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[TerranForces]

Hi, I used to be just a casual gamer. In the past I owned a Genesis, PS1, and Dreamcast. Now I am getting into gaming more seriously. For some reason, I am really in the mood to try out some of the games that I missed out on. I was never a nig pc gamer. The only games I had were Half-Life, B&W, and WC3. I never played Call Of Duty, Grim Fandango, No One Lives Forever, and the other greats.

I was also stuck on 56k until this year, so I never enjoyed a good multiplayer game. I remember when all of my friends were raving about Desert Combat, Tribes, StarCraft, etc. Are any of these games still worth playing? I might download a few or pick them up at Walmart for a couple bucks.

Looking back, I can't believe that I never got a SNES or N64. I guess I didn't have enough money. My friend gave me the roms for Super Mario RPG, Chrono Trigger, and Super Mario World. I really liked them a lot, although I haven't beaten Chrono yet. What are some awesome games that are worth playing?

Thanks for any suggestions!

 

[StevenYoo]

ya can't go wrong with the Software forum sticky thread on freeware games:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=33&threadid=1207656&enterthread=y

start there!

 

[Super56K]

Desert Combat is a free mod for Battlefield 1942. You do need to own a copy of Battlefield 1942 to try it out. I'm not sure how much of the fan base is still playing it though with Battlefield 2 being out and all.

If you haven't played Starcraft yet then you've really, really missed out. I'd get that and the expansion pack.

For some fun online FPS multiplayer try out Unreal Tournament 2004. You can find it for under $20 most everywhere.

Also, if you have a Target store nearby go check out(or I should say find) the clearenced pc games if they have any. Whenever I go to Target I usually always see a stack of PC games stuffed away on an end piece to an aisle at 75% off or more. I picked up UT2k4 for $10 a long time ago.

 

[Diasper]

I'd say Freespace I but especially Freespace 2. The code has now been open source which means many mods being developed while others have even updated the graphics and such - best space combat sim ever made bar none

 

[StevenYoo]

Originally posted by: Super56K

If you haven't played Starcraft yet then you've really, really missed out. I'd get that and the expansion pack.

Super56k's post got me thinking..

with a username like TerranForces you haven't played starcraft???

that's like... never reading Douglas Adams and always saying and posting "42"

 

[Gibson12345]

If you never played Deus Ex (the original, not its lackluster sequel), do yourself a favor and go buy the best game ever made, bar absolutely none. Beyond that, Starcraft, Final Fantasy III (SNES) and VII (PS1 or PC), Morrowind (especially with Oblivion coming out soon), Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament (again, the original), and Knights of the Old Republic (for the last time, the original) are some of the true greats off the top of my head.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Gibson12345
If you never played Deus Ex (the original, not its lackluster sequel), do yourself a favor and go buy the best game ever made, bar absolutely none. Beyond that, Starcraft, Final Fantasy III (SNES) and VII (PS1 or PC), Morrowind (especially with Oblivion coming out soon), Call of Duty, Unreal Tournament (again, the original), and Knights of the Old Republic (for the last time, the original) are some of the true greats off the top of my head.

There are better classics than starcraft, FFV > FFIII, Morrowind is considered by many to be the most overrated game of all time... Why are these lists always the same with everyone? You missed out on some much better gaming, and probably still do. Let me guess, you play WoW?

 

[Gibson12345]

Originally posted by: Malak
There are better classics than starcraft, FFV > FFIII, Morrowind is considered by many to be the most overrated game of all time... Why are these lists always the same with everyone? You missed out on some much better gaming, and probably still do. Let me guess, you play WoW?

It's certainly not a comprehensive list (as I indicate within my post), and no, I do not play WoW. MMOs, since they all basically follow the Everquest formula for success, are not my cup of tea. I used to rather enjoy Ultima Online, though, until the advent of a PvP-free land.

Starcraft is probably the best multiplayer strategy game out there, even after all these years, and the campaign was pretty darn good on top of that. If you didn't like Morrowind, I'm guessing you also don't like jobs where the boss isn't hovering over you, telling you exactly what to do at any given moment. I can respect that; some people just aren't self-starters. I'm not sure of the Japanese number for American III (which is the one I consider so good, although American II was pretty good, too), so I can't exactly refute your statement about Final Fantasy.

Of course, this is all my opinion. And you see, the reason they call it an opinion is that...

*sighs*

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Gibson12345

It's certainly not a comprehensive list (as I indicate within my post), and no, I do not play WoW. MMOs, since they all basically follow the Everquest formula for success, are not my cup of tea. I used to rather enjoy Ultima Online, though, until the advent of a PvP-free land.

Starcraft is probably the best multiplayer strategy game out there, even after all these years, and the campaign was pretty darn good on top of that. If you didn't like Morrowind, I'm guessing you also don't like jobs where the boss isn't hovering over you, telling you exactly what to do at any given moment. I can respect that; some people just aren't self-starters. I'm not sure of the Japanese number for American III (which is the one I consider so good, although American II was pretty good, too), so I can't exactly refute your statement about Final Fantasy.

Your opinion on MMO's has no basis, which is clearly because you don't play any. I've played dozens, they are not all the same, and EQ was not even close to the first, nor the most successful. If you like RPG's, then you should definitely reconsider them. Just take my advice, don't play EQ or WoW. Or any free ones.

Kohan is leaps and bounds over what Starcraft is, and I've yet to find a game that beats it. Even C&C:Generals is better than Starcraft, and I doubt even a sequel could beat it. Starcraft was good for it's time, but it was surpassed a long time ago.

I liked Morrowind at first, but there are critical flaws in it's design as an RPG. These flaws are later in the game, which is why the game got such great reviews from reviewers that only played it a week. Week 2 is usually when disappointment sets in for any game(except those few truly despairing titles you beat in the first week), and that's why we see so many overrated games.

The japanese number of III is VI, FFV was never released in america. They said we weren't mature enough for it. Some of the best classic RPG's weren't released in america, like seiken dentetsu 3, which I loved more than any in the FF series. I don't know why so many liked FFIII, I didn't even finish it, found it to be sort of boring really. FFV has more depth, with a class system like FF Tactics if you've ever played that.

 

[Fingolfin269]

If you have access to umm roms then look for one called Earthbound for the NES. Also look for the first two or three Monkey Island titles. Fun and hilarious. Grim Fandango is another.

BTW, Chrono Trigger is possibly the best game ever created.

 

[mundane]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
If you have access to umm roms then look for one called Earthbound for the NES. Also look for the first two or three Monkey Island titles. Fun and hilarious. Grim Fandango is another.

BTW, Chrono Trigger is possibly the best game ever created.

Might want to take a peak around for a compilation named the Lucas Arts Oldies collection. Has all of the ol' adventure games in it, runs in XP (thanks to the ScummVM engine, IIRC). I just finished Full Throttle - 10 years after I first enjoyed it.

 

[TerranForces]

Figure I can get 10 games total, what would they be? I understand that Starcraft was the best for its time, but haven't other games surpassed it now?

 

[apoppin]

Bargain Bin?

Chronicles of Riddick
Thief DS
DeusEx IW
KotOR
MaxPayne2

 

[Nextman916]

tribes
UT2004
far cry

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: TerranForces
Figure I can get 10 games total, what would they be? I understand that Starcraft was the best for its time, but haven't other games surpassed it now?

I could still go back and play Starcraft. And don't forget Diablo 2. Hah, hell just go pick up any Blizzard game.

 

[Elcs]

Originally posted by: Diasper
I'd say Freespace I but especially Freespace 2. The code has now been open source which means many mods being developed while others have even updated the graphics and such - best space combat sim ever made bar none

Freespace 2 Port

Play Freespace 1 in the Freespace 2 engine. Extremely well done mod but limited to 1024x768 max with the high res mods.

Note: Downloads will take you to Fileplanet. Account required.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: TerranForces
Figure I can get 10 games total, what would they be? I understand that Starcraft was the best for its time, but haven't other games surpassed it now?

Kohan: Ahriman's Gift is way better than Starcraft, IMO. I've never had more fun in an RTS than with Kohan, and it was the most played RTS at our LAN parties.

Warlord's Battlecry is good too, I believe they are at #4 now so you can probably get one of the older ones for cheap if you find it. There are two warlord games though, one is an RPG and the other is an RTS, make sure you get battlecry.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Gibson12345

It's certainly not a comprehensive list (as I indicate within my post), and no, I do not play WoW. MMOs, since they all basically follow the Everquest formula for success, are not my cup of tea. I used to rather enjoy Ultima Online, though, until the advent of a PvP-free land.

Starcraft is probably the best multiplayer strategy game out there, even after all these years, and the campaign was pretty darn good on top of that. If you didn't like Morrowind, I'm guessing you also don't like jobs where the boss isn't hovering over you, telling you exactly what to do at any given moment. I can respect that; some people just aren't self-starters. I'm not sure of the Japanese number for American III (which is the one I consider so good, although American II was pretty good, too), so I can't exactly refute your statement about Final Fantasy.

Your opinion on MMO's has no basis, which is clearly because you don't play any. I've played dozens, they are not all the same, and EQ was not even close to the first, nor the most successful. If you like RPG's, then you should definitely reconsider them. Just take my advice, don't play EQ or WoW. Or any free ones.

Kohan is leaps and bounds over what Starcraft is, and I've yet to find a game that beats it. Even C&C:Generals is better than Starcraft, and I doubt even a sequel could beat it. Starcraft was good for it's time, but it was surpassed a long time ago.

I liked Morrowind at first, but there are critical flaws in it's design as an RPG. These flaws are later in the game, which is why the game got such great reviews from reviewers that only played it a week. Week 2 is usually when disappointment sets in for any game(except those few truly despairing titles you beat in the first week), and that's why we see so many overrated games.

The japanese number of III is VI, FFV was never released in america. They said we weren't mature enough for it. Some of the best classic RPG's weren't released in america, like seiken dentetsu 3, which I loved more than any in the FF series. I don't know why so many liked FFIII, I didn't even finish it, found it to be sort of boring really. FFV has more depth, with a class system like FF Tactics if you've ever played that.

there's now way C&C:G beats starcraft, the control interface isn't nearly as smooth IMO

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: Gibson12345

It's certainly not a comprehensive list (as I indicate within my post), and no, I do not play WoW. MMOs, since they all basically follow the Everquest formula for success, are not my cup of tea. I used to rather enjoy Ultima Online, though, until the advent of a PvP-free land.

Starcraft is probably the best multiplayer strategy game out there, even after all these years, and the campaign was pretty darn good on top of that. If you didn't like Morrowind, I'm guessing you also don't like jobs where the boss isn't hovering over you, telling you exactly what to do at any given moment. I can respect that; some people just aren't self-starters. I'm not sure of the Japanese number for American III (which is the one I consider so good, although American II was pretty good, too), so I can't exactly refute your statement about Final Fantasy.

Your opinion on MMO's has no basis, which is clearly because you don't play any. I've played dozens, they are not all the same, and EQ was not even close to the first, nor the most successful. If you like RPG's, then you should definitely reconsider them. Just take my advice, don't play EQ or WoW. Or any free ones.

Kohan is leaps and bounds over what Starcraft is, and I've yet to find a game that beats it. Even C&C:Generals is better than Starcraft, and I doubt even a sequel could beat it. Starcraft was good for it's time, but it was surpassed a long time ago.

I liked Morrowind at first, but there are critical flaws in it's design as an RPG. These flaws are later in the game, which is why the game got such great reviews from reviewers that only played it a week. Week 2 is usually when disappointment sets in for any game(except those few truly despairing titles you beat in the first week), and that's why we see so many overrated games.

The japanese number of III is VI, FFV was never released in america. They said we weren't mature enough for it. Some of the best classic RPG's weren't released in america, like seiken dentetsu 3, which I loved more than any in the FF series. I don't know why so many liked FFIII, I didn't even finish it, found it to be sort of boring really. FFV has more depth, with a class system like FF Tactics if you've ever played that.

there's now way C&C:G beats starcraft, the control interface isn't nearly as smooth IMO

I like Red Alert 2 better than Generals anyway.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
there's now way C&C:G beats starcraft, the control interface isn't nearly as smooth IMO

Every single unit on all 3 sides is completely unique to that side. Better graphics. With Zero Hour expansion, you can't have the same 3 strategies depending on your chosen side like in Starcraft. There is no Terran Blockade, Zerg, or... wait does anyone play protoss? Plus, destroying someone's base with 16 nukes is just fun, even if it brings your video card to it's knees.

I would sooner play the original C&C than starcraft, I've never liked blizzard RTS's. Or any game developed exclusively by Blizzard.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Heroes of 3 of Might and Magic and the expansions Armaggaedon's Blade and Shadow of Death. Dunno if you can find them in the bargain bin though.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: TerranForces
I understand that Starcraft was the best for its time, but haven't other games surpassed it now?

In the RTS world? No.

Heroes of Might and Magic 3 (& expansions) is also fun.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: TerranForces
I understand that Starcraft was the best for its time, but haven't other games surpassed it now?

In the RTS world? No.

I guess it depends on what you define as RTS. There are plenty of people out there who argue that games such as Rome and Medievial are definately a step above games such as Starcraft. That's if you look at the RTS genre in a broad sense. I personally categorize Starcraft/Warcraft vs. Medieval/Rome as apples/oranges myself. Both are great at what they offer but have enough differences to be completely different types of rts games.

 

[Malak]

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: TerranForces
I understand that Starcraft was the best for its time, but haven't other games surpassed it now?

In the RTS world? No.

Honestly I'd be surprised if you and every other starcraft fanboy has even tried half the RTS's out there, given your opinion. It's ridiculous how people can be stuck in 1998 and think nothing can be better.

 

[JustAnAverageGuy]

Originally posted by: Malak

Originally posted by: JustAnAverageGuy

Originally posted by: TerranForces
I understand that Starcraft was the best for its time, but haven't other games surpassed it now?

In the RTS world? No.

Honestly I'd be surprised if you and every other starcraft fanboy has even tried half the RTS's out there, given your opinion. It's ridiculous how people can be stuck in 1998 and think nothing can be better.

I've played my fair share of RTS games. Starcraft is inargueably among the top five of all time.