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grilling != bbq

JDub02

Diamond Member
As we enter the wonderful season of outdoor cooking known as summer, I would like to set the record straight on the various outdoor cooking methods and appliances.

First, let's define the terms:

Grilling - cooking meat quickly over a high direct heat. The meats that are grilled are typically smaller pieces of already tender meat (chicken, steaks, burgers).

Smoking - otherwise known as barbeque - cooking meat slowly over a low indirect heat source with, typically, alot of smoke to impart flavor. The meats that are smoked or BBQ'd are typically larger, tougher pieces of meat that are tenderized by the "low and slow" cooking process (brisket, ribs, pork butt, whole hog)


From those definitions, we can determine that the charcoal vs gas debate with respect to grills is a pointless one because the meat is not on the heat long enough to absorb a flavor from either source (unless you count residual lighter fluid on charcoal). Both heat sources, when properly prepared, produce virtually identical results. Propane has the edge for ease of use. Charcoal edge is in much lower initial cost and for the purist that thinks that flesh should only be cooked over burning organic material.

Now for true BBQ, I throw both of those out and prefer electric as a heat source since it's much easier to control than either propane or charcoal. And with smoking, the heat source does not generate flavor. That's what wood chunks are for.
 
Originally posted by: JDub02
From those definitions, we can determine that the charcoal vs gas debate with respect to grills is a pointless one because the meat is not on the heat long enough to absorb a flavor from either source (unless you count residual lighter fluid on charcoal).

Absolute utter BS. I can taste lighter fluid as well as propane.

Charcoal chimney FTW.
 
Originally posted by: JDub02


Now for true BBQ, I throw both of those out and prefer electric as a heat source since it's much easier to control than either propane or charcoal. And with smoking, the heat source does not generate flavor. That's what wood chunks are for.

Fail. Show me one, just ONE competition BBQ top 10 finish that uses electric.

It may be convenient for you but the fuel source does add flavor.
 
You can impart flavor with charcoal, for sure, Use good lump charcoal, don't start it with fluid (use a tiny bit of paper, not hard) and cook on the slow part. Sure, it's not like a smoker or proper BBQ, but i've been grilling for a couple decades now and the the difference between gas and lump charcoal is pretty substantial to me. As long as you slow cook it, use a colder spot on the grill and don't press on the meat with a spatula like a noob, it will be good.
 
barbeque

noun
1. meat that has been barbecued or grilled in a highly seasoned sauce [syn: barbecue]
2. a cookout in which food is cooked over an open fire; especially a whole animal carcass roasted on a spit [syn: barbecue]
3. a rack to hold meat for cooking over hot charcoal usually out of doors [syn: barbecue]

verb
1. cook outdoors on a barbecue grill; "let's barbecue that meat"; "We cooked out in the forest"
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: JDub02


Now for true BBQ, I throw both of those out and prefer electric as a heat source since it's much easier to control than either propane or charcoal. And with smoking, the heat source does not generate flavor. That's what wood chunks are for.

Fail. Show me one, just ONE competition BBQ top 10 finish that uses electric.

It may be convenient for you but the fuel source does add flavor.

Especially if you are using natural lump charcoal. Mmm...
 
wrong, a consumer charcoal grill reaches temp much much higher than a consumer gas grill so its not possible to produce identical products anyway. it is possible to taste the difference even on a 6-minute grilled steak. with a well designed charcoal smoker (good heatsink, strategically placed vents) its easy to control temp and damned if it isnt better. the worlds best bbq houses will never use electric
 
Shit... the only true way to BBQ is to use the burning remains of your enemies as the heat source. Charcoal or wood? Terrible organic matter, and a waste of resources. Bodies, however, excellent when piled high in a pit and allowed to dry out a bit and clothes kept on for easy initial ignition. The hairy bastards are best, but stand back - that smell is a terrible one.
 
Originally posted by: Baked
So you don't BBQ on a grill?

I see what you did there.

You can. BBQ is a method of cooking, the vessel doesn't matter. You can actually do decent BBQ on a weber kettle grill.
 
Originally posted by: nkgreen
Originally posted by: JDub02
From those definitions, we can determine that the charcoal vs gas debate with respect to grills is a pointless one because the meat is not on the heat long enough to absorb a flavor from either source (unless you count residual lighter fluid on charcoal).

Absolute utter BS. I can taste lighter fluid as well as propane.

Charcoal chimney FTW.

Agreed with nkgreen. That original statement is total crap. Many people can taste the difference between heat sources. Most can even taste the difference between charcoals, especially natural charcoals over lighter fluid filled chemical crap. It doesn't take long to impart a smell and taste form the heat/fuel source, especially into mild flavored meats like chicken and pork.
 
Originally posted by: destrekor
Shit... the only true way to BBQ is to use the burning remains of your enemies as the heat source. Charcoal or wood? Terrible organic matter, and a waste of resources. Bodies, however, excellent when piled high in a pit and allowed to dry out a bit and clothes kept on for easy initial ignition. The hairy bastards are best, but stand back - that smell is a terrible one.

All joking aside the smell of burnt human flesh is one of the worst smells I can imagine. I don't understand why when we aren't that different from other animal flesh.
 
I agree but i don't consider the food cooked on one of those electric smokers to be BBQ either 🙂. It has to be cooked either over charcoal/wood or just wood. I have a weber bullet smoker and i love it. It just takes a LOT of time..especially for brisket.
 
gas and charcoal are very different. The gas can't get nearly as hot so to me it is not nearly as good especially for something like a steak which i like seared outside and rare in the middle.

also, your post is lame. it's semantics and electric smokers suck.
 
Originally posted by: ncage
I agree but i don't consider the food cooked on one of those electric smokers to be BBQ either 🙂. It has to be cooked either over charcoal/wood or just wood. I have a weber bullet smoker and i love it. It just takes a LOT of time..especially for brisket.

yup. in fact, i shouldve thawed my bulk ribs last night so i could go home and smoke a rack on my weber tonight!!!!!!!!!

though pertaining to the argument of electric vs charcoal, it wont change the overall cooking time of brisket since proper cooking of electric is regulated by weight and not bottlenecked by max temperature
 
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