Green Tea drinkers of ATOT: is it really this magical?

[RearAdmiral]

Bought a temperature controlled kettle the other day! What temp do you use for green?

I just follow the buttons on my kettle. 175f is green. There are settings for delicate, white, oolong, french press, and boil. The sweetness from green tea on a lower temp is pretty noticeable.

 

[Scarpozzi]

No doubt about that!

Main problem with Coke isn't the caffeine it's the huge quantities of sugar and/or disgusting chemical artificial sweeteners.

I drink both tea and coffee frequently ... my preference is black tea though. Twinings "China-Oolong" most of the time with just a spoon of honey.


You realize even green tea does have some caffeine? Insufficient quantity to stave off a caffeine/coffee withdrawal headache IME though.

I drink coke on occasion and mix it with Maker's Mark/rum sometimes.

In 2015, I switched over to black coffee to cut calories out of my diet for marathon training. Basically, I was shaving off every last calorie I could to cut weight and actually prefer black coffee now. Around that time, I did the same thing with tea and no longer used sugar or artificial sweeteners. My preference is Luzianne iced tea, which is black tea.

I do occasionally drink green tea and used to get it with Sushi on occasion, but unsweet Luzianne is my favorite for quenching thirst. I usually make it by the gallon in the Summers for bbq's.

 

[manlymatt83]

I just follow the buttons on my kettle. 175f is green. There are settings for delicate, white, oolong, french press, and boil. The sweetness from green tea on a lower temp is pretty noticeable.

Good to know! Thank you! I’ve been doing it wrong, my water is usually close to boiling. How long do you steep?

 

[RearAdmiral]

Good to know! Thank you! I’ve been doing it wrong, my water is usually close to boiling. How long do you steep?

Heh I also just follow the label here, but I do tend to buy large bulk bags on amazon which are sometimes lacking in specific instructions as opposed to a tea bag...Davidson's tea I think? If I'm not paying attention I shoot for 3 minutes as a standard. Otherwise I don't think I've seen a green tea outside the 3-5 range. My kettle is probably not super accurate so if you want to do some taste testing/experiments definitely use a thermometer for your notes. The bulk loose tea is nice as you can make large cups of it without needing to use multiple bags and all that, or a strong tasting standardish size.

I try to whip up a nice cup or two for people who ask for it at my house once they see my giant bags. They are usually surprised that green tea doesn't taste like burnt dirt.

 

[kage69]

water coffee and booze. The only liquids I need. I dislike tea. It is so useless. no drugs and not as satiating as water. what's the point?

Reduces risk of of cardio vascular disease and strokes, helps prevent a slew of different cancers (prostate being among them), can reduce blood sugar levels when consumed daily, and apparently it is credited with being able to extend your life 1.2 years.

Booze will accelerate how old you look, one of the reasons I quit years ago (apart from it making me feel like crap later). Alcohol does a good job of depleting vitamins from your body, and that adds up fast if you are old enough to not be producing your own collagen anymore.

I wish I could guzzle water all damn day like everyone else seems to, for some reason it's always a slog for me.

 

[kage69]

I went and looked, what I remembered about green tea only scratched the surface! Some claims are on the money, some are bogus or might just apply more to Asian groups, who consume a lot more than Americans.

I like this guy

more chemistry emphasis in this one

 

[manlymatt83]

Reduces risk of of cardio vascular disease and strokes, helps prevent a slew of different cancers (prostate being among them), can reduce blood sugar levels when consumed daily, and apparently it is credited with being able to extend your life 1.2 years.

Booze will accelerate how old you look, one of the reasons I quit years ago (apart from it making me feel like crap later). Alcohol does a good job of depleting vitamins from your body, and that adds up fast if you are old enough to not be producing your own collagen anymore.

I wish I could guzzle water all damn day like everyone else seems to, for some reason it's always a slog for me.

Interesting. Did you quit booze entirely? I’ve thought about giving up cocktails entirely, and maybe just having a whiskey once per year (if I could actually pull that off). Maybe I really should look into giving it all up, as I’m approaching 40 and definitely still drink too much some times.

But even then, I think I’d have a harder time giving up wine or Guinness. Though something makes me think there’s a big difference between a 100 calorie Guinness and a whiskey sugar cocktail (like an old fashioned). Maybe I’m wrong.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I sometimes wonder if I should slow down or quit coffee as it turns out I clench my teeth in my sleep which is causing me all sorts of issues such as jaw pain and I'm stuck having to use a mouth guard now which SUCKS. Caffeine can be a potential cause of that from what I read. From some research I've found that camomile tea is known to act as a muscle relaxant so I'd be curious to try it.

I love my coffee though... but if I can acquire the taste for tea it would be something I'd be willing to try especially if it can actually have some health benefits.

 

[manlymatt83]

I sometimes wonder if I should slow down or quit coffee as it turns out I clench my teeth in my sleep which is causing me all sorts of issues such as jaw pain and I'm stuck having to use a mouth guard now which SUCKS. Caffeine can be a potential cause of that from what I read. From some research I've found that camomile tea is known to act as a muscle relaxant so I'd be curious to try it.

I love my coffee though... but if I can acquire the taste for tea it would be something I'd be willing to try especially if it can actually have some health benefits.

Curious, how’s your airway? This coming from someone who is just about to have his second jaw surgery, but so much of this all is related.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Curious, how’s your airway? This coming from someone who is just about to have his second jaw surgery, but so much of this all is related.

Not sure. I do want to see a doc for a 2nd opinion on this jaw thing as the mouth guard is not a cure, it's just a bandage. I just hope I don't end up needing a cpap or something like that... that would royally suck. The mouth guard is bad enough. I just hope all this can be solved with some kind of life style change or surgery and I can be back to normal without needing anything invasive in/on me.

 

[manlymatt83]

Not sure. I do want to see a doc for a 2nd opinion on this jaw thing as the mouth guard is not a cure, it's just a bandage. I just hope I don't end up needing a cpap or something like that... that would royally suck. The mouth guard is bad enough. I just hope all this can be solved with some kind of life style change or surgery and I can be back to normal without needing anything invasive in/on me.

There are non-surgical options, but it really all depends... at the end of the day some things could be bandaid workarounds. I may sound crazy but that's only because I didn't realize how bad my teeth grinding/breathing/bite was until after I had the first surgery, it was night and day. This has been my journey thus far: instagram.com/midlifefacecrisis

What area of the country are you in? I can probably suggest someone to go to who will give you an honest opinion and won't just sell you a surgical option for the sake of it.

 

[Red Squirrel]

There are non-surgical options, but it really all depends... at the end of the day some things could be bandaid workarounds. I may sound crazy but that's only because I didn't realize how bad my teeth grinding/breathing/bite was until after I had the first surgery, it was night and day. This has been my journey thus far: instagram.com/midlifefacecrisis

What area of the country are you in? I can probably suggest someone to go to who will give you an honest opinion and won't just sell you a surgical option for the sake of it.

So the surgery fixed it? I would much prefer surgery over being stuck with the nightguard or a cpap or something else like that for rest of my life. So it's good to know it might be an option. I will of course need to see a doctor to find out what needs to be done, but I do hope surgery will be the answer. Hope I don't end up stuck with braces though... that's even worse than night guard since you're stuck with that for a long time then need retainer for rest of your life right?

 

[manlymatt83]

So the surgery fixed it? I would much prefer surgery over being stuck with the nightguard or a cpap or something else like that for rest of my life. So it's good to know it might be an option. I will of course need to see a doctor to find out what needs to be done, but I do hope surgery will be the answer. Hope I don't end up stuck with braces though... that's even worse than night guard since you're stuck with that for a long time then need retainer for rest of your life right?

Yes, the surgery fixed it!

This is my doctor, he's awesome: https://www.drwalkerortho.com/airway-orthodontics/for-adults/ ... highly recommend skimming the info on his site. I didn't have sleep apnea, but I 100% had airway issues (and a small upper palette) which were causing me to grind my teeth.

It's quite sad that only some orthodontists understand the issues with airways / jaws and focus only on straightening teeth. My friend who is a dentist just quit her job as a dentist to go back to school (orthodontic residency) to learn about it because of how passionate she is about the misinformation out there.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Yes, the surgery fixed it!

This is my doctor, he's awesome: https://www.drwalkerortho.com/airway-orthodontics/for-adults/ ... highly recommend skimming the info on his site. I didn't have sleep apnea, but I 100% had airway issues (and a small upper palette) which were causing me to grind my teeth.

It's quite sad that only some orthodontists understand the issues with airways / jaws and focus only on straightening teeth. My friend who is a dentist just quit her job as a dentist to go back to school (orthodontic residency) to learn about it because of how passionate she is about the misinformation out there.

That's good to know it's an option! I'm sure they will push for non surgical options but I'll just have to try to push to get referred to someone that will provide more permanent fix instead of a bandaid. But back to more original topic I will try some natural stuff first in hope it might help, like the tea or even CBD oil. If CBD works I'll want to grow/make my own though as it can get expensive to buy it. Unless I can get a prescription for it.

 

[highland145]

Two to three months without coffee and I'd be barking mad. It's also the only bad habit I have left. You know what happens when you run out of things to give up? You KILL PEOPLE.

fixed

 

[ponyo]

Two to three months without coffee and I'd be barking mad. It's also the only bad habit I have left. You know what happens when you run out of things to give up? You DIE.

I tried quitting coffee and could've done it. I stopped drinking it for couple of months. Then I asked myself what's the point? As long as I'm not abusing coffee, why stop when I enjoy drinking it? So I went back to drinking coffee.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Decided to buy some Green Tea and Cammomile which apparently is a good relaxant. I actually don't mind it! I often crave coffee mid/end day which is something I try to avoid now due to the caffeine so instead I can have the tea which depending on the kind is going to have low caffeine I think. Just need to find a place to buy it loose as I don't like the idea of the pouches, probably not great for the environment. Found a site that does sell it loose, and it's kinda funny browsing through the different kinds, it's almost like the weed sites lol.

I'm not quitting coffee any time soon but I have been cutting back so the tea will fill in that craving for a warm drink mid/end of day.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I too am among the coffee + tea = great crowd.

I like green tea quite a bit. (either tea bags, loose tea, or matcha)
I love oolong teas.
I think my favorite tea is Pu-erh tea.
Otherwise, i also am very fond of a good strong cup of Assam tea (or any sort of breakfast tea with a healthy amount of assam for earthy goodness, Stash's "Super Irish Breakfast Tea" is bomb diggity)
Flavored teas are good too, Earl Grey is always appreciated.
Lapsang Suochong is really quite interesting from time to time.
Yerba Mate is good stuff.
Stash's "Matcha Mate" blend is one of my favorite teas.

I split my 10 cup coffee pot with me wife, usually, we only make 1 pot each day. Note, its only 50oz, which last time i checked is actually about 6 cups, or, around 4 mugs worth of coffee ....

 

[Exterous]

I like black tea more than green personally. Supposedly not quite as healthy so I still drink green occasionally. As for coffee every couple of weeks I'll get a black coffee from somewhere but it's only on rare occasions now

 

[lxskllr]

I'd have to go through them all again, but I seem to remember favoring oolong. More flavor than green, but not as many tannins as black, so it's easier to drink large quantities.

 

[Zeze]

Isn't caffeine caffeine - coffee or not?

I prefer tea because they're far more drinkable/sippable than the heavier/stronger coffee.

 

[IronWing]

I had some gunpowder green tea this morning, definitely has more caffeine than in my normal morning DMD.

 

[PingSpike]

I hate green tea generally. It usually tastes like grass.

But there's this ginger green tea that is great. The ginger must overpower the grass, helps when my stomach is a bit upset and has a pleasant flavor.

I've had the gunpowder green, that is the worst tasting green I think I've had.

 

[Mai72]

i like it.