Greedy People

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Who the fuck carries > $5000 worth of stuff on a plane with them? Especially NYC to Charlotte. Plus, it's for the insurance companies to decide what each lost item was worth. These people who want more than $5k are being greedy pigs and nothing more. More money won't just make your mental fears of flying miraculously disappear.

Laptop, dSLR + a lens or two, clothing, etc...

And you'd be in the extreme minority who will be getting extra compensation from the insurance company. The majority would no doubt be business men/women whose computer equipment is owned by their company, and their own material losses might amount to a few hundred dollars in clothes and luggage.

which is exactly what the op is about. gg reading comprehesion

No, the OP is about people who want more than $5k for "PTSD." It specifically says in the article:

US Airways Vice President Jim Olson says that an insurance claims specialist is contacting passengers and that they'll be reimbursed for expenses or losses above $5,000.

Translation: US Airways' insurance company will reimbursing the extreme minority I was talking about for anything worth more than $5k.

gg reading comprehension.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Who the fuck carries > $5000 worth of stuff on a plane with them? Especially NYC to Charlotte. Plus, it's for the insurance companies to decide what each lost item was worth. These people who want more than $5k are being greedy pigs and nothing more. More money won't just make your mental fears of flying miraculously disappear.

Laptop, dSLR + a lens or two, clothing, etc...

And you'd be in the extreme minority who will be getting extra compensation from the insurance company. The majority would no doubt be business men/women whose computer equipment is owned by their company, and their own material losses might amount to a few hundred dollars in clothes and luggage.

I was answering your question. I don't think it's an "extreme minority" that travels with that much stuff.

 

[Fern]

$5K?

Seems a bit weak to me for all that these poeple went through.

I think millions etc is way too much, but $5K?

Fern

 

[babylon5]

I think even $5K X 2 might be reasonable if people do lost more than 5K of stuff....but sounds like a few of them wants million figure. In that case, that is just pure greed. If it goes to trial, hope the jury have enough sense to strike these greedy people (and their fat cat lawyers) down.

 

[dahunan]

What about the scheduling of lives many of these people had to go through to even make plans to fly and now that opportunity may never present itself for a long time

How about the stress and scheduling and massive inconvenience and trauma they dealt with after shitting in their pants when the plane crashed ??

$5000 is a joke.. monopoly money..

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
I don't think that it is fair to set an arbitrary cap on damages to $5k. Each case should be individually determined on the merits of what was lost, and to that effect each passenger should be entitled to full compensatory damages. These include airfare for the flight, destroyed luggage (which can get expensive w/ electronics), medical bills, etc. I do not think that the passengers should be entitled to any punitive damages though as the airline seemed to do everything right given the situation.

I agree that the airline should refund the cost of airfare since the service wasn't provided, but have you concluded that the lost property and medical bills are any responsibility of theirs?

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Originally posted by: CPA
The need to sue the birds, not the airline.

Sue the Canadians since it was their geese.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: dahunan
What about the scheduling of lives many of these people had to go through to even make plans to fly and now that opportunity may never present itself for a long time

How about the stress and scheduling and massive inconvenience and trauma they dealt with after shitting in their pants when the plane crashed ??

$5000 is a joke.. monopoly money..

If I rented a house from you and wound up in the traumatic experience of having it swept up from around me by a tornado, what all do you think you'd owe me for?

I'd demand the remainder of my month's rent refunded along with whatever deposit I might have made, but don't see how one could rightly argue you would owe me anything more than that.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Who the fuck carries > $5000 worth of stuff on a plane with them? Especially NYC to Charlotte. Plus, it's for the insurance companies to decide what each lost item was worth. These people who want more than $5k are being greedy pigs and nothing more. More money won't just make your mental fears of flying miraculously disappear.

Laptop, dSLR + a lens or two, clothing, etc...

And you'd be in the extreme minority who will be getting extra compensation from the insurance company. The majority would no doubt be business men/women whose computer equipment is owned by their company, and their own material losses might amount to a few hundred dollars in clothes and luggage.

which is exactly what the op is about. gg reading comprehesion

No, the OP is about people who want more than $5k for "PTSD." It specifically says in the article:

US Airways Vice President Jim Olson says that an insurance claims specialist is contacting passengers and that they'll be reimbursed for expenses or losses above $5,000.

Translation: US Airways' insurance company will reimbursing the extreme minority I was talking about for anything worth more than $5k.

gg reading comprehension.

There is no insurance company

 

[cyclohexane]

this country has turned into a place full of shit brained whiners.
This was not the airline's fault. Greedy bastards.

 

[eddiebravo]

jesus, i wouldnt have even expected the 5k. just walking out of that crash should be more than enough to satisfy anyone.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Who the fuck carries > $5000 worth of stuff on a plane with them? Especially NYC to Charlotte. Plus, it's for the insurance companies to decide what each lost item was worth. These people who want more than $5k are being greedy pigs and nothing more. More money won't just make your mental fears of flying miraculously disappear.

laptop, suit, luggage, camera, phone, etc, can quickly run into the multiple thousands.

Maybe, but I suspect people who carry that much stuff onto a plane are in the extreme minority. Hearing some anecdote from someone who takes their entire collection of professional photography equipment on the plane with them doesn't really change that. People should be compensated for their lost belongings (whatever the price), and some extra for their massive inconvenience. But honestly...it was a freak accident that they were lucky to survive thanks to the skill of a pilot employed by the airline they are trying to extort. Being greedy looks pretty stupid if you ask me...

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot


No way man, these guys should be paying the airline for not killing them. That pilot did such a great job, they owe him (and the airline)

Exactly!

Whenever I have a chance, while boarding the aircraft, I slip a $100 bill to the pilot with a note "please don't kill me."

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: waggy
well if you lost more then $5k why would you settle for 5k?

Come to think of it, when the stock market crashed, that was a pretty traumatic experience for me and I lost more than $5k.

Can I sue Fannie Mae now?

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Don't know about emotional damage, but if people had more than 5K of baggage, they should be compensated.

Why? If they were concerned, they should have gotten insurance.

/edit: One additional question. For everyone who thinks that ANYONE on the plane deserves a bigger check--do you believe in socialized medicine?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Who the fuck carries > $5000 worth of stuff on a plane with them? Especially NYC to Charlotte. Plus, it's for the insurance companies to decide what each lost item was worth. These people who want more than $5k are being greedy pigs and nothing more. More money won't just make your mental fears of flying miraculously disappear.

Laptops and camera equipment.

 

[Farang]

Dumbfucks. There are a few things we can learn from this incident, all of which back US Airways not having to give passengers one penny.

1) US Airways is good enough in its hiring practices to hire a pilot like the Captain who brought this plane down, and good enough in their operations to team their rookie pilots with the likes of him.
2) Uncontrollable events can bring down an airplane, for example birds well outside the airport. Birds do indeed exist. Complaints here should go to LaGuardia first, if anywhere.
3) US Airways specified which type of plane was being used for this flight before passengers bought their tickets, so US Airways cannot be blamed for a Boeing jet not being able to handle a flock of birds going into its engines. The passengers accepted that risk when they boarded. This complaint should go to Boeing first, if anywhere.

I hope the amount they sue for gets turned around and charged to them--if that is what they deemed the value of their life, they should pay US Airways for saving it.

 

[rudder]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Who the fuck carries > $5000 worth of stuff on a plane with them? Especially NYC to Charlotte. Plus, it's for the insurance companies to decide what each lost item was worth. These people who want more than $5k are being greedy pigs and nothing more. More money won't just make your mental fears of flying miraculously disappear.

You can have 1 camera body and 1 lens and that could easily be over $5000. But really, I would take this up with the airline myself and not whine and cry to the media.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Farang
Dumbfucks. There are a few things we can learn from this incident, all of which back US Airways not having to give passengers one penny.

1) US Airways is good enough in its hiring practices to hire a pilot like the Captain who brought this plane down, and good enough in their operations to team their rookie pilots with the likes of him.
2) Uncontrollable events can bring down an airplane, for example birds well outside the airport. Birds do indeed exist. Complaints here should go to LaGuardia first, if anywhere.
3) US Airways specified which type of plane was being used for this flight before passengers bought their tickets, so US Airways cannot be blamed for a Boeing jet not being able to handle a flock of birds going into its engines. The passengers accepted that risk when they boarded. This complaint should go to Boeing first, if anywhere.

I hope the amount they sue for gets turned around and charged to them--if that is what they deemed the value of their life, they should pay US Airways for saving it.

Don't forget the engine suppliers of the Airbus A320 who built engines that couldn't take a flock of geese going into them:

Three suppliers provide turbofan engines for the A320 series: CFM International with their CFM56, International Aero Engines, offering the V2500 and Pratt & Whitney whose PW6000 engines are only available for the A318 variant.

 

[Farang]

oh right, Airbus. So yea we blame the engine makers, then we go to the people who make the fin dealies in the engine, then the people who made the metal, then the people who made the stuff that makes metal (God). So they should sue God.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: rudder
You can have 1 camera body and 1 lens and that could easily be over $5000. But really, I would take this up with the airline myself and not whine and cry to the media.

Where is there any fault in anything the airline did?

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Don't forget the engine suppliers of the Airbus A320 who built engines that couldn't take a flock of geese going into them:

Can you you engines that can take a flock of geese going into them? If not, you aren't rightly in any position to criticize others for being unable to do so.

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Don't forget the engine suppliers of the Airbus A320 who built engines that couldn't take a flock of geese going into them:

Can you you engines that can take a flock of geese going into them? If not, you aren't rightly in any position to criticize others for being unable to do so.

Check your sarcasm meter. It probably needs batteries.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: CPA
The need to sue the birds, not the airline.

I'm going to have to agree with you on that one.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: TheSnowman

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
Don't forget the engine suppliers of the Airbus A320 who built engines that couldn't take a flock of geese going into them:

Can you you engines that can take a flock of geese going into them? If not, you aren't rightly in any position to criticize others for being unable to do so.

Check your sarcasm meter. It probably needs batteries.

Heh, pardon me, I was a bit drunk at the time.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: fleshconsumed
Don't know about emotional damage, but if people had more than 5K of baggage, they should be compensated.

Why? If they were concerned, they should have gotten insurance.

Your argument can very well be reversed, if airline was concerned for potential problems, they should have gotten coverage.

Passengers and airline made a contract. Passengers agreed to pay money and airline agreed to deliver them and their belongings safe and sound from place A to place B. Passengers have paid the money, however airline could deliver their end of the bargain. Therefore the least they could do is reimburse tickets (which they did) and compensate customers for their lost baggage (which they are reluctant to do).

 

[kylebisme]

Fleshconsumed, if I rented a house from you and wound up having it swept up from around me by a tornado, would you owe me for my stuff? We had a contract that I could keep my stuff in your house, but it all got swept away and trashed.