Greed and online piracy ...

[shortylickens]

I HAVE THE ANSWER.

Skip Disney. Works, eh? Like a boycott and shizzle.

They bought Fox.
They bought Marvel.
They bought Star Wars.

You can't just "Skip Disney". And the cock-suckers know it.

 

[lxskllr]

You'll never get enough people in on a boycott to matter anyway. They don't understand the issue, don't care enough, and don't have the self control to do without.

 

[highland145]

They bought Fox.
They bought Marvel.
They bought Star Wars.

You can't just "Skip Disney". And the cock-suckers know it.

Free public library...OMG, a book.

WTH is this?

 

[highland145]

@shortylickens @lxskllr and you're probably right.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Its possible to skip Disney, just not easy. Also, it might make you a pariah to all your friends.

 

[nakedfrog]

Its possible to skip Disney, just not easy. Also, it might make you a pariah to all your friends.

Heh, when I was at the doctor's office last month, someone was trying to strike up conversation, and they were incredulous at all the movies I haven't seen from the last decade.

 

[highland145]

Its possible to skip Disney, just not easy. Also, it might make you a pariah to all your friends.

What is this "friends" thing you speak of?

 

[BurnItDwn]

What is this "friends" thing you speak of?

If you dont have them, think of them kinda like extended Family members who you choose rather than determined by circumstances of birth.

 

[highland145]

If you dont have them, think of them kinda like extended Family members who you choose rather than determined by circumstances of birth.

Like you guys.

 

[lxskllr]

Heh, when I was at the doctor's office last month, someone was trying to strike up conversation, and they were incredulous at all the movies I haven't seen from the last decade.

I think you could count the movies I've seen in the last 10 years on one hand, and none of them were in a theater.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Like you guys.

Indeed, brother from another mother!

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

They bought Fox.
They bought Marvel.
They bought Star Wars.

You can't just "Skip Disney". And the cock-suckers know it.

Yes you can. Star Wars has sucked since 1980. Marvel is just the same superhero drivel everyone else makes, if you're into noise for braindead children you're covered. And Fox, the only thing they were ever good for was The Simpsons and that show is about as relevant now as Soul Train.

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

I think you could count the movies I've seen in the last 10 years on one hand, and none of them were in a theater.

I've probably watched 300 in 10 years and none of them were in a theater either. Look at the intelligence level of the people who think going to a movie theater is a positive experience and the intelligence required to enjoy most of the major releases and it's pretty easy to see the connection. There are really good movies worth watching, but almost none of them wind up in the local multi-plexes which are inevitably choked with Disney and superhero crap.

 

[VirtualLarry]

This isn't exactly piracy, is it? They bought the movie.

Inasmuch as so-called "piracy" represents Copyright Infringement (violation of copyright law), then yes, that IS "piracy".

 

[nakedfrog]

Inasmuch as so-called "piracy" represents Copyright Infringement (violation of copyright law), then yes, that IS "piracy".

I'm still going with "no" on this, but you keep your pedantry if it makes you happy.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Its possible to skip Disney, just not easy. Also, it might make you a pariah to all your friends.

I used to be a die-hard Star Wars geek. Since Disney got their hands on that property, I haven't watched a single one of the disney-fied Star Wars films. People tell me that I'm not missing much.

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm still going with "no" on this, but you keep your pedantry if it makes you happy.

Well, there's a reason that DVD case, and often, the DVD itself says right on it, "Licensed for Private Performance Only".

"Public Performance" - whether at a commercial (for pay) venue, or not, is covered separately under Copyright Law (since like, the 70s or earlier, this was not something new with the DMCA), and must be licensed. Whether that means paying a licensing fee for that particular performance, to the appropriate rights-holder (or their broker), or purchasing a monthly license from an organization that handles things (music, for example, is handled via ASCAP, I don't know the name of the one that handles AudioVisual Performances (movies)), well, basically, you have to pay for it one way or another. Simply buying the DVD isn't enough, unless you are watching it "privately", which generally means at your home, or on your PC.

 

[nakedfrog]

Well, there's a reason that DVD case, and often, the DVD itself says right on it, "Licensed for Private Performance Only".

"Public Performance" - whether at a commercial (for pay) venue, or not, is covered separately under Copyright Law (since like, the 70s or earlier, this was not something new with the DMCA), and must be licensed. Whether that means paying a licensing fee for that particular performance, to the appropriate rights-holder (or their broker), or purchasing a monthly license from an organization that handles things (music, for example, is handled via ASCAP, I don't know the name of the one that handles AudioVisual Performances (movies)), well, basically, you have to pay for it one way or another. Simply buying the DVD isn't enough, unless you are watching it "privately", which generally means at your home, or on your PC.

I'm not disputing any of that. Piracy is generally taken to mean obtaining an illegitimate copy, and this wasn't that.

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

I used to be a die-hard Star Wars geek. Since Disney got their hands on that property, I haven't watched a single one of the disney-fied Star Wars films. People tell me that I'm not missing much.

You're not missing much. To be fair, George Lucas screwed that series up long before Disney got hold of it, so it hasn't actually gone downhill. It's better now than it was in the dark days of JarJar and young Anakin, but that's not saying much.

 

[sdifox]

I think you could count the movies I've seen in the last 10 years on one hand, and none of them were in a theater.

Ew, I don't need that imagery. Keep your fapping to yourself.

 

[lxskllr]

Ew, I don't need that imagery. Keep your fapping to yourself.

At least it wasn't in a theater!

 

[OccamsToothbrush]

At least it wasn't in a theater!

Pee Wee Herman used to say that.

 

[Paladin3]

Probably one of the parents at that school work at Pixar (or a friend of a parent) and either ratted them out or advertised it to boost fundraising inadvertently ratting them out.

I've got friends who work for Disney and they enjoy paying their mortgage and bills. The company has a very serious culture of protecting the ownership/copyright of their property and most of the employees support it.

And having worked as a librarian for a public school district where part of my job was to make sure we complied with all media licencing, I constantly fought with facility who felt it was a harmless crime to violate copyright. Then a neighboring school district got a visit from two lawyers for Steven Spielberg after they showed students Schindler's List without permission. And the first thing the lawyers said was that they would have given permission without charge if the district had just asked.

I've got a pretty low opinion of most PTA parents, so this story doesn't shock me at all. One school year our PTA group ordered too many yearbooks, then accidentally spent the money before paying for them. We had to eat something like 300 books and $8,000 because of a group who's mantra is "schools need more money!"

 

[Paladin3]

The problem with copyright law is that it's owned by the rich, designed to look like fair use and protection for the little guys.

Companies like Disney decide when copyrights "expire" and enter "fair use". So then they steal all these "fair use" works and make them their own, and make sure the copyrights will never expire once in their hands. If they can't get it by "fair use" they'll find other ways to get what they want, starting with "legal" means like bullying or buyouts...if needed, I'm certain they use illegal means as well.

People get upset at companies like Apple and Nvidia for their apparent greed and "dirty" tactics... Disney is vastly more disgusting and sinister.

Copyright simply says that the person who creates a work owns that work. Or the company employing them to create that work does, baring a contract stating different. As a photographer, protecting my copyright and not allowing anyone to use my work for free puts food on the table for my family.

 

[Paladin3]

I used to be a die-hard Star Wars geek. Since Disney got their hands on that property, I haven't watched a single one of the disney-fied Star Wars films. People tell me that I'm not missing much.

I'm a Star Wars and movie fan in general. I don't see many in theaters, but have all the Star Wars to date. Disney buying the franchise didn't thrill me, but I still enjoyed them and will watch whatever else they put out. The Mandalorian was awesome.