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Greatest Bush Accomplishment : Turning around Bill Clinton recession- More proof today! *another update*!

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"In a week in which US stock markets hit 16-month highs, surely there is some room for optimism? Stiglitz was having none of it. 'The huge tax cut in the US was very badly designed to stimulate the economy. And there has been a huge increase in mainly military spending. Yet what is remarkable is how little stimulus has been given. The US economy is still in a precarious state,' he said.

Rarely does the dismal science become so Prozac-inducing. But his pessimism arises from the fact that he is no believer in market infallibility. As a theorist, his work concentrated on labour market imperfections arising out of access to information. He is now extending this analysis to capital markets. Indeed his new book, Roaring Nineties, sets out what he sees as the multiple policy errors that sowed the 'seeds of destruction' in the American economy.

But surely 'destruction' is a little strong? 'Dealing with the deficit will absorb the US political economy for years to come. We're back to the Reagan era. The trade deficit has the underlying problem of what will happen when foreigners decide to stop funding the US deficit. On the private side there is a huge gap in private pension funds. Any other economy would be under water.'"

Stiglitz on the US economy

So when will the foreigners decide to stop funding the US deficit? Right now the South East Asian economies are pouring money into the US to keep their own currencies from growing too strong in comparison to the weakening US dollar. Japan for example are not going to let the US do what they did in the 80's when the dollar lost more than 50 per cent of it's value compared to the Yen. This had catastrophic consequences for the Japanese economy, which was on a bubble. Only now are there minute signs of recovery in Japan. Since the Chinese refuse to let their Yuan float the Euro is left to take the brunt of the irresponsible policies of the Bush administration.


 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
160 billion invading a country that has nothing to do with our security?

How the hell do you know that? Oh that's right... that's probably what Geraldo said.

I know Iraq did not have any WMD that Bush raved about before the war. I know Iraq did not have any kind of military presence that could threaten us. I know Iraq did not have link to al-qaeda or to 911, even Bush said so.

So what do you know that tells otherwise?
 
I know Iraq did not have link to al-qaeda or to 911, even Bush said so.

Sure he did. And there are never reasons to give the media false info, are there?



know Iraq did not have any WMD that Bush raved about before the war

I'd like for you to tell us all exactly how much of Iraq we have searched. Or do you know?
 
Originally posted by: Gaard

[YABB]I thought his greatest accomplishment was deflecting any questions about his AWOL/desertion period with "I don't remember."[/YABB]

Seriously, other than the obligatory "I don't remember", has any explanation been given?


Genuinely curious here. I tried to find an answer on Google, but the only other explanation was a best-guess by someone saying it was probably due to substance abuse. Has anyone heard any other explanation besides the "I don't remember"?

 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
I know Iraq did not have link to al-qaeda or to 911, even Bush said so.

Sure he did. And there are never reasons to give the media false info, are there?



know Iraq did not have any WMD that Bush raved about before the war

I'd like for you to tell us all exactly how much of Iraq we have searched. Or do you know?
Really, we can't even find Hussien and Bin Laden, what makes you think we will find WMDs in due course?
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Gaard

[YABB]I thought his greatest accomplishment was deflecting any questions about his AWOL/desertion period with "I don't remember."[/YABB]

Seriously, other than the obligatory "I don't remember", has any explanation been given?


Genuinely curious here. I tried to find an answer on Google, but the only other explanation was a best-guess by someone saying it was probably due to substance abuse. Has anyone heard any other explanation besides the "I don't remember"?
Hey if it was due to Substance Abuse then maybe he doesn't remember!
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: Gaard

[YABB]I thought his greatest accomplishment was deflecting any questions about his AWOL/desertion period with "I don't remember."[/YABB]

Seriously, other than the obligatory "I don't remember", has any explanation been given?


Genuinely curious here. I tried to find an answer on Google, but the only other explanation was a best-guess by someone saying it was probably due to substance abuse. Has anyone heard any other explanation besides the "I don't remember"?
Hey if it was due to Substance Abuse then maybe he doesn't remember!

🙂 true

 
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: dnuggett
The recession began under Dubya

If you know economics you know who's policies caused this...

There may have been a recession but Bush created the deficit.

That is such an ignorant response. I can't believe the world is filled with such ignorant people like you.
If you are going to post something like that at least give a reason why you think it is ignorant. You should know that nobody is just going to take your word for it.

 
Red:

Most of this discussion is nonsense. Presidents can actually do very little about economic conditions, other than curb spending. The Fed has more power than Bush at this point. Unless Bush is going to start a New Deal style public works program like FDR! Bwuahahaha!!! The best thing Bush could do is to veto a lot of spending bills which is not something I've seen him do. This deficit is dreadful and it is due to the tax cut (a spending bill from my perspective. 🙂 ) and the exhorbitant costs of this war. Where are the Republicans who support fiscal conservatism? Sheezh....
-Robert, who's going out to max all his credit cards and then declare bankruptcy so he can tell the judge he was just following Uncle Sam's lead.... 🙂, I need a new SATA hard drive, anyway....
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: XZeroII
Originally posted by: GrGr
Originally posted by: dnuggett
The recession began under Dubya

If you know economics you know who's policies caused this...

There may have been a recession but Bush created the deficit.

That is such an ignorant response. I can't believe the world is filled with such ignorant people like you.
If you are going to post something like that at least give a reason why you think it is ignorant. You should know that nobody is just going to take your word for it.
I've explained it so many times now that I'm sick of it. I truly am.
 
Really, we can't even find Hussien and Bin Laden, what makes you think we will find WMDs in due course?

You put alot of faith in what you hear on the news don't you? Do you think those reporters have a clue what is really happening? There is an election coming up.... we found them and the Pres is waiting for the right time to spring the news. Cmon... quit putting so much faith into ignorant reporters who follow the word of just about anyone and publish it like it's the gospel.
 
Cmon... quit putting so much faith into ignorant adminstartion who follow the word of just about anyone and pretend like it's the gospel.


😀
 
Bush should run on this as his greatest "accompleshment" 🙂
If this is the "greatest" I hate to see what the other ones are. 😀
 
A request for me to do what? I don't get what you are saying. Are you trying to say that the President and his cabinent rely on the word of just about anyone and that's why I should have no faith in them?
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Really, we can't even find Hussien and Bin Laden, what makes you think we will find WMDs in due course?

You put alot of faith in what you hear on the news don't you? Do you think those reporters have a clue what is really happening? There is an election coming up.... we found them and the Pres is waiting for the right time to spring the news. Cmon... quit putting so much faith into ignorant reporters who follow the word of just about anyone and publish it like it's the gospel.
So you think that we have Bin Laden, Hussien and have found the WMDs and Bush is just waiting for the Elelction to get under way before he tells us about it??
rolleye.gif
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
A request for me to do what? I don't get what you are saying. Are you trying to say that the President and his cabinent rely on the word of just about anyone and that's why I should have no faith in them?

well not anyone, but pretty much anyone who they think they can use to further their agenda; the Niger-Iraq uranium "intelligence" comes to mind as a specific example. but more to the point, i simply found it alarming that you have so much faith in the idea that the adminstartion has already captured Saddam and Ossama despite the lack of any evedence to back your claim.
 
So you think that we have Bin Laden, Hussien and have found the WMDs and Bush is just waiting for the Elelction to get under way before he tells us about it??

I'm not too sure about all of the above. You'll just have to pay attention and see.
 
i simply found it alarming that you have so much faith in the idea that the adminstartion has already captured Saddam and Ossama despite the lack of any evedence to back your claim.

What evidence do you have outside of the media that they have not been captured? If you know how administrations play the media you would not find this so alarming.
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
So you think that we have Bin Laden, Hussien and have found the WMDs and Bush is just waiting for the Elelction to get under way before he tells us about it??

I'm not too sure about all of the above. You'll just have to pay attention and see.
Well that would be "Rockin" good news!
 
You ARE kidding, right? The very moment they are captured you may be certain the political value of that find will far outweigh ANY intelligence value and the world will know. This administration is so hard up for good news it mails phony letters to newspapers! Good grief, man, get a grip. They outed a CIA operative in their zeal to shore up their house of cards which is already laying splayed upon the floor.
-Robert
 
Originally posted by: dnuggett
Really, we can't even find Hussien and Bin Laden, what makes you think we will find WMDs in due course?

You put alot of faith in what you hear on the news don't you? Do you think those reporters have a clue what is really happening? There is an election coming up.... we found them and the Pres is waiting for the right time to spring the news. Cmon... quit putting so much faith into ignorant reporters who follow the word of just about anyone and publish it like it's the gospel.

Hehe, at least we base our arguments on something tangible, unlike you who put your faith on some fantasy you dreamed up.
 
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