Green VS Black

[Tarrant64]

Originally posted by: Blain
I'm a "Black" owner, mine is very quiet.
Maybe you received a defective drive... WD has a good RMA program.

I had no problems with their RMA program except the fact it took a week to get my replacement hard drive. I would have been OK with 2-3 days, but a week?

I had purchased a 1TB WD "Black" drive, failed after 1 week. Have the new one now and I'm pleased with it. Quiet too.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: Blain

Originally posted by: taltamir
the green are the cheapest per GB on the market.
Which makes them very attractive if you are building a Redunant Array of INEXPENSIVE Drives.

We've all heard that one before...
But what if the goal is to build a "Redundant Array of INDEPENENT Disks? :laugh:

then you are a heratic and should expect the inquisition of the church of inexpensive raid.

Speaking of, how exactly is raid0 raid? there is no redundancy.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: yh125d

Originally posted by: taltamir
the green are the cheapest per GB on the market. Which makes them very attractive if you are building a Redunant Array of INEXPENSIVE Drives.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822152102

Cheaper per GB than any green drive, while being as fast as the black series. I'm picking up a few more soon

actually that one is more expensive than this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822145233

Due to having to pay shipping...

When I bought them they were the cheapest, now they are not, but they are still the cheapest from WD.

 

[Blain]

Originally posted by: taltamir
Speaking of, how exactly is raid0 raid? there is no redundancy.

RAID 0 is an enigma in the storage world.

 

[VaultDweller]

Originally posted by: yh125d

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822152102

Cheaper per GB than any green drive, while being as fast as the black series. I'm picking up a few more soon

And just as quiet as the Green drives, too.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: yh125d

Originally posted by: taltamir
the green are the cheapest per GB on the market. Which makes them very attractive if you are building a Redunant Array of INEXPENSIVE Drives.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822152102

Cheaper per GB than any green drive, while being as fast as the black series. I'm picking up a few more soon

actually that one is more expensive than this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16822145233

Due to having to pay shipping...

When I bought them they were the cheapest, now they are not, but they are still the cheapest from WD.

Are you serious with the shipping? ugh

It's still cheaper per GB than any green drive like I said, while being as fast as the black drives. And as vaultdweller pointed out, about as quiet as the greens

 

[TidusZ]

The black probably uses what, 8.4 watts read/write? My video card uses 300 watts. The lights in my room despite being fluorescent use ~60 watts. Selling an energy efficient hard drive is like selling non-fat sugar, sounds great but its really a lot of bullshit. I'll take the better performance please, thanks.

Edit: Source http://techreport.com/articles.x/15363

Oh, and no, the samsung f1 is not as fast as the Black, it is most definitely slower. Show me a slew of benchmarks showing differently and I'll change my mind, but I've seen enough showing that I'm right to be confident in my stance.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: TidusZ
The black probably uses what, 8.4 watts read/write? My video card uses 300 watts. The lights in my room despite being fluorescent use ~60 watts. Selling an energy efficient hard drive is like selling non-fat sugar, sounds great but its really a lot of bullshit. I'll take the better performance please, thanks.

Edit: Source http://techreport.com/articles.x/15363

Oh, and no, the samsung f1 is not as fast as the Black, it is most definitely slower. Show me a slew of benchmarks showing differently and I'll change my mind, but I've seen enough showing that I'm right to be confident in my stance.

Your own linked article shows the F1 trading blows with the Black. Black wins some, F1 wins some, ties come often. How is the f1 "definitely slower"?

Again, trading blows

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: Blain
I'm a "Black" owner, mine is very quiet.
Maybe you received a defective drive... WD has a good RMA program.

My Black is very quiet as well but maybe it's due to my Antec case with the special HD cases.

 

[F1shF4t]

Originally posted by: TidusZ
The black probably uses what, 8.4 watts read/write? My video card uses 300 watts. The lights in my room despite being fluorescent use ~60 watts. Selling an energy efficient hard drive is like selling non-fat sugar, sounds great but its really a lot of bullshit. I'll take the better performance please, thanks.

Things do add up you know. If your going to purchase 1000 of these and say the green drives only use 4 watts instead of 8, thats 4kW saving right there.

So how many HDDs are bought every year globaly?

 

[TheInternal]

I do a lot of my research at SPCR before doing builds too. I'm currently looking to get a new main HD, after a 1.5 TB Seagate from newegg croaked in less than 24 hours... well, okay, it wasn't TOTALLY dead, but it was making what sounded like physical impact clicks, failing seagate's own SMART diagnostic, and was slower than molasses.

I wonder if the WD Black 1 TB would be quiet enough for my near silent Antec p180b build. My current hard drive is the only real audible part in my computer

Case: Antec P180b (cooled by three 120 mm case fans)
PSU: Corsair HX620W modular PSU
Motherboard: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 x2 4400+ (passively cooled by Scythe Ninja heatsink)
RAM: 2 x 1 GB Corsair XMS DDR 400 at 3-3-3-8 (auto SPD timings)
GPUs: 2 x XFX 7950 GT eXtreme 512 MB in SLI (passively cooled by manufacturer heatspreaders)
Sound Card: Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro
Optical Drives: Samsung SH233Q DVD-RW, Samsung SH233Q DVD-RW(though I still haven't solved a problem with them.)
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar SE16 320 GB SATA
OS: Windows XP Media Center 2002 SP3

I use mah rig for a little bit of everything; gaming, video, internet, BOINCing, graphic design

 

[Blain]

techboie, are you ever going to comment in this thread that you created?
Did you return the 16MB HD that you didn't ask for?

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: TidusZ
The black probably uses what, 8.4 watts read/write? My video card uses 300 watts. The lights in my room despite being fluorescent use ~60 watts. Selling an energy efficient hard drive is like selling non-fat sugar, sounds great but its really a lot of bullshit. I'll take the better performance please, thanks.
.

bingo... but the noise and price are useful

 

[zinfamous]

Ah, son of a ---! Wish I stumbled upon this topic yesterday before ordering one for the lab. I haven't followed the latest trends in HDD technology, so I never really knew what the green designation actually meant. I ordered 2 1TB drives to set up a shared lab server for our data. We want to RAID them for instant backup purposes. The other drive I ordered is a 7200rpm Hitachi, and I had no idea that the 7200rpm for the Green as advertised on Newegg was not to be trusted. I wanted the black but they weren't currently available.

Gah! I'm assuming I will not be able to Mirror the Green with the Hitachi?

 

[taltamir]

sure you can. a mirror is only as fast as its slowest drive (writing), and usually as fast reading as the speed of drive a + drive b. there is no reason not to mirror them and it might not even impact performance TOO much... the RPM are not the ONLY determinant of speed anyways. It is like mhz for a CPU, a higher mhz CPU will be faster than ITSELF at a lower mhz... but clock per clock newer/higher quality hardware is faster...

 

[bryanl]

I don't understand how a green can be much slower when 5400 RPM is only 33% less than 7200 RPM. Is 33% much?

 

[Blain]

Would you complain if your car got 33% less MPG?
But that's beside the point that pure rpm measurement doesn't correlate 1:1 with HD performance. :roll:


BTW, Here's a little project for you...
Find laptop owners that have upgraded from 5400rpm HDs to 7200rpm models.
Ask them if they noticed a significant performance gain.

 

[yh125d]

Originally posted by: Blain
Would you complain if your car got 33% less MPG?
But that's beside the point that pure rpm measurement doesn't correlate 1:1 with HD performance. :roll:


BTW, Here's a little project for you...
Find laptop owners that have upgraded from 5400rpm HDs to 7200rpm models.
Ask them if they noticed a significant performance gain.

Yes we have. I still need to get around to putting a 7200 in my XPS...

 

[Jessica69]

Was messing around at Storage Review..........comparing some drives........interesting stats on them:

http://www.storagereview.com/p...1&devID_4=352&devCnt=5