PricklyPete
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- Sep 17, 2002
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You can assign Expose to a corner of your trackpad so that when you gesture toward that corner, it happens automatically...it's fantastic.
You can assign Expose to a corner of your trackpad so that when you gesture toward that corner, it happens automatically...it's fantastic.
i use expose in linux, i dont like the way vista does it. with compiz i set up 6 virtual desktops and do just a couple of tasks on each one, flick my wrist, and click the window i want to switch to and im good.
ive been using the 7 beta, its ok, but i still prefer a desktop with compiz/gnome
MrDudeMan
Lifer
- Jan 15, 2001
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Start bar > *. It removes the need for all of this garbage. Also, Vista does what you are jerking yourself off about. Hover over the start bar and you get mini-previews of the application while it is running. I also find it very hard to believe there is a use for spaces on a home computer for 99% of people other than being "cool."
halik
Lifer
- Oct 10, 2000
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Task bar you mean? Again that brings up the application, not show all of it's windows.
The argument for spaces is the same as for multiple monitors. If you're like the other 99% of people on this board, you do windows tech support for living and play videogames, then maybe.
I need as much real estate as I can get. Photoshop, xcode, shell, xp on vwware, VNC, scottrade etc all take up a ton of space.
Ahh yes, making Macs even easier for idiots to use.
So a feature where you have to know what an icon means in the menu bar has to be tweeked by adding a suped up version of Alt+Tab.
On Windows 7 I can just mouse over items in my taskbar and see a live preview of the app. It's linear and easier to do that, than to hunt around the screen to find the application pane you want to use.
So a feature where you have to know what an icon means in the menu bar has to be tweeked by adding a suped up version of Alt+Tab.
On Windows 7 I can just mouse over items in my taskbar and see a live preview of the app. It's linear and easier to do that, than to hunt around the screen to find the application pane you want to use.
Maybe if OS X include a taskbar like seen in, oh, every version of Windows since 95 (and Linux), they wouldn't need to have such a feature. I look at what window or app I want to bring forward in the taskbar and click on it. This is improved even further with the taskbar in Windows 7.
If you ask me, OS X is more "cool" and "flashy", but a lot less intuitive with a lot of basic OS features.
And yes...I do use both.
If you ask me, OS X is more "cool" and "flashy", but a lot less intuitive with a lot of basic OS features.
And yes...I do use both.
halik
Lifer
- Oct 10, 2000
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Think about a pop-under scenario: one big firefox window and one small one behind it. Clicking on the taskbar won't help you, since the little window is still hidden behind the big one.
People here confuse usability studies with "idiot proof". Apple spends a ton of money of UI research to come up with all these things and anyone that's ever taken a UI class will tell you the same.
Expose should be faster if my math is right, since it eliminates the need of finding the application task bar entry and then holding a mouse over it (after that the processing time is same, since you're hunting the window in the little preview pane).
My UI prof in undergrad routinely gaves us optimization homeworks, where you take a piece of an OS and evolute the processing time.
Image recognition is faster than than reading btw * (ie if i give you a list of of words one being "Firefox" vs. a list of icons)
mugs
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2003
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You mean it has the same purpose. It doesn't attempt to do anything close to the same thing.
Windows 3.0 could tile your open windows - and they would stay that way until you chose to resize them. That is not the purpose of this. This doesn't resize or reposition any of your windows. It gives you a view of all of your open windows so that you can select one to bring to the front. It is an application switcher.
The second one is pretty close assuming it's able to handle a large number of windows and you can click on the one you want. Does that work with the Windows Classic theme (or whatever they call it now)? Vista also has a feature that lets you hover over taskbar icons and it'll display a thumbnail of the window, but for some reason it doesn't work in the Windows Classic theme.
What you think is intuitive is actually learned. People get used to the way their OS works, so they equate different with inferior. It goes both ways.
mugs
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2003
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Clicking on the taskbar button would bring the small window to the front. Though I have gotten into situations where a dialog box gets hidden behind a window and I have to move or close every window to find it because it doesn't show up in the taskbar or alt-tab (and I wouldn't expect it to). This happens to me most often when I empty the recycle bin.
This is the fact that people are missing.
- Nov 30, 2005
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I work in a web shop with macs (at home I'ma pc guy) and spaces is sweet at saving many multi-monitor desktops. I often have an IDE open in one monitor and the browser in the other.
When work comes in I have to open a new IDE and browser instance, and keep it sorted by site. I sometimes have 5 sites up at the same time during the day as I get interrupted so much.
Works like a dream.
When work comes in I have to open a new IDE and browser instance, and keep it sorted by site. I sometimes have 5 sites up at the same time during the day as I get interrupted so much.
Works like a dream.
i think its pretty handy. with a flick of a wrist i can see all my desktops and all the open applications on them. if im running firefox, rhythmbox, burning a cd, pidgin, packet tracer, a document/pdf/etc, i dont want them all on one desktop and minimized or stacked or whatever. i have a 1080P 23" LCD and i still dont want all that on one screen.
so i set up a few virtual desktops and use 3 or 4 at a time, maybe more. flick my wrist and i see *everything* i have going on at once. its quite nice for multitasking.
- Nov 30, 2005
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I guess I just never have that many things going on. A few windows at a time, but not anything that needs special organization.
KT
nakedfrog
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- Apr 3, 2001
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I've got my typical 11 different apps open, most with multiple instances, but it still doesn't take long to shift from one to another, and it doesn't bother me having them all on one desktop. I think I might even find it more of a hassle if they were separated to multiple desktops 
halik
Lifer
- Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
I've got my typical 11 different apps open, most with multiple instances, but it still doesn't take long to shift from one to another, and it doesn't bother me having them all on one desktop. I think I might even find it more of a hassle if they were separated to multiple desktops
Unix had virtual windows for 20 years now. Try it out.
Actually that was the main thing that bugged me about windows/mac compared to linux - the two former didn't have any virtual desktop support (till about 2006 on mac).
If you work in any sort of analytical/sw engineering/webdev role, you need a ton of real estate and being able to do CTRL-arrow is a huge productivity boost (along with multiple monitors).
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