Gravity isn't real

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PowerEngineer

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Really, its not. Its apparent effects are real of course, but gravity isn't understood. Nothing is fully understood until the most basic levels of reality are understood. From there we can reconstruct the world back to what we observe. For now, gravity is bullshit.

Perhaps you can be so kind as to list things that aren't "bullshit" by this definition. Or tell us what things are fully understood at the most basic levels of reality. If you've got nothing because everything is "bullshit", well then your definition of reality doesn't seem very useful.
 

moonbogg

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Perhaps you can be so kind as to list things that aren't "bullshit" by this definition. Or tell us what things are fully understood at the most basic levels of reality. If you've got nothing because everything is "bullshit", well then your definition of reality doesn't seem very useful.

Only one thing can't be denied. All else is illusory and exists only as an icon in your imagination. Gravity is bullshit as well as your understanding of what is actually happening.
 

marees

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Would you guys say surface tension is not real

Why do two separately floating objects in a liquid "attract" each other ??


What if gravity is an emergent property like surface tension ?

What if they both are essentially trying to *minimize disorder at the interfaces — where non-aligned polarized particles are forced to mix with each other*

What if gravity is an emergent property that is trying to optimize the entropy emerging out of spin aligned quantum bits


FULL DISCLAIMER:
I neither know about physics of Surface Tension nor Gravity !!
 
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Muse

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Would you guys say surface tension is not real

Why do two separately floating objects in a liquid "attract" each other ??


What if gravity is an emergent property like surface tension ?

What if they both are essentially trying to *minimize disorder at the interfaces — where non-aligned polarized particles are forced to mix with each other*

What if gravity is an emergent property that is trying to optimize the entropy emerging out of spin aligned quantum bits


FULL DISCLAIMER:
I neither know about physics of Surface Tension nor Gravity !!
What is now proved was once only imagined. - William Blake
 
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Muse

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Only one thing can't be denied. All else is illusory and exists only as an icon in your imagination. Gravity is bullshit as well as your understanding of what is actually happening.
He who doubts from what he sees will never believe do what you please. - William Blake

Reality is merely an illusion albeit a very persistent one. - Albert Einstein
 

Muse

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Only one thing can't be denied. All else is illusory and exists only as an icon in your imagination. Gravity is bullshit as well as your understanding of what is actually happening.
If the sun or moon were to doubt they'd immediately go out. - William Blake
 

KLin

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Micrornd

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So many people believe in an afterlife.

What if we have already "been" and THIS is the afterlife ?
 

lxskllr

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So many people believe in an afterlife.

What if we have already "been" and THIS is the afterlife ?
This is hell.

With very loose definitions, a lot of this could be the afterlife of /something/. Might be a mouse, a possum, and 10# of fish, but it's all run around before. Might be a long dead extraterrestrial civilization! How exciting is that?! A shame you can't remember.
 

Ken g6

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Would you guys say surface tension is not real

Why do two separately floating objects in a liquid "attract" each other ??


What if gravity is an emergent property like surface tension ?

What if they both are essentially trying to *minimize disorder at the interfaces — where non-aligned polarized particles are forced to mix with each other*

What if gravity is an emergent property that is trying to optimize the entropy emerging out of spin aligned quantum bits


FULL DISCLAIMER:
I neither know about physics of Surface Tension nor Gravity !!
This feels like it's close to something. Objects in a gravitational field move faster through the fourth dimension (time). So one might say the arrow of time is longer. Bringing two massive objects together makes the "arrows of time" even longer.

But does that relate to quantum spins? Can quantum spins be aligned along the fourth dimension? If so, I feel like moving objects faster through the fourth dimension would make their spins appear more aligned to an outside observer.
 
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marees

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After giving this a bit more thought, this is what I am thinking now

  1. Gravity can be replaced with an equivalent accelerating force as per Einstein's general theory of relativity
  2. This acceleration is nothing but the movement of a 'mass' within curved spacetime
  3. So here the movement is real, spacetime is real & the curvature is also real. It is the mass which is not real
  4. Basically there is no such thing as mass. Mass is an illusion caused due to curvature of spacetime — this curvature is the real effect
So what is underlying phenomena behind the curvature of spacetime? For this we have to understand the Higgs field
  1. In initial universe, the Higgs field is turned off
  2. At some point the Higgs field got turned on
  3. Once the Higgs field gets turned on then it starts interacting with other fundamental particles such as electron, neutrino, quarks etc.
  4. There is a lowest possible unique resonant frequency associated with each fundamental particle that depends on
    1. Strength of the Higgs field
    2. Nature & strength of the interaction between the fundamental particle & Higgs field
  5. Once the particle starts interacting with Higgs field then it starts to vibrate at its resonant frequency
  6. This vibration disturbs the equilibrium of the surrounding Higgs field & it becomes tense/polarized
  7. This disturbance of the Higgs field from its equilibrium due to the vibration of the interacting particle is what we observe as the curvature of spacetime