HomerJS
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You think BLM are terrorist because they support treating black lives like they matter. Oh and because Tucker Carlson told you
You think BLM are terrorist because they support treating black lives like they matter. Oh and because Tucker Carlson told you
Muse
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I will take your sheep for it... I have him on Ignore.
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brandonbull thinks BLM is a terrorist organization?
Why? Because most participants in its street marches or protests are Black?
I'm glad he didn't glimpse me on telecasts amid the massive protest march over the February 4, 1999 killing of unarmed African immigrant Amadou Diallo.
He would label me a terrorist, too.
Amadou was confronted by four undercover White cops who thought he looked suspicious on the steps of his own apartment building in the Bronx. They later claimed the immigrant from Guinea resembled a rape suspect wanted for over a year.
Not understanding what these four White men wanted, Amadou pulled his wallet out of his back pocket to show his I.D. One cop yelled "gun" and together, the cops unloaded 41 bullets at Diallo. Nineteen struck him. He was slaughtered.
It was a series of unjustified killings such as Diallo which eventually led to the creation of Black Lives Matter.
www.amadoudiallo.com
Why? Because most participants in its street marches or protests are Black?
I'm glad he didn't glimpse me on telecasts amid the massive protest march over the February 4, 1999 killing of unarmed African immigrant Amadou Diallo.
He would label me a terrorist, too.
Amadou was confronted by four undercover White cops who thought he looked suspicious on the steps of his own apartment building in the Bronx. They later claimed the immigrant from Guinea resembled a rape suspect wanted for over a year.
Not understanding what these four White men wanted, Amadou pulled his wallet out of his back pocket to show his I.D. One cop yelled "gun" and together, the cops unloaded 41 bullets at Diallo. Nineteen struck him. He was slaughtered.
It was a series of unjustified killings such as Diallo which eventually led to the creation of Black Lives Matter.
About Amadou
Timeline Of Amadou Diallo Amadou Bailo Diallo was born in Liberia on September 2, 1975. He was the eldest of four children born to Kadiatou Diallo and Amadou Saikou Diallo. He is survived by one sister, Laouratou Diallo, and two brothers, Ibrahim, and
That reminded me I haven't heard this song in years and yearsbrandonbull thinks BLM is a terrorist organization?
Why? Because most participants in its street marches or protests are Black?
I'm glad he didn't glimpse me on telecasts amid the massive protest march over the February 4, 1999 killing of unarmed African immigrant Amadou Diallo.
He would label me a terrorist, too.
Amadou was confronted by four undercover White cops who thought he looked suspicious on the steps of his own apartment building in the Bronx. They later claimed the immigrant from Guinea resembled a rape suspect wanted for over a year.
Not understanding what these four White men wanted, Amadou pulled his wallet out of his back pocket to show his I.D. One cop yelled "gun" and together, the cops unloaded 41 bullets at Diallo. Nineteen struck him. He was slaughtered.
It was a series of unjustified killings such as Diallo which eventually led to the creation of Black Lives Matter.
About Amadou
Timeline Of Amadou Diallo Amadou Bailo Diallo was born in Liberia on September 2, 1975. He was the eldest of four children born to Kadiatou Diallo and Amadou Saikou Diallo. He is survived by one sister, Laouratou Diallo, and two brothers, Ibrahim, and
Edit: and listening to the above reminded me immediately of
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What motivated me to attend the protest were two elderly White women who were in a bodega on 14th Street in Manhattan. They happened to be standing next to a poster of Amadou and one of them was crying softly in grief over his death.
I went up to them and stood there for a minute. Their sadness was genuine.
Angered by the realization that NYPD's Street Crime Unit could get away with anything, I showed up at Rev. Al Sharpton's protest speech outside the U.N. It was a huge crowd. What I recall the most was this tall man wearing a Star of David with his young son perched atop his shoulders standing next to me.
The boy gave me a high five. I thanked the man for coming. He smiled and said: "This won't work if it's just Black people protesting."
Fearing violence, Rev. Sharpton asked us in the crowd not to march down to City Hall. But the NYPD was prepared and we were thoroughly pissed. The police had personnel at cross streets and communicated with march organizers by walkie talkie all the way south to City Hall. We screamed our heads off.
To this day, I remember the chant:
Police Training One oh One
It's a wallet - not a gun!
The plainclothes Street Crime Unit was eventually disbanded. The four cops were acquitted a year later and I recall two joined the Fire Dept. Only one seemed to be remorseful.
Snuffing out the life of a promising young Black man meant little to racists everywhere back then.
Just as it does today.
I went up to them and stood there for a minute. Their sadness was genuine.
Angered by the realization that NYPD's Street Crime Unit could get away with anything, I showed up at Rev. Al Sharpton's protest speech outside the U.N. It was a huge crowd. What I recall the most was this tall man wearing a Star of David with his young son perched atop his shoulders standing next to me.
The boy gave me a high five. I thanked the man for coming. He smiled and said: "This won't work if it's just Black people protesting."
Fearing violence, Rev. Sharpton asked us in the crowd not to march down to City Hall. But the NYPD was prepared and we were thoroughly pissed. The police had personnel at cross streets and communicated with march organizers by walkie talkie all the way south to City Hall. We screamed our heads off.
To this day, I remember the chant:
Police Training One oh One
It's a wallet - not a gun!
The plainclothes Street Crime Unit was eventually disbanded. The four cops were acquitted a year later and I recall two joined the Fire Dept. Only one seemed to be remorseful.
Snuffing out the life of a promising young Black man meant little to racists everywhere back then.
Just as it does today.
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3 more men have been found guilty for the kidnapping plot and more. Paul Bellar, Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico were found guilty of ''providing material support for a terrorist act" (up to 20 yrs for that one), as well as "gang membership and felony possession of a firearm." Sentencing Dec 15.
www.cnn.com
3 more men found guilty in Whitmer kidnapping plot | CNN Politics
A jury in Michigan has found three men guilty of providing material support for a terrorist act and two other state charges related to the 2020 plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer.
woolfe9998
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The leader of the plot got 16 years.
www.cnn.com
Convicted leader of plot to kidnap Michigan governor sentenced to 16 years in federal prison | CNN Politics
A Michigan federal judge sentenced a man convicted of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to 16 years in prison Tuesday.
The leader of the plot got 16 years.
Convicted leader of plot to kidnap Michigan governor sentenced to 16 years in federal prison | CNN Politics
A Michigan federal judge sentenced a man convicted of plotting to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer to 16 years in prison Tuesday.
It was just a joke, followed by recon and a plan, but still just a joke. /s
Brainonska511
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The leader of the plot fucked around, now he's finding out in a big way.
16 years in prison is a pretty long time; even with the good behavior credit, he'd still have to serve nearly 14 years in federal prison.
Muse
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It's the kind of crime you have to send a message, don't even think about it, you're fucking up your life planning stuff like that, especially if you get anywhere near executing it.
Brainonska511
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I'm pretty sure 14-16 years in prison "fucks up your life" plenty.
Historically speaking, I don't think excessive sentences do a great job of "sending a message".
VashHT
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Yeah as much as I think this guy deserves punishment the ultimate goal of prison should be rehabilitation. Americans mostly seem to be obsessed with the punishment though, to the point where they take glee in prison rape and shit like that.
Drach
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Negative. This is an excellent message to people that this kind of shit won't be tolerated.
Personally I think the message should have been stronger.
woolfe9998
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At minimum, I want to see someone that dangerous taken off the board until he's too old and decrepit to be a danger to society after he gets out. Adam Fox is 39 years old. After time off for good behavior (2 yrs) and credit for time served (18 months), he'll be out of jail when he's 52. That's too young.
That said, 16 years is a comparatively high sentence for what they call an inchoate crime: one which was planned but never carried out. In the absence of physical harm, typically you get 10 yrs or less, no matter how heinous was the thing you were planning.
That said, 16 years is a comparatively high sentence for what they call an inchoate crime: one which was planned but never carried out. In the absence of physical harm, typically you get 10 yrs or less, no matter how heinous was the thing you were planning.
HomerJS
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Weren’t we told by some members of this forum this story was fake news?
Should we wait for their corrections??
Should we wait for their corrections??
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Muse
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OK, since you reference history, can you elaborate?
The prosecution wanted a lot more, a life sentence.
Brainonska511
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See the death penalty for sentences that don't send messages of deterrence.
And prosecutors always seem to push for harsher sentences - it doesn't mean that we need to treat that view as gospel.
Muse
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This isn't somebody with a homicidal complex. These are people who carefully plot political insurrection and in this case involving planned abduction and likely assassination. Very very different. They become heroes in their own minds in doing so, but thoughts that if it doesn't work out Plan B is likely nil would deter such things springing up in the future. If you just give them 3 years they can think they'll have a life after failure. 20+ years in the clink if it falls through would deter many from even dreaming of cooking up something like this.
VashHT
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Definitely not saying this guy shouldn't have been punished, more of an overall observation on how we forget the rehab part in this country.
Brainonska511
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Except they didn't get some slap on the wrist 3 years - the leader got 16 years. That's 16 years of lost income, lost family time, lost social time...
And I doubt that people that are interested in overthrowing a lawfully elected government are really worried about the consequences. Part of their issue is that they didn't see the governor's actions as lawfully, which in the American myth means that "patriots" should stand up to tyranny, even if it is through violence and receiving the ultimate consequence of death.
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Adam Fox got 16 years and today Barry Croft Jr was sentenced to 235 months in federal prison as another leader of the plot against Whitmer.
woolfe9998
Lifer
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Indeed. What is it with these extremists and beards? Clearly it isn't just Muslims. I guess to be a manly man you must have prominent facial hair, and they all really want to think of themselves as manly men. And of course there are those surrogate pensises they like to tote around to complete the manly ensemble.
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