Grocery prices in Hawaii

Modelworks

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Saw this on CNN.
I was complaining about the price of groceries yesterday to a friend.
Normally I spend about $40 a trip, it was $53 yesterday.


Anyone posting here live in Hawaii ?
How do you survive ?


http://money.cnn.com/2008/06/1...postversion=2008061913
Honolulu (CNN) -- Imagine going to your local grocery store and paying over $8 for a jar of Jif peanut butter. How about $5.50 for a loaf of white bread, $6.50 for a gallon of milk or $7.19 for a half-gallon of orange juice?

These are just some of the prices we found in a recent survey of Hawaii's supermarkets. Families there are certainly paying the price for living in paradise.

Dave and Susan Ohamada were leaving the Honolulu Safeway when we asked to see their bill.

"I just spent $4.29 for a half-gallon of milk - and that was a sale price," said Susan. "Kleenex! I bought Kleenex for $2.99!" The Ohamadas have two young daughters, Rachel and Erin, and these days, shopping for a family of four is enough to empty their wallets.

Families like the Ohamadas have lived their whole lives in Hawaii, where about 80% of the food has to be imported from the mainland. So even in the best of times, food is more expensive here.

Last year overall inflation was up 4.8% in the Honolulu metro area, while food prices were up 5.5%. That compares to a 2.8% national inflation rate, and a 3.9% rise in national food prices.

Recently however, prices have started shooting up even higher. With the explosion in fuel prices, shipping companies have been tacking on fuel surcharges, and they're going up almost every week.

Tim Kennedy runs a Los Angeles-based warehouse that ships produce to Hawaii. "We're seeing these increases from all over. From the trucks that bring this product into here, to the airlines, to the ships that take these containers to Hawaii."

Kennedy said he's absorbed some of the costs, but not all. "It's a chain. It starts on one end and ends up at the consumer at the checkout stand."

Which means lettuce is running $2 per pound. Tomatoes are at $6.39 a pound and a 3-pack of red peppers costs $7.

Ira Rohter is a professor at the University of Hawaii, who has studied the state's agriculture business. Rohter sees no let-up in the high prices, and said Hawaii's residents have only one choice: "You grow your own food. You may not have noticed, we can grown our own food in Hawaii."

Rohter said the islands will never be 100% self-sufficient, but sees good agricultural land that would reduce how much it has to import. That land, however, is expensive. You can't afford to grow celery and carrots on land that costs $80,000 an acre. Furthermore, since most farmers here have short-term leases, there's no real incentive to invest in technology that improves production.

So, some shoppers have adapted on their own. Corrine Tantog has five kids to feed, but she recently started buying only what's in season: "I went to a nutrition class so that kind of helps. They tell you how to buy food."

That means going without luxuries such as ice cream, which costs about $7.60 per gallon. But when a box of cereal can cost nearly $8, and $7.19 only buys one pack of Kraft American cheese slices, saving money is easier said than done.
 

Engineer

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I've always wondered why it costs so much to "import" items to Hawaii (shipping costs?) and yet, imports here (larger shipping costs from longer distance?) cost less (so they say) than products made here. Go figure...:confused:
 

thespeakerbox

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Oh please, have to seen what some NY delis charge for groceries? I actually have to take my car out and get away for low prices. But yea, thats what you get for living on an island.

If i were there, i'd just plant my own stuff.
 

BoomerD

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We experience those prices every year when we go. IIRC, milk was $7.99/gallon last December at the Safeway in Lahaina...ON SALE! Almost everything has to be shipped in, and that adds to the price. Locally grown fruits & veggies aren't usually too bad for price, and TASTE GREAT! We hit a swap meet and/or farmers market every time we go.

 

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
We experience those prices every year when we go. IIRC, milk was $7.99/gallon last December at the Safeway in Lahaina...ON SALE! Almost everything has to be shipped in, and that adds to the price. Locally grown fruits & veggies aren't usually too bad for price, and TASTE GREAT! We hit a swap meet and/or farmers market every time we go.

Some reason I thought you were in Placer or El Dorado county california.
 

alkemyst

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It's not so much the importing there as the logistics. Hawaii deals with low volumes compared to the mainland.
 

ICRS

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Well, you're not off TOO far. I'm in Modesto.

Ah Stanislaus County.


I wonder if people in Alaska pay similar prices for food too? For example those who live in Nome, AK. What about those who live on the Aleutian Islands. Even Fairbanks isn't close to civilation.
 

Mermaidman

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Hawaii actually has its own dairy farms, but probably insufficient to supply its population. Amazingly, the wholesale price of milk is actually regulated by the state!!

HI is an extreme example of what could be an increasing localization of the economy. People have gotten used to easy access to goods from afar, but with fuel costs so high, it's back to poi and seafood for Hawaiians :p
 

marvdmartian

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I used to pay similar prices when I lived on Guam, back in the 90's. It wasn't unusual to pay $5 for a box of cereal (where I pay $3 now), or $4.50 for a half gallon of milk (real milk, not boxed, which was cheaper at ~$1.25/qt). Think I was paying about $3 for a dozen eggs.......

The problem with Guam is the same (having to ship most everything in), plus it's required by law that everything that gets shipped in, is shipped on a US flagged vessel, so most stuff comes from the west coast, versus the shorter distance from Asia.

You really want to see sticker shock? Buy a car in Hawaii or Guam. When I lived there, the price to ship a vehicle to Guam was ~$2000 (versus the $400 shipping people paid in the mainland). I think Hawaii's shipping was ~$800 back then (not sure what it is now). Nothing like adding a couple thousand to the sticker price of a vehicle!
 

CorCentral

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If I lived in Hawaii, I'd have a small/large garden (depending on the size of yard) and chickens in the back yard.
That would at least help alleviate the cost a bit on other items like BEER! :laugh:

Anyone know what a 24pack of Bud Light (cans) costs there?
 
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I do not live there, but if I did (and hopefully that will be sooner than later) I would shop at farmers markets and certainly have my costco card renewed. As others have also said, I would try my best to hone any gardening skills I had.

 

frostedflakes

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A member on another forum mentioned his parents pay $0.45/kWh, although he said $0.30/kWh is closer to the average now. Unfortunately I don't remember where in Hawaii his parents lived.

But yeah, everything's more expensive down there. Fuel costs are probably hitting them harder than the rest of the US as well, not only because of transporting stuff there, but IIRC a good portion of their power is provided by diesel generators.
 
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Originally posted by: CorCentral
If I lived in Hawaii, I'd have a small/large garden (depending on the size of yard) and chickens in the back yard.
That would at least help alleviate the cost a bit on other items like BEER! :laugh:

Anyone know what a 24pack of Bud Light (cans) costs there?

Uggh... Chickens. They're everywhere here. Don't see too many 24 packs but a 12 pack of Bud Light ranges up from about $10.99 on sale. Six pack of Corona or Heinekin... $9.99

Having lived in Alaska before I moved here, the price of groceries wasn't that much of a shock. Gas was $2.60/gallon last year... Now it's $4.85. But gas prices have rocketed up everywhere.

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Anyone posting here live in Hawaii ?
How do you survive ?

I live on Maui. It's not that hard.
 

KillerCharlie

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Originally posted by: thespeakerbox
If i were there, i'd just plant my own stuff.

If you had enough land to plant a significant amount of food, you probably don't have to worry about money anyway.
 

CorCentral

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: CorCentral
If I lived in Hawaii, I'd have a small/large garden (depending on the size of yard) and chickens in the back yard.
That would at least help alleviate the cost a bit on other items like BEER! :laugh:

Anyone know what a 24pack of Bud Light (cans) costs there?

Uggh... Chickens. They're everywhere here. Don't see too many 24 packs but a 12 pack of Bud Light ranges up from about $10.99 on sale. Six pack of Corona or Heinekin... $9.99

Well that's not too bad. I pay about $18./$19./$20. here for a 24pack/case.

 

Scarpozzi

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I went to Hawaii in 2006. It was pricey then, but it's understandable. Not only do they have limited food they can produce on the islands, they have limited space to warehouse extra food.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Originally posted by: thespeakerbox
If i were there, i'd just plant my own stuff.

If you had enough land to plant a significant amount of food, you probably don't have to worry about money anyway.

What about doing some hydroponic vegetables and stuff? That takes up less space, doesn't it?
 

SacrosanctFiend

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: CorCentral
If I lived in Hawaii, I'd have a small/large garden (depending on the size of yard) and chickens in the back yard.
That would at least help alleviate the cost a bit on other items like BEER! :laugh:

Anyone know what a 24pack of Bud Light (cans) costs there?

Uggh... Chickens. They're everywhere here. Don't see too many 24 packs but a 12 pack of Bud Light ranges up from about $10.99 on sale. Six pack of Corona or Heinekin... $9.99

That's pretty much the same price in TN.
 

sandorski

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I wonder how long it will be before Sail powered ships are back in vogue? I remember seeing a Pop Science article about Tankers/Cargo ships experimenting with Sail assist some 10 or 20 years ago. Not sure how far that went.
 

sandorski

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Originally posted by: BlinderBomber
Originally posted by: KillerCharlie
Originally posted by: thespeakerbox
If i were there, i'd just plant my own stuff.

If you had enough land to plant a significant amount of food, you probably don't have to worry about money anyway.

What about doing some hydroponic vegetables and stuff? That takes up less space, doesn't it?

You still need area for a Greenhouse. The only other way would bbe to use Grow Lights in a basement, but that requires lots of Electricity.


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Ooh, just thought of something: Converting the Roof and Attic of homes into Greenhouses. Enough space to grow a reasonable amount of Food and doesn't require yard space.