Grid 2 Preview test: Optimized for Graphics Core Next

[Lonyo]

Some of us like cockpit view.

 

[Zanovar]

I would come last in that race Lonyo

 

[blastingcap]

These results remind me of http://hothardware.com/News/Indepth...Shows-Highly-Questionable-Tessellation-Usage/

 

[SirPauly]

Imho,

I really don't have a problem with this based on IHV's trying to be pro-active to improve gaming experiences for their customers utilizing their architectural strengths, which may differ at times.

The companies may have different strategies and vision for architectures and having content to showcase this is good for their customers and moving technologies forward over-all.

Differentiation may offer chaos and some division but moving forward and innovation is much more important and simply allow the market to decide for over-all or what decisions may be rewarded with more revenue, profits and share.

I don't desire to see the same for all, with everyone holding hands or dancing around a camp fire, singing show tunes but the industry, fighting, scratching, trying to innovate, move forward, differentiate, offer reasons and choices why I should buy your products over another.

 

[Olikan]

These results remind me of http://hothardware.com/News/Indepth...Shows-Highly-Questionable-Tessellation-Usage/

it is highly questionable...

 

[TheUnk]

Some of us like cockpit view.

Never quite understood why people like seeing 2 sets of arms and 2 wheels. Kills immersion for me personally.

If the game doesn't have an interior view without those I usually end up going with hood or bumper cam

 

[Xarick]

Imho,

I really don't have a problem with this based on IHV's trying to be pro-active to improve gaming experiences for their customers utilizing their architectural strengths, which may differ at times.

The companies may have different strategies and vision for architectures and having content to showcase this is good for their customers and moving technologies forward over-all.

Differentiation may offer chaos and some division but moving forward and innovation is much more important and simply allow the market to decide for over-all or what decisions may be rewarded with more revenue, profits and share.

I don't desire to see the same for all, with everyone holding hands or dancing around a camp fire, singing show tunes but the industry, fighting, scratching, trying to innovate, move forward, differentiate, offer reasons and choices why I should buy your products over another.

But when Nvidia does this with Physx everyone screams and shouts.

 

[Qbah]

But when Nvidia does this with Physx everyone screams and shouts.

Both camps can run this thing in Grid 2, nVidia is just slower - but still playable and with driver tweaks for sure it will be a closer competition. However, GPU PhysX doesn't run on anything else than nVidia cards, so that's not really comparable - Radeons can't even run it.

 

[SirPauly]

But when Nvidia does this with Physx everyone screams and shouts.

Not everyone though and really believe many are behind the innovation of GPU processing and GPU Physics, and more advanced physics, including multi-CPU core over-all. However, with proprietary and differentiation expectations of vocal screams and shouts!

 

[Zanovar]

Not everyone though and really believe many are behind the innovation of GPU processing and GPU Physics, and more advanced physics, including multi-CPU core over-all. However, with proprietary and differentiation expectations of vocal screams and shouts!

Ha,you say lots without actually saying anything tis a skill sir*winks**laughs*

 

[SirPauly]

What would forums be without vocal screams and shouts? Translates into gamers passionate about their choices and these products being very relevant, and worthy of such debate and discussions to me.

 

[Zanovar]

What would forums be without vocal screams and shouts? Translates into gamers passionate about their choices and these products being very relevant, and worthy of such debate and discussions to me.

Wasnt having a go mate just having a laugh.just pulling your chain

 

[Dankk]

Never quite understood why people like seeing 2 sets of arms and 2 wheels. Kills immersion for me personally.

If the game doesn't have an interior view without those I usually end up going with hood or bumper cam

I never understood this either. I already have an actual, physical wheel mounted to my desk when I'm playing. No reason for having a duplicate wheel on-screen. Hence I prefer hood/bonnet view.

 

[blastingcap]

I never understood this either. I already have an actual, physical wheel mounted to my desk when I'm playing. No reason for having a duplicate wheel on-screen. Hence I prefer hood/bonnet view.

I think there is less complex stuff to render that way, and it can speed up framerates. You might not care, but it matters to squeeze every drop of performance out of consoles.

 

[notty22]

My fav is racing games. NFS Shift type. Grid 2 does not look that graphically exciting. Maybe the gameplay/feel will be 'exciting'. Don't know yet. My favorite view is also bumper or hood cam. I like high fps, (yes , more than my screen refresh!). One of my fav games, had a bug, where SLI would not work with one of the views. Believe it was cockpit. That bugged me, now I'm back to single card, so no worries. Bring on the game!

 

[SPBHM]

Never quite understood why people like seeing 2 sets of arms and 2 wheels. Kills immersion for me personally.

If the game doesn't have an interior view without those I usually end up going with hood or bumper cam

bumper/hood cam kills the immersion for me, it's totally wrong.

I always play using the cockpit view, with the virtual wheel/arms disabled when possible, with the FOV and seat position adjusted correctly for my screen/wheel, that's for games like LFS, GTR, Iracing... Grid 1 didn't allow all of that, but still, better than not having cockpit view...
I still remember games from the early 90's late 80's already had cockpit view, I can't accept a new racing game without it.

 

[Erenhardt]

I never understood this either. I already have an actual, physical wheel mounted to my desk when I'm playing. No reason for having a duplicate wheel on-screen. Hence I prefer hood/bonnet view.

1. I don't like sitting in hot summer day with my racing gloves on.
2. My steering wheel is way below my display and and I can't see it.
3. I would be bad to have it in front of screen. Playing in night with no room illumination wold hurt the experience: Daylight race and [redacted] dark (black) hands turning a wheel? Since when I'm [redacted]?

No profanity in the tech forums please
-ViRGE

 

[-Slacker-]

Depends, we could see a lot of that go away if nvidia releases new drivers.

Without that lighting the 680 handily beats the 7970 ghz edition.

Not exactly. The 680 is 25% faster than the 7870 without the global illumination thing, while the 7970 is almost 50% faster than the 7870 with everything cranked up. The 7970 would most likely still be faster than the 680 without global illumination.

 

[3DVagabond]

But when Nvidia does this with Physx everyone screams and shouts.

Not everyone screams and shouts. Lots of people applaud. Those who scream and shout do so because they don't like proprietary features that are locked out on many users hardware. They prefer open standards that everyone is free to pursue and use.

 

[MTDEW]

Although I always prefer cockpit view, i can deal with bumper and hood cams also.

But the missing rear view mirror that nobody seems to care about really bothers me the most.

There is nothing worse than being hooked from a car that you didn't know was there in the first place just trying to change lanes or entering a corner.

And, NO, I dont consider a "look back" button an adequate substitute for a rear view mirror.

And i remember seeing an interview where it was mentioned that the cockpit and rear view mirror were removed / "sacrificed" due to wanting to up the graphics detail over previous games on aging console hardware.(makes you wonder why the pc version doesn't include them then)

 

[Zanovar]

I think would kick nottys arse cockpit or not

 

[notty22]

Pinks !

 

[Zanovar]

Pinks !

 

[amenx]

Reminds me of the days when a Radeon 9600XT was beating the FX5900 in HL2 :awe:

Those cards were practically irrelevant when HL2 came out. Both Nvidia and ATI had newer gen cards when HL2 was out.

 

[SolMiester]

A racing game of all things should have a cockpit view...unless they want to market it as purely an arcade game.

+1