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waggy

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Originally posted by: ncage
I agree but i don't consider the food cooked on one of those electric smokers to be BBQ either :). It has to be cooked either over charcoal/wood or just wood. I have a weber bullet smoker and i love it. It just takes a LOT of time..especially for brisket.

i want to get a weber bullet. i keep meaning to buy one but just can't do it. im not sure i could justify the cost. not sure i would use it more then maybe 3 times a year.

i had a old one a friend gave me (he got a h ouse so took it back..the bastard) and i did a Turkey in it one summer. took all day but damn it was good.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: WaTaGuMp
I prefer to cook with Gasoline, the added flavor of unleaded is un-matched.

also faster. you throw half a gallon of unleaded onto some wood with the meat above it and light that sucker up. the meat is done in 1-2 minutes.

hmmm mmmm yummy
 

DAPUNISHER

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Originally posted by: ducci
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Where does my E-Z bake oven fall in all of this?

Mmmmm, taste the slow-cooked, light-bulby flavor.
The E-Z bake doesn't use a bulb anymore.




 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: SunnyD
barbeque

noun
1. meat that has been barbecued or grilled in a highly seasoned sauce [syn: barbecue]
2. a cookout in which food is cooked over an open fire; especially a whole animal carcass roasted on a spit [syn: barbecue]
3. a rack to hold meat for cooking over hot charcoal usually out of doors [syn: barbecue]

verb
1. cook outdoors on a barbecue grill; "let's barbecue that meat"; "We cooked out in the forest"

this is what happens when yankees who don't know any better are writing dictionaries. barbecue as a cooking method requires smoke. it does not require sauce. so the first definition is just plain wrong. the verb is also wrong for the same reason.

the second definition is a regional slang difference. in the south, where people know what barbecue is, such an outdoor gathering is a cook out. yankees, not knowing any better, call it a barbecue.

anyway, the best barbecue method is using logs of wood in a fire box, not charcoal or gas or electric.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: ElFenix

anyway, the best barbecue method is using logs of wood in a fire box, not charcoal or gas or electric.

i have to agree with this.

when i go visit my father in Southern Il or my in-laws in Kentucky we always hit one of the tons of little BBQ joints. where they do it as you said. it is far better then anything i have had.

 

Kirby

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: SunnyD
barbeque

noun
1. meat that has been barbecued or grilled in a highly seasoned sauce [syn: barbecue]
2. a cookout in which food is cooked over an open fire; especially a whole animal carcass roasted on a spit [syn: barbecue]
3. a rack to hold meat for cooking over hot charcoal usually out of doors [syn: barbecue]

verb
1. cook outdoors on a barbecue grill; "let's barbecue that meat"; "We cooked out in the forest"

this is what happens when yankees who don't know any better are writing dictionaries. barbecue as a cooking method requires smoke. it does not require sauce. so the first definition is just plain wrong. the verb is also wrong for the same reason.

the second definition is a regional slang difference. in the south, where people know what barbecue is, such an outdoor gathering is a cook out. yankees, not knowing any better, call it a barbecue.

anyway, the best barbecue method is using logs of wood in a fire box, not charcoal or gas or electric.

I'm from the south, and there is a bit of discrepancy. If I'm grilling chicken (low heat) and I use BBQ sauce, I would refer to it as BBQ chicken. But thats more because of the sauce than the method. Anything else on the grill, would be considered "grilled".

On the other hand, for BBQ ribs, there should be absolutely no grilling.
 

SphinxnihpS

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Originally posted by: G Wizard
oh gentle maiden of this spit
grant me thy boon, so i may sup
upon suckling pig this noon.

Nice!

OP, you can't tell the difference between something Bar-B-Qued over charcoal versus something Bar-B-Qued over natural gas. ...and by Bar-B-Qued, I mean cooked (just so we are clear I do not buy into your semantic argument).

Also, in either case you are cooking with burning organic matter.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: ncage
I agree but i don't consider the food cooked on one of those electric smokers to be BBQ either :). It has to be cooked either over charcoal/wood or just wood. I have a weber bullet smoker and i love it. It just takes a LOT of time..especially for brisket.

i want to get a weber bullet. i keep meaning to buy one but just can't do it. im not sure i could justify the cost. not sure i would use it more then maybe 3 times a year.

i had a old one a friend gave me (he got a h ouse so took it back..the bastard) and i did a Turkey in it one summer. took all day but damn it was good.

I can't help but use mine more often than that, I'm spoiled for most BBQ places around here now. So when I want ribs, I really only have one choice. And man, if you've never had smoked hot wings (smoked for a couple hours, then deep fried and covered in freshly made buffalo sauce)... those were so awesome. I smoked them after the Christmas turkey (when it was below 20F :p)
 

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Originally posted by: ncage
I agree but i don't consider the food cooked on one of those electric smokers to be BBQ either :). It has to be cooked either over charcoal/wood or just wood. I have a weber bullet smoker and i love it. It just takes a LOT of time..especially for brisket.

I got the same smoker. I love mine too! I use it year round. Still got some pulled pork butt in the freezer from it.
I got hold of some alder smoke wood and looking to smoke some fresh salmon this weekend...mmmmm!!
 

SlowSpyder

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My BBQ grill has a smoker built in. I once took some 1/4 lb hot dogs, cut them in half the long way, then sandwhiched some chddar cheese between the hot dog halves and finished them off by wrapping in bacon. I smoked them for about 2 hours. I just wanted to share how to prepare the best hot dogs ever.
 

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Originally posted by: ducci
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
Originally posted by: ducci
Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Where does my E-Z bake oven fall in all of this?

Mmmmm, taste the slow-cooked, light-bulby flavor.
The E-Z bake doesn't use a bulb anymore.

!?

What does it use?

My mind is blown.

heating element

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Edit: which means you can BBQ with it I guess
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Anubis
i really dont think anyone cares

The people that bitch about how "Stella" is the lowest quality beer that's acceptable will.
 

alkemyst

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funny about the electric vs a bbq joints cooker.

Next thing we will hear is it's impossible to make good pizza without a brick oven.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: dakels

Agreed with nkgreen. That original statement is total crap. Many people can taste the difference between heat sources. Most can even taste the difference between charcoals, especially natural charcoals over lighter fluid filled chemical crap. It doesn't take long to impart a smell and taste form the heat/fuel source, especially into mild flavored meats like chicken and pork.

The second one is called briquette. Do not ever associate it with charcoal.



 

Denithor

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Originally posted by: JDub02
Charcoal edge is in much lower initial cost and for the purist that thinks that flesh should only be cooked over burning organic material.

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Also, in either case you are cooking with burning organic matter.

Damn it, you beat me to it!
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: JDub02
As we enter the wonderful season of outdoor cooking known as summer, I would like to set the record straight on the various outdoor cooking methods and appliances.

First, let's define the terms:

Grilling - cooking meat quickly over a high direct heat. The meats that are grilled are typically smaller pieces of already tender meat (chicken, steaks, burgers).

Smoking - otherwise known as barbeque - cooking meat slowly over a low indirect heat source with, typically, alot of smoke to impart flavor. The meats that are smoked or BBQ'd are typically larger, tougher pieces of meat that are tenderized by the "low and slow" cooking process (brisket, ribs, pork butt, whole hog)


From those definitions, we can determine that the charcoal vs gas debate with respect to grills is a pointless one because the meat is not on the heat long enough to absorb a flavor from either source (unless you count residual lighter fluid on charcoal). Both heat sources, when properly prepared, produce virtually identical results. Propane has the edge for ease of use. Charcoal edge is in much lower initial cost and for the purist that thinks that flesh should only be cooked over burning organic material.

Now for true BBQ, I throw both of those out and prefer electric as a heat source since it's much easier to control than either propane or charcoal. And with smoking, the heat source does not generate flavor. That's what wood chunks are for.



According to wiki, only the US South considers BBQ to refer strictly to slow smoke cooking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbecue

Oxford dictionary says this



barbecue

? noun 1 an outdoor meal or party at which food is grilled on a rack over a charcoal fire. 2 a grill used at a barbecue.

? verb (barbecues, barbecued, barbecuing) cook (food) on a barbecue.

? ORIGIN originally in the sense "wooden framework for sleeping on, or for drying meat or fish on": from Spanish barbacoa, perhaps from Arawak, ?wooden frame on posts?.


I tend to follow the British definition a bit more. And it may only take a few minutes to cook the steak on charcoal, it will definitely acquire the charcoal taste.