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Great gaming experiences you've ruined via cheats/spoilers

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
i'm cheating right now in fallout 3 by reassigning my stats because at first i screwed up assigning them. now i'm thinking about maxing everything out because it sucks having to use one set play style otherwise. also sucks reaching a locked box somewhere and having to forego it because your lockpick isn't high enough. i might also cheat to give me some better weapons. i like guns to hit where i aim. i don't have the patience to use guns that have random ridiculous spread, where you aim directly at something and the gun misses half the time or more. i remember this being one of the reasons i quit playing stalker - because the guns were so horribly inaccurate even if my character and fps skills were top notch.

That's why you have up-close battles. I never fought enemies from a distance in stalker. I would always kill them from no further than 10ft away.
 
I loved final fantasy 7 so I was looking around on-line and I was able to get an early copy (read the japanese edition) of Finaly Fantasy 8!!!

I was so excited to play and I thought I was soooo cool getting it before my fiends. However, I don't speak, read, or understand any Japanese. I used game shark to hack my way through the battles, I couldn't really figure out the battle system. A poorly translated guide told me which person to press "X" next to in each city. I finished the game never any of the story or having any idea what the characters were like. It was such a tedious experience I never finished the english version. It even put me off and I never played FF9!


I enjoyed FF number 10! Then I also played eleven but I got wrapped up creating an infinite loop scenario to power level my characters.
 
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
i'm cheating right now in fallout 3 by reassigning my stats because at first i screwed up assigning them. now i'm thinking about maxing everything out because it sucks having to use one set play style otherwise. also sucks reaching a locked box somewhere and having to forego it because your lockpick isn't high enough. i might also cheat to give me some better weapons. i like guns to hit where i aim. i don't have the patience to use guns that have random ridiculous spread, where you aim directly at something and the gun misses half the time or more. i remember this being one of the reasons i quit playing stalker - because the guns were so horribly inaccurate even if my character and fps skills were top notch.
You need to use VATS much more frequently. I used it for any battle that I knew would require more than one shot. VATS makes all your weapons considerably more accurate. You dont need to cheat. You dont need max stats or max skills. You need to use a tool thats already available and a major part of the game play.
VATS.
 
Cheating speeds things up. If i work 60 hrs a week, i rarely feel like playing it. It took me 6 months to beat Oblivion. why? cause i just didnt have the time and when i did, i sometimes wasnt in the mood after already playing bits of it and would forget what i'm doing in the game anyhow. the game felt boring at that point till i finally used a trainer one weekend and finished it so i didnt feel like i wasted my money on it.

Other times i cheat so i dont have to die and respawn all the time. can be a bit repetitive to go back to a save file and i always end up getting bored with it after so long.
 
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
i'm cheating right now in fallout 3 by reassigning my stats because at first i screwed up assigning them. now i'm thinking about maxing everything out because it sucks having to use one set play style otherwise. also sucks reaching a locked box somewhere and having to forego it because your lockpick isn't high enough. i might also cheat to give me some better weapons. i like guns to hit where i aim. i don't have the patience to use guns that have random ridiculous spread, where you aim directly at something and the gun misses half the time or more. i remember this being one of the reasons i quit playing stalker - because the guns were so horribly inaccurate even if my character and fps skills were top notch.
You need to use VATS much more frequently. I used it for any battle that I knew would require more than one shot. VATS makes all your weapons considerably more accurate. You dont need to cheat. You dont need max stats or max skills. You need to use a tool thats already available and a major part of the game play.
VATS.

When you're faced with a bunch of enemies and only limited VATS points to use, you're forced to aim without VATS a lot of the time. In these frequent situations, the guns suck. I'm thinking about just spawning a rifle that has close to zero spread and tons of ammo for it just to cut down on the frustration.
 
I always cheat in the sim city games. Stuff earning money, I want to build an awesome city with everything unlocked. I enjoy that more.
 
Originally posted by: TridenT
Sucks that I didn't follow the walkthrough from the beginning in FF9... Otherwise I would have chosen the right characters and bought the right shit.. Sadly, I didn't and... 40 hours down the drain......

I think that's part of the gaming experience though. Trial and error. Part of the fun in many games is the discovery. Learning what items are worth hanging onto, what skills/spells/talents are worth using/having on your own. You can always replay a game with that knowledge the 2nd time around.

The information detailed in a spoiler or walk-through was attained by someone who actually played the game the whole way through, discovering things as they went along and took note of it. It sorta taints the discovery and learning portion of a game when you start out knowing everything someone else learned only after they finished said game.
 
Originally posted by: StinkyPinky
I always cheat in the sim city games. Stuff earning money, I want to build an awesome city with everything unlocked. I enjoy that more.

I have enjoyed using money related cheats in Sim City games as well. Last one I spent much time on was Sim City 2000 though, so that's been quite a while now. I don't think I ever put much effort into playing them the way they were designed to be played though, so I can't say for certain that I wouldn't enjoy playing them without "assistance" =)
 
Well, I guess I kind of ruined RE5 because I read what some of the unlocks were, however, I would have never gotten these unlocks without a guide so I guess it didn't really spoil the game because I would have never discovered the unlocks on my own (seriously, who the **** is going to look for 25 hidden emblems and treasures AND have fun doing it?)
 
Originally posted by: pontifex
i try not to use them but i usually do end up using them at some point. usually when it gets especially hard. it does kind of ruin the game sometimes. just depends on the game.
there are some games that I wouldn't have finished without cheating, not becuase they were difficult, but because they sucked

I actually agree with pontifex here. There are a few games that I never would have finished without throwing on godmode/infinite ammo and blasting through.
 
I have to say that in Fallout, grabbing a Lincoln Repeater, Gauss Rifle, and spawning unlimited .44 Magnum ammo for the repeater has made the game much more fun. The Lincoln Repeater has high damage but NO SPREAD, meaning I actually hit things that I aim at. Imagine that! I now snipe with it loads more accurately than using that time consuming VATS.
 
unreal.

it was a long ass game and i don't think i finished it but it got so long and tedious i resorted to cheating and then lost interested never finishing it.
 
The Half Life 2 expansions. Half life 2 was innovative back in 2002-2004. Nowadays its just grind after grind. Of course, 1000 dmg python/smg with unlimited ammo is way fun (let's take down a swarm of hunters with a burst).

GTA3 back in the day begged for cheats. Whats the point of grinding up when the game is centered around mayhem anyway.

The original Dawn of War campaign could've used cheats. Each mission took way too long, especially at the requisition rates you were getting (one control point?!).
 
Originally posted by: minmaster
unreal.

it was a long ass game and i don't think i finished it but it got so long and tedious i resorted to cheating and then lost interested never finishing it.

Your missing out on one, if not the, best game ever made.
 
Originally posted by: EvilComputer92
Originally posted by: minmaster
unreal.

it was a long ass game and i don't think i finished it but it got so long and tedious i resorted to cheating and then lost interested never finishing it.

Your missing out on one, if not the, best game ever made.

Starcraft is the best game ever made, unreal is overrated.
 
It felt like cheating when I got level 20 in Fallout 3. I didnt feel like exploring anymore. I had no drive to get better gear, no desire to further my character. So I decided to beat the game. Then I was presented with the worst ending to any game ever. This was on the PS3 back in November.

I really want to play it again with all of these new DLC and level 30 cap +mods on my sweet new PC. I need to find some mods that make the game harder, slow the leveling, etc etc.
 
Originally posted by: HunterDT
It felt like cheating when I got level 20 in Fallout 3. I didnt feel like exploring anymore. I had no drive to get better gear, no desire to further my character. So I decided to beat the game. Then I was presented with the worst ending to any game ever. This was on the PS3 back in November.

I really want to play it again with all of these new DLC and level 30 cap +mods on my sweet new PC. I need to find some mods that make the game harder, slow the leveling, etc etc.

I didn't get around to finishing FO3, but could it really be worse than the Bioshock endings?
 
I never ruined a single game experience by cheating, but by spoilers it did happen on a few occasions, most of them being because I was never interested in the concerned game's endings nor story developments (if any), or because I never had actual time to play until the end. I can name Morrowind being the best example I know by heart. I loved Morrowind back then, but the problem for me, and perhaps many others at the time (2002'ish period) was that sandbox type games were fairly new to the market, even on PC, at least to that extent of grandeur and complexity (seriously, back then Morrowind blew way more asses around than Oblivion did in 2006). So I liked it, a lot, but the damn thing was so big, the world was virtually impossible to explore entirely, it was intimidating (to me anyway).

So I played a good 200+ hours in it, if not more, over quite a long period, trying out many mods, and doing all the side quests I could find, but I always avoided the main story missions on purpose because I knew that if I saw the ending even just one time, if I would learn of the story and character developments concerned in the main story line that I would eventually lose the desire, the drive to resume and perhaps create a new character and start again from zero, it was my fear and I wanted to avoid that at all cost, giving me the illusion to play in some sort of a "never ending story" game. But after some time, in around 2005 I believe, I stopped playing completely, lost interest anyway, seeing the ending or not was irrelevant by then. Eventually I decided to look on the web to see the ending. I ended up finding a video of some random guy playing the last 15 or so minutes of the game.

So I "spoiled" the ending of Morrowind without ever completing it myself, but it wasn't because I thought Morrowind was bad, it was just because I never had interest to reach the ending by myself, and because the game was just so big (think 2002 standards here, I know Oblivion was much bigger, but Oblivion actually fitted in its time period, Morrowind on the other hand was slightly in advance of its time in terms of 3D world size to explore as you wished, and comparing it to Daggerfall is unjust, Morrowind's world was way more complex and polished, but anyway, I could go on and on about that). It happened similarly in Oblivion, I didn't look for the ending on YouTube or anything like that, but after reading so many posts of so many members in the mods section of the official forums I eventually saw the inevitable spoilers without warnings in a post, so I basically knew about half of the ending without wanting to spoil it by myself.

I am glad, however, to say in all honesty and as far as memory allows me to remember, that I have never ever cheated in a game with the direct purpose to beat it the first time through because it would be boring or too difficult. I really don't think I've ever done that even once, and if it did happen I don't even remember about it anymore. When I cheat or temper with game files it's because I've beaten it already or because I am doing modifications for it (that's the case for me in Fallout 3 currently, and it was the case in Oblivion as well, especially when I had to test my changes, I often had to use God Mode and spawn many characters with full and different sets of items). I really have no issues with cheating for one's own amusement (off-line, for instance, or with the agreement of others if on-line, just "for fun" for example), but cheating to beat a game on the first time through? Never.
 
I know I cheated in Vampire Bloodlines with regards to trying out all the different abilities to see which ones sucked, and see which ones were cool. I used some sorta trainer that gave me as many experience points as I wanted, iirc, and I maxed out all the skills to see how effective, or not, they were. That's a bit of a spoiler.

Got my girlfriend to start playing it recently too, and she's actually really enjoying it. I think this is the first time she's really played a game like this. I still intend to give it another go soon. I'm going to try to play with as much feigned naivety as possible. On the bright side, I know next to nothing about the last act/location Chinatown, and I never got past Hollywood either, so I still have a good bit of the game left to explore.

I intend on giving KOTOR a run-thru as well once I finish Vampire. I know pretty much squat about that one. Also I'd like to experience Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, which I've not done. Maybe do Planescape: Torment, Morrowind, and perhaps some other well-known adventure games.
 
Well... I ruined my experience with Titan Quest after using cheats and hacks. Luckily I played it for a while before I started cheating. I also came close to ruining my Fallout 3 experience by using mods, but luckily I stopped just in time, and the new DLC's have reignited my interest.
 
Warcraft 1& 2. Used the no-pop limit cheat and it was just unit spam all over the map. I also used cheat devices for many sports games for PS2 for create-a-player. Damnit, we should be able to make super-star players if we wanted to.

 
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