Graded for Breakfast?

[CADsortaGUY]

Breakfast at school now is on the principal

In a locally unprecedented move, the School District of Philadelphia will hold principals accountable for the number of students eating breakfast in their schools.

Breakfast participation will be part of the report card that rates principals each year, along with categories such as attendance and math and reading performance.

"This is the first accountability system for school meals in the history of the school system," Stein said. "It's very exciting."

So let me get this straight - we can't have accountability for teachers or students but they are going to "grade" the principal on something that the school shouldn't be doing in the first place? Seriously - breakfast is not the responsibility of the tax-payer nor the school and especially not the principal. Our whole "public" k-12 system needs scrapped and rebuilt...

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
Breakfast at school now is on the principal

In a locally unprecedented move, the School District of Philadelphia will hold principals accountable for the number of students eating breakfast in their schools.

Breakfast participation will be part of the report card that rates principals each year, along with categories such as attendance and math and reading performance.

"This is the first accountability system for school meals in the history of the school system," Stein said. "It's very exciting."

So let me get this straight - we can't have accountability for teachers or students but they are going to "grade" the principal on something that the school shouldn't be doing in the first place? Seriously - breakfast is not the responsibility of the tax-payer nor the school and especially not the principal. Our whole "public" k-12 system needs scrapped and rebuilt...

Breakfast may not be the responsibility of the taxpayers; however if it is being provided to ensure that the children are healthy and able to learn as a result; then accountability could be required.

School hours and/or economic climate force some children (especially inner city) to come to school under-nurished. If the Feds are pumping funds for meals to the schools; then ensure that they are used wisely.

 

[cubeless]

you've obviously never seen the amount of stuff thrown in the trash from free meals... talk about waste...

 

[shrumpage]

If a parent(s) can not provide breakfast for for their kid(s), I question if they should be allowed to remain parents. It should not be the schools responsibility to find kids.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: shrumpage
If a parent(s) can not provide breakfast for for their kid(s), I question if they should be allowed to remain parents. It should not be the schools responsibility to find kids.

What is important here is what is best for the children not what you think about who should be parents.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: shrumpage
If a parent(s) can not provide breakfast for for their kid(s), I question if they should be allowed to remain parents. It should not be the schools responsibility to find kids.

What is important here is what is best for the children not what you think about who should be parents.

Right and the parents can't provide basic food from them, they should not be with those parents.

 

[boomerang]

No license is required to be a parent. Sperm meets egg and parentage results.

For those that want to take the kids away, where do want them to go? How about your place?

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: boomerang
No license is required to be a parent. Sperm meets egg and parentage results.

For those that want to take the kids away, where do want them to go? How about your place?

We are talking about providing breakfast, 25 cents and 5 minutes of time. If a parent is completely incapable of providing a very basic need, then the child is in a dangerous situation.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: boomerang
No license is required to be a parent. Sperm meets egg and parentage results.

For those that want to take the kids away, where do want them to go? How about your place?

We are talking about providing breakfast, 25 cents and 5 minutes of time. If a parent is completely incapable of providing a very basic need, then the child is in a dangerous situation.

That type of breakfast - poptart or cereal is not going to keep a child going throughout the day without hunger being a distraction.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: boomerang
No license is required to be a parent. Sperm meets egg and parentage results.

For those that want to take the kids away, where do want them to go? How about your place?

We are talking about providing breakfast, 25 cents and 5 minutes of time. If a parent is completely incapable of providing a very basic need, then the child is in a dangerous situation.

That type of breakfast - poptart or cereal is not going to keep a child going throughout the day without hunger being a distraction.

Your right, that is why i was thinking eggs and oatmeal.

 

[Patranus]

Schools should not be providing breakfast to children in the first place. That is the role of the parent not the government. People wonder why kids are out of control these days but then rely on the government to raise their kids.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

This is just another instance of a local government trying to appear to be dealing with a problem while avoiding any mention of the real problem. I'm not sure what a workable solution is to the real problem other than advocacy of forced sterilization, forced abortion, and eugenics. (I'm not saying that we should do that, just that it might be the only solution even if we find it very distasteful and would prefer to have the problem instead.)

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
This is just another instance of a local government trying to appear to be dealing with a problem while avoiding any mention of the real problem. I'm not sure what a workable solution is to the real problem other than advocacy of forced sterilization, forced abortion, and eugenics. (I'm not saying that we should do that, just that it might be the only solution even if we find it very distasteful and would prefer to have the problem instead.)

Why should a parent be a parent when the school will do all of the work for them on someone elses dime?

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: boomerang
No license is required to be a parent. Sperm meets egg and parentage results.

For those that want to take the kids away, where do want them to go? How about your place?

Yep. Just like many pro-lifers. Follow-through is the key.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

WTF are they doing serving breakfast at school?!

Mark this down as even less quality time that those parents spend with their children. What are they down to these days? Maybe 45 minutes a day?

/disgust

 

[nageov3t]

I don't see it as being fundamentally different than free school lunches. no child should go hungry just because their parent is a fuck up.

that said, grading principles on it... seems weird.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
WTF are they doing serving breakfast at school?!

Mark this down as even less quality time that those parents spend with their children. What are they down to these days? Maybe 45 minutes a day?

/disgust

It's optional and before classes. Parents still have the choice to have breakfast with their kids.

This situation is retarded though. 0.o

 

[Siddhartha]

Consider letting go of your political dogma and think about what is best in this situation for the kids.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Consider letting go of your political dogma and think about what is best in this situation for the kids.

yes, they should be removed from a situation where their basic needs are not being met.

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Consider letting go of your political dogma and think about what is best in this situation for the kids.

yes, they should be removed from a situation where their basic needs are not being met.

Some kids are not getting breakfast in the morning and it is affecting their ability to concentrate in school.

Solutions:

1. Give the kids breakfast.
2. Do nothing because you think the schools should not be feeding kids. Too bad for the kids.
3. Take the kids away from their parents. Too bad for the kids.

I understand you favor option 3. Some of the forum members favor doing nothing.
I think option 1 addresses the problem and helps these hungry kids.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Consider letting go of your political dogma and think about what is best in this situation for the kids.

yes, they should be removed from a situation where their basic needs are not being met.

Some kids are not getting breakfast in the morning and it is affecting their ability to concentrate in school.

Solutions:

1. Give the kids breakfast.
2. Do nothing because you think the schools should not be feeding kids. Too bad for the kids.
3. Take the kids away from their parents. Too bad for the kids.

I understand you favor option 3. Some of the forum members favor doing nothing.
I think option 1 addresses the problem and helps these hungry kids.

What about dinner? How can they possibly be expected to do homework while hungry? :roll:

Of course, all of this is ignoring the fact that we already have programs in place to get poor people food.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Siddhartha

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: Siddhartha
Consider letting go of your political dogma and think about what is best in this situation for the kids.

yes, they should be removed from a situation where their basic needs are not being met.

Some kids are not getting breakfast in the morning and it is affecting their ability to concentrate in school.

Solutions:

1. Give the kids breakfast.
2. Do nothing because you think the schools should not be feeding kids. Too bad for the kids.
3. Take the kids away from their parents. Too bad for the kids.

I understand you favor option 3. Some of the forum members favor doing nothing.
I think option 1 addresses the problem and helps these hungry kids.

The kids are in a situation where the parents can't take 5 minutes out of their day, or 25 cents out of their pocket to provide the very basic need of food.

What kind of home life do you think these children have?

 

[Moonbeam]

Kids should be taken out of homes at the age of 4 and put in government schools where they can be trained like Sparta trained its kids. Then 300 Americans could hold off 200,000 elite soldiers from anywhere else in the world. Just imagine a hundred million Spartans. They could take over the world with their free breakfast spoons.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Kids should be taken out of homes at the age of 4 and put in government schools where they can be trained like Sparta trained its kids. Then 300 Americans could hold off 200,000 elite soldiers from anywhere else in the world. Just imagine a hundred million Spartans. They could take over the world with their free breakfast spoons.

Sporks....


They use sporks.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Kids should be taken out of homes at the age of 4 and put in government schools where they can be trained like Sparta trained its kids. Then 300 Americans could hold off 200,000 elite soldiers from anywhere else in the world. Just imagine a hundred million Spartans. They could take over the world with their free breakfast spoons.

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