiosity of others a tremendous threat and danger. "Here are my fellow psychopaths, the ones who wish hell on me as I wish hell on others"

The religiously mad instantly recognize their fellow madmen of other religions. May they be left to kill each other, in the name of love, in peace.

 

[bamacre]

Say a person is a Christian of, oh maybe the fundamentalist kind, or any of the many 'only Christian sects' differing, one from the other, in some, in reality, insignificant detail, but to them vitally significant variance which serves to delineate the one true version of Christianity from all the other impostors, and which, by some divine miracle happens, not only to be that said one true religion, but also the one he or she was likely born in, and say also, as is almost universally true of such kinds of Christians that our said exponent, owing to the fear of hell inculcated into his bones and being at a very young age, as is proper training for such religions, has rendered him or her incapable of independent logical thought of the kind proper to any normally developed three centered being, and the person instead manifests, where logic and reason should supply answers, only the regurgitated pablum of a lifetime of insipid brainwashing, the accumulated centuries of detritus and mechanical thinking, and in particular the violence and repressed hate that always accompanies those who have been made to feel they could deserve to go to hell.

^^ Longest sentence on the internet.

 

[Danube]

The religiously mad instantly recognize their fellow madmen of other religions. May they be left to kill each other, in the name of love, in peace.

Which is why libs identify with Muslim terrorists before Christians. Even though Muslims want to throw homosexuals off of high building they support them because there is no contrast. It's easier for homosexual groups to side with obvioulsy rotten groups (Muslim terrorists) than those more thoughtful on moral grounds grounds (American Christians - or what's left of them). A moral/psychological threat is worse than a physical threat to the disordered.

In essence, libs would rather side with the obviously rotten than the apparently good - which is suicidal for them long run .

 

[Red Dawn]

Which is why libs identify with Muslim terrorists before Christians. Even though Muslims want to throw homosexuals off of high building they support them because there is no contrast. It's easier for homosexual groups to side with obvioulsy rotten groups (Muslim terrorists) than those more thoughtful on moral grounds grounds (American Christians - or what's left of them). A moral/psychological threat is worse than a physical threat to the disordered.

In essence, libs would rather side with the obviously rotten than the apparently good - which is suicidal for them long run .

The vast majority of "Libs" like the vast majority of "Wingnuts" like yourself are Christian.

 

[Danube]

The vast majority of "Libs" like the vast majority of "Wingnuts" like yourself are Christian.

Umm yeah - like the VAST majority of US is Chrsitian (despit homosexual molestors in Catholic church)

"79% Believe Jesus Christ Rose from the Dead"

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...09/79_believe_jesus_christ_rose_from_the_dead

It's typical a hard core Muslim threat to freedom is ignored (by libs) because of Christians

 

[Red Dawn]

Umm yeah - like the VAST majority of US is Chrsitian (despit homosexual molestors in Catholic church)

"79% Believe Jesus Christ Rose from the Dead"

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...09/79_believe_jesus_christ_rose_from_the_dead

It's typical a hard core Muslim threat to freedom is ignored (by libs) because of Christians

How are they a hard core threat to our freedom? (this ought to be good)

 

[MotF Bane]

You should include the pseudo religion Marxism since over 200 million died from that last century. The atheists are firmly ahead on the death count. Plus Obama and Dems have made Muslim terrorists a protected class so you all should be very upset with that.

200 million is far overboard. Where are you adding that up from? Even the Soviet Union and PRC combined don't even make half of that. As for Christians... arguably the destruction of the Roman Empire, the burning of the Library of Alexandria, several Crusades, corruption and excesses and greed throughout the Dark Ages, derailing the works of Copernicus and Galileo, destroying the native civilizations in the Americas in the name of Jesus, and I'm sure I've missed a few.

Now, to revisit the death tolls.
Chinese revolutions under Mao come to some 36 million, deaths under Stalin around 20 million, where else would you like to add from? Hitler put up 15 million non-combatant deaths, the Crusades add another million, the Thirty Years War and a number of religious civil wars add further millions to that total. Let me know how you came up to the 200 million, so that I can use the same method for a Christianity related death toll.

 

[halik]

Err this sounded like a cogent discussion of some muslim religious ideas, rather than that retarded brooklyn white kid turned Osama wanting to turn US into Saudi Arabia.

We ought to foster cogent thought rather than stupidity.

 

[spacejamz]

How are they a hard core threat to our freedom? (this ought to be good)

Why don't you ask the Danes, the French, the Swiss, etc or any other country that has had Muslim issues recently?

They want to impose their beliefs on everyone, not assimilate into a new surrounding. This will be the primary source of conflict.

 

[Red Dawn]

Why don't you ask the Danes, the French, the Swiss, etc or any other country that has had Muslim issues recently?

They want to impose their beliefs on everyone, not assimilate into a new surrounding. This will be the primary source of conflict.

Are you skeered that's going to happen here?

 

[spacejamz]

Are you skeered that's going to happen here?

What I am scared of is irrelevant. They have displayed a pattern of behavior that clearly shows they want everyone to adapt to their customs and beliefs and that they are not willing to embrace the culture and ways of the countries they emigrate to. This 'pattern' has caused significant grief for those countries who allowed this to happen. Danish citizens are threatened with death...France wants to ban burquas...The Swiss want to ban minarets in their skyline. We could probably do a whole thread on the UK and their Muslim issues.

Why do you want this grief to occur here?

 

[Sinsear]

Why do you want this grief to occur here?

You'll have to excuse him. He is waiting patiently to welcome his new Muslim overlords.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Psssst ....

If two parties in civil litigation in the United States wish to be bound by the tenets of Sharia Law (or establish a community based upon Looney Tune Cartoons, for that matter) it ain't no skin off my arse.

Let them have at it (until a court of competent jurisdiction says they crossed a line).

Differentiating between a proselytizing Mooslim and a proselytizing Fundie is quite un-American.




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[heyheybooboo]

So nice .... posted twice





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[Red Dawn]

You'll have to excuse him. He is waiting patiently to welcome his new Muslim overlords.

No I'm just not a paranoid little pussy like you guys.

Hell this is a predominantly Christian nation and they don't have their way, what makes you think an extremely small minority of third worlders with even a more bullshit religion is going to be able to press their beliefs on us?

 

[spacejamz]

Psssst ....

If two parties in civil litigation in the United States wish to be bound by the tenets of Sharia Law (or establish a community based upon Looney Tune Cartoons, for that matter) it ain't no skin off my arse.

Let them have at it (until a court of competent jurisdiction says they crossed a line).

Differentiating between a proselytizing Mooslim and a proselytizing Fundie is quite un-American.

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what if one party insists on wearing a burqua for their driver's license/ID picture? What if one parent decides their children have been corrupted so they kill them? Is this okay?

 

[spacejamz]

No I'm just not a paranoid little pussy like you guys.

Hell this is a predominantly Christian nation and they don't have their way, what makes you think an extremely small minority of third worlders with even a more bullshit religion is going to be able to press their beliefs on us?

Have you not been paying attention? We cannot say Merry Christmas anymore so we don't offend them...Some companies that have alot of Muslims workers are losing their US Holidays and are being replaced by Muslim Holidays. How about the Muhammad thing? The person who organized the Draw Muhammad day is being threatened with death for her freedom of expression (you do know that is a right here, dont you???) TV Producers have censored their shows to not offend Muslims....

Someone's beliefs are getting stepped on and it sure isn't Muslims...

 

[Red Dawn]

Have you not been paying attention? We cannot say Merry Christmas anymore so we don't offend them...Some companies that have alot of Muslims workers are losing their US Holidays and are being replaced by Muslim Holidays. How about the Muhammad thing? The person who organized the Draw Muhammad day is being threatened with death for her freedom of expression (you do know that is a right here, dont you???) TV Producers have censored their shows to not offend Muslims....

Someone's beliefs are getting stepped on and it sure isn't Muslims...

Excuse me Chicken Little, doesn't the fact that there was a Draw Muhammad day demonstrate that all they can do is make threats? They have no power, no say, no nothing. We're such a Xenophobic society that they'll never get the slightest foothold. But you go on being scared.