Graphite cue sticks?

boyRacer

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What do you guys think about graphite cue sticks...?...i know the shaft doesn't bend as much as a wooden cue stick... but for some reason i look at it sorta like those aluminum(?) baseball bats.
 

yakko

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I use a cheap $20 one from K-mart. It is fine for me since I just play on the crappy table at work.
 

AmazonRasta

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As a decent pool player myself, I couldn't help but agree with you. The game of pool/billiards should be played with a wooden cue. There is no reason why another player should have an advantage over me just because they have an aluminium cue. Billiards was originally played with a wooden cue - the tradition should be continued even in this day and age.

You don't see players of the MLB playing with aluminium baseball bats.

[edit]Added the word "see" in my second paragraph.[/edit]
 

Farbio

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i don't like the feel of a graphite or aluminum cue near as much as the wooden....can't say i notice a big difference when playing, but i just prefer the wooden
 

boyRacer

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<< You don't see players of the MLB playing with aluminium baseball bats. >>



I think its illegal because they can swing it harder and would start sending balls out of the ballpark...just like that dude that got caught because he put cork in his bat so its lighter and he can swing it faster and harder. What I don't see though is pro pool players playing with graphite. Hmmm...in this case lighter doesn't really help because you're shooting at such low speeds and weak impact...i suppose its better for breaking then.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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I'm actually looking into buying my own cue. This was the question that I've been thinking about :) Thanks for your opinions, people. I'll be watching to see what I should get.
 

Brutuskend

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I owned a Graphite cue for awhile.
I didn't like the taper, and it was harder to keep it "slick", had to powder it every shot.
It was straight though!
 

Ns1

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use both cues and you will know

the graphite doesn't have the same kinda solid hit you will get when you use a wooden cue

the graphite doesn't warp, true, but it just doesn't feel right when you use it

it feels as if it flexes everytime you hit the ball, it's just wierd ^_^
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Brut, you talking about the tip or the shaft? You powder the shaft!? If you're talking about the tip, shouldn't the tips be the same on both wood and graphite shafts????
 

n0cmonkey

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If you get a chance, play a game or two with a graphite cue. I considered getting one since I can find one cheaply and they look neat, but I borrowed one for a friend and had to stop using it after the first game. My opinion, but using one before putting down some decent money on one wouldnt be a bad idea. I may pick one up if I can find a decent one for cheap since one of the big reasons it felt wierd was because Im not used to it. Im not used to a straight cue either though... Damn house cues :p
 

jlee75

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<< Brut, you talking about the tip or the shaft? You powder the shaft!? If you're talking about the tip, shouldn't the tips be the same on both wood and graphite shafts???? >>


i think he's talking about the hand.
 

boyRacer

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Some people recommend a getting a graphite stick and a wooden shaft?...uhhh...i dunno.

I think any stick loses that slick feeling after a couple of months even though graphites are advertised more as to keeping that smooth feeling longer. I'm still undecided. :(
 

AmazonRasta

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If you need an aluminium cue to shoot a straight shot, then you shouldn't be playing pool in the first place.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Hand? Like... right/left... like... attached-to-your-arm kind of hand? Good god. Get a glove. But I think I'm misunderstanding... is something on the cue, itself, called the "hand"?
 

dman

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A player can have an advantage over you with a $500+ custom wooden cue. Graphite isn't the only way someone can have an advantage.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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<< A player can have an advantage over you with a $500+ custom wooden cue. Graphite isn't the only way someone can have an advantage. >>

$500? That's cheap. I'm looking at $1,500 custom wooden cue.
 

Brutuskend

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<< Brut, you talking about the tip or the shaft? You powder the shaft!? If you're talking about the tip, shouldn't the tips be the same on both wood and graphite shafts???? >>



"hey, I'm talking about SHAFT" ;)

Plus I "chalk" my tips!! ;)
 

AmazonRasta

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<< Hand? Like... right/left... like... attached-to-your-arm kind of hand? Good god. Get a glove. But I think I'm misunderstanding... is something on the cue, itself, called the "hand"? >>



I think he/she is talking about the part of the hand where the cue is slid through - the thumb and the index finger of either the right or the left hand. I think he/she meant that a wooden cue slid through his bridge better than an aluminium cue.
 

boyRacer

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I got this from AZBilliards.com;

Q.
I just bought a new graphite stick, it is my first stick so I figured to buy graphite because they said that it was strong. Well anyways, I was wondering on how to get more grip on the cue ball because everytime I draw back in my game, the ball doesn't go back far enough. What kind of tip do I use to get more grip on the ball?

A.
The problem here is most likely the cue you have chosen. Graphite cue are durable but certainly lack the nice feel & playability of an all wood cue. I would suggest looking into a quality all wood cue. I have many people ask me about tips and getting "good english." I like a tip that mushrooms little and keeps a nice radius. Right now I use the WB brand of water buffalo tips on my personal cue.


Seems to be the overall opinion that graphite feels numb... even if it doesn't flex. Its looking like wood from here... :)
 

n0cmonkey

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<< If you need an aluminium cue to shoot a straight shot, then you shouldn't be playing pool in the first place. >>



You should be playing MORE if you cant shoot straight. Practice and all ;)

But I think the point was the graphite sticks do not warp as quickly as wooden sticks, which is less of a concern if you take care of your stick. I think it should be left up to personal taste.
 

boyRacer

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Also at the point of contact... the shaft does deflect when it hits the cue ball...especially if a lot of english is applied. But I suppose mastering that is a part of the game anyway. :)
 

GagHalfrunt

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As a decent pool player myself, I couldn't help but agree with you. The game of pool/billiards should be played with a wooden cue. There is no reason why another player should have an advantage over me just because they have an aluminium cue. Billiards was originally played with a wooden cue - the tradition should be continued even in this day and age.

You don't see players of the MLB playing with aluminium baseball bats.

[edit]Added the word "see" in my second paragraph.[/edit]

Worst analogy ever. Aluminum bats can't be used, they were legislated out of the pro game for a lot of reasons and players would be using them if allowed. They're superior to wood in most ways. Graphite and aluminum cue sticks are legal and still not used by the overwhelming majority of better players, that alone should give you all the evidence you need that graphite and aluminum provide absolutely no competitive advantage. If you're getting your ass kicked by a guy with a non-wooden cue it's because he's better than you are.
 

Homerboy

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Worst analogy ever. Aluminum bats can't be used, they were legislated out of the pro game for a lot of reasons and players would be using them if allowed. They're superior to wood in most ways. Graphite and aluminum cue sticks are legal and still not used by the overwhelming majority of better players, that alone should give you all the evidence you need that graphite and aluminum provide absolutely no competitive advantage. If you're getting your ass kicked by a guy with a non-wooden cue it's because he's better than you are.

15 years later, I wonder if he's changed his mind?