GQ: Impeach Cheney

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LegendKiller

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

If Liberals want civil war, remember who has the guns. You had best be prepared to back up your violent rhetoric.

I love how you completely ignore the fact that the President and the Vice President more or less trampled the Constitution, your rights, and your future. Yet, all you can do is say that "liberals" (ie anybody who thinks that Bush did the above, which now encompasses the majority of the country) should be wary of a civil war.

Listen buckwheat. I voted for Bush in 2000 and not in 2004. I own plenty of guns, from pistols to shotguns. I am not a Liberal, Conserviative,or anything else. I am an American who is fed up with doofs like you accepting doofs like them because they call themselves "conservatives" to get your pea-brain on their side.

What I find amusing is that you claim to have guns and will go to war with them. With such a clueless life how do you think you will fare against those who are obviously your intellectual superiors?

 

randym431

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I predict Cheney will resign for "health" issues before the end of 2007. Probably late Summer/early Fall.
 

2Xtreme21

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Is this an actual document made by Democratic leaders? Or was this just drawn up by a men's magazine? Dems need to have the gall to actually do this...
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: randym431
I predict Cheney will resign for "health" issues before the end of 2007. Probably late Summer/early Fall.

probably not going to happen. not having a VP running for office gives the administration a lot more freedom, since they don't have to worry about how the president's policies will directly affect the VP's election chances. if Cheney was going to resign, he'd have done it before the '04 elections. Bush's victory wouldn't have been nearly so narrow if he had someone on the ticket whose approval ratings weren't in the teens.
 

nageov3t

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Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21
Is this an actual document made by Democratic leaders? Or was this just drawn up by a men's magazine? Dems need to have the gall to actually do this...

what would be the point? it would draw attraction away from real issues, make the democrats look ridiculous to everyone except the far left, and he's already a lame duck with his rock bottom approval ratings and only a year and a half or so left in office.

washington needs less appealing to the base, not more.
 

Jaskalas

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Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

If Liberals want civil war, remember who has the guns. You had best be prepared to back up your violent rhetoric.

I love how you completely ignore the fact that the President and the Vice President more or less trampled the Constitution, your rights, and your future. Yet, all you can do is say that "liberals" (ie anybody who thinks that Bush did the above, which now encompasses the majority of the country) should be wary of a civil war.

I?m telling you that when you?re calling for blood, then blood is what you shall get. Let me quote it again just so it sinks in.

Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

Calling for violence against our President(s) is well above and beyond an impeachment.
 

LegendKiller

Lifer
Mar 5, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

If Liberals want civil war, remember who has the guns. You had best be prepared to back up your violent rhetoric.

I love how you completely ignore the fact that the President and the Vice President more or less trampled the Constitution, your rights, and your future. Yet, all you can do is say that "liberals" (ie anybody who thinks that Bush did the above, which now encompasses the majority of the country) should be wary of a civil war.

I?m telling you that when you?re calling for blood, then blood is what you shall get. Let me quote it again just so it sinks in.

Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

Calling for violence against our President(s) is well above and beyond an impeachment.

If they were found to be treasonous they should be hung. Personally, I think they were. I think they deliberately lead this country to war in order to push an agenda that wasn't what this country wanted. They flipped a coin and came up on the wrong side and now the country has to pay for a war they didn't want, propagated by people who mislead them to accomplish an agenda the people didn't want to go along with in the first place.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: UberNeuman
Myself, I believe that there's many issues that the Bush administration needs to address and they should welcome any investigations, because it would lay to rest any doubts of spewing lies, distortions or half-truths about how they have conducted their polices over the length of their term in office...

If you have truth on your side, you have nothing to fear, except for those that fear to hear it....

So, why does not George stand up and say bring it on? The reasons are clear why he doesn't.....

When politics is involved there is always two sides to the same set of facts.
Our country has better things to do than fufill some liberal fantasy of impeaching people from this administration.
 

Bowfinger

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Originally posted by: Genx87
When politics is involved there is always two sides to the same set of facts.
Our country has better things to do than fufill some liberal fantasy of impeaching people from this administration.
Out in the normal world, that's called accountability. Bush is such a failure because he's spent his entire life without ever being held accountable for his actions. His faithful continue to enable this deficiency.


While I think the OP lays out a great case for impeaching Cheney and nicely highlights the dishonesty used to dupe Americans into Iraq, I hope everyone recognizes that actually impeaching Cheney, or even Cheney and Bush both, is very much a double-edged sword. It would give the GOP a chance to get one of their favored sons into the V.P. role for a year and a half. That could be a huge boon when running for President in 2008.
 

Genx87

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Genx87
When politics is involved there is always two sides to the same set of facts.
Our country has better things to do than fufill some liberal fantasy of impeaching people from this administration.
Out in the normal world, that's called accountability. Bush is such a failure because he's spent his entire life without ever being held accountable for his actions. His faithful continue to enable this deficiency.


While I think the OP lays out a great case for impeaching Cheney and nicely highlights the dishonesty used to dupe Americans into Iraq, I hope everyone recognizes that actually impeaching Cheney, or even Cheney and Bush both, is very much a double-edged sword. It would give the GOP a chance to get one of their favored sons into the V.P. role for a year and a half. That could be a huge boon when running for President in 2008.

Continue with your fantasy, nobody is stopping you, but dont expect it to happen.
Our country has better things to worry about.

 

Bowfinger

Lifer
Nov 17, 2002
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Genx87
When politics is involved there is always two sides to the same set of facts.
Our country has better things to do than fufill some liberal fantasy of impeaching people from this administration.
Out in the normal world, that's called accountability. Bush is such a failure because he's spent his entire life without ever being held accountable for his actions. His faithful continue to enable this deficiency.


While I think the OP lays out a great case for impeaching Cheney and nicely highlights the dishonesty used to dupe Americans into Iraq, I hope everyone recognizes that actually impeaching Cheney, or even Cheney and Bush both, is very much a double-edged sword. It would give the GOP a chance to get one of their favored sons into the V.P. role for a year and a half. That could be a huge boon when running for President in 2008.
Continue with your fantasy, nobody is stopping you, but dont expect it to happen.
Our country has better things to worry about.
I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved a bit.
 

HomerJS

Lifer
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Impeach?

Bush - NO He didn't know any better. Also tha tards who voted for him again in '04.

Cheney - Yes as outlined by GQ
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Resolved
That Richard B. Cheney, vice president of the United States, be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors; that the evidence hereinafter set out sustains six articles of impeachment justifying immediate removal from office; that said articles shall be adopted by the House of Representatives; and that the same shall be endorsed by the Senate, to wit:

ARTICLE I
In his conduct of the office of the vice president of the United States, Richard B. Cheney, contrary to his oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws of this nation be upheld, has deliberately obstructed the nation?s intelligence-gathering capacity, in that:


(1) During the several months preceding the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the vice president endeavored to bypass the role of the Central Intelligence Agency as the nation?s principal filter of raw intelligence, directing subordinates within the agency to ?stovepipe? raw intelligence directly to his office.

(2) As a result of this policy, the vice president became privy to unanalyzed, unverified data that should not have been available to him, including documents that seemed to indicate that Saddam Hussein may have attempted to purchase yellowcake uranium from the African country of Niger in February 1999.

(3) Relying on these documents, and ignoring the CIA?s assessment that they were most likely fabrications, the vice president proceeded to publicize the Niger documents and encouraged the president to refer to them in his 2003 State of the Union address, deliberately obstructing the role of the CIA and promoting known forgeries to bolster his case for war.

(4) At the same time, acting personally and through his subordinates, the vice president conspired with Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to create a substitute intelligence agency within the Pentagon, known as the Office of Special Plans, with instructions to contradict unfavorable information emerging from the CIA.

(5) Under this mandate, the Office of Special Plans sought to undermine the authority legally vested in the CIA, cultivating intelligence sources known to be discredited and embarking on extralegal ?missions? to Iraq without consulting the nation?s legitimate intelligence services.

(6) In these distortions of the nation?s intelligence-gathering process, the vice president, acting personally and through subordinates, has obstructed the democratic institutions of the nation and undermined the rule of law.

In all of this, Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as vice president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office.

ARTICLE II
Using the powers of the office of the vice president of the United States, Richard B. Cheney, contrary to his oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws of this nation be upheld, has personally deceived the American people, in that:


(1) During the several months preceding the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, and thereafter, the vice president became aware that no certain evidence existed of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, a fact articulated in several official documents, including:

(a) A report by the Pentagon?s Defense Intelligence Agency, concluding that ?there is no reliable information on whether Iraq is producing and stockpiling chemical weapons, or where Iraq has?or will?establish its chemical warfare agent production facilities.?

(b) A National Intelligence Estimate, compiled by the nation?s intelligence agencies, admitting to ?little speci?c information? about chemical weapons in Iraq.

(c) A later section of the same NIE, admitting ?low confidence? that Saddam Hussein ?would engage in clandestine attacks against the U.S. Homeland,? and equally ?low confidence? that he would ?share chemical or biological weapons with al-Qa?ida.?

(d) An addendum by the State Department?s Bureau of Intelligence and Research, asserting that Hussein?s quest for yellowcake uranium in Africa was ?highly dubious? and that his acquisition of certain machine parts, considered by some to be evidence of a nuclear program, were ?not clearly linked to a nuclear end use.?

(e) A report by the United States Department of Energy, stating that the machinery in question was ?poorly suited? for nuclear use.

(2) Despite these questions and uncertainties, and having full awareness of them, the vice president nevertheless proceeded to misrepresent the facts in his public statements, claiming that there was no doubt about the existence of chemical and biological weapons in Iraq and that a full-scale nuclear program was known to exist, including:

(a) March 17, 2002: ?We know they have biological and chemical weapons.?

(b) March 19, 2002: ?We know they are pursuing nuclear weapons.?

(c) March 24, 2002: ?He is actively pursuing nuclear weapons.?

(d) May 19, 2002: ?We know he?s got chemical and biological?we know he?s working on nuclear.?

(e) August 26, 2002: ?We now know that Saddam has resumed his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons? Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt that he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us.?

(f) March 16, 2003: ?We believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons.?

(3) At the same time, despite overwhelming skepticism within the government of a link between Iraq and Al Qaeda?resulting in the conclusion of the 9/11 Commission that ?no credible evidence? for such a link existed, and the CIA?s determination that Hussein ?did not have a relationship? with Al Qaeda?the vice president continued to insist that the relationship had been confirmed, including:

(a) December 2, 2002: ?His regime has had high-level contacts with Al Qaeda going back a decade and has provided training to Al Qaeda terrorists.?

(b) January 30, 2003: ?His regime aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaeda. He could decide secretly to provide weapons of mass destruction to terrorists for use against us.?

(c) March 16, 2003: ?We know that he has a long-standing relationship with various terrorist groups, including the Al Qaeda organization.?

(d) September 14, 2003: ?We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and Al Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the ?90s, that it involved training, for example, on biological weapons and chemical weapons.?

(e) October 10, 2003: ?He also had an established relationship with Al Qaeda?providing training to Al Qaeda members in areas of poisons, gases, and conventional bombs.?

(f) January 9, 2004: ?Al Qaeda and the Iraqi intelligence services?have worked together on a number of occasions.?

(g) January 22, 2004: ?There?s overwhelming evidence that there was a connection between Al Qaeda and the Iraqi government?

(h) June 18, 2004: ?There clearly was a relationship. It?s been testified to. The evidence is overwhelming.?

(4) Through all of these misrepresentations, the vice president knowingly skewed the public?s perception of reality, clouded the nation?s ability to weigh evidence, and willfully disrupted the function of American democracy.

In all of this, Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as vice president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office.

ARTICLE III
In his conduct of the office of the vice president of the United States, Richard B. Cheney, contrary to his oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws of this nation be upheld, has deliberately embraced and sheltered a known criminal, to the great detriment of American policy, in that:


(1) During the months preceding the March 2003 invasion of Iraq, the vice president, acting personally and through his subordinates, granted special access to the Iraqi exile Ahmed Chalabi, relying on Chalabi for intelligence about Saddam Hussein?s alleged weapons of mass destruction, despite an outstanding warrant for Chalabi?s arrest on charges of bank fraud in the nation of Jordan, grave concerns from the CIA about Chalabi?s credibility, and a 2002 British assessment that Chalabi was ?a convicted fraudster.?

(2) As the initial stage of the war concluded and Chalabi?s claims proved false, the vice president nevertheless continued privately to champion Chalabi as a leader for the new Iraqi government, ignoring a litany of troubling accusations and events, including:

(a) May 19, 2004: The Department of Defense discontinues monthly payments to Chalabi, pending charges of fraud.

(b) May 20, 2004: U.S. troops, along with Iraqi forces, storm Chalabi?s home, seizing documents and computers for a criminal probe.

(c) June 2004: The New York Times reports that Chalabi has disclosed U.S. secrets to Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

(3) When an employee of the Coalition Provisional Authority named Thomas Warrick voiced concerns about Chalabi to his superiors, the vice president intervened to demand that Warrick be fired, causing Warrick?s unique contributions to the occupation?including a series of prescient written warnings about the rise of insurgency?to be lost, and the nation?s ability to function at war compromised.

(4) As late as November 2005, the vice president continued to offer public support and safe harbor to Chalabi, inviting him to visit the White House and providing personal welcome to a known criminal.

In all of this, Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as vice president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office.

ARTICLE IV
In his conduct of the office of the vice president of the United States, Richard B. Cheney, contrary to his oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws of this nation be upheld, has maintained an improper and unethical relationship with his former employers at Halliburton and has promoted its agenda and interests over those of the American people, in that:


(1) In September 2003, the vice president claimed to have ?severed all my ties with the company? and to have ?no financial interest in Halliburton of any kind,? where in truth he did, at that time, continue to earn more than $150,000 per year in delayed compensation from Halliburton, as well as a portfolio in excess of 230,000 stock options of the company, worth more than $10 million.

(2) Bolstered by this economic incentive to promote the interests of Halliburton, the vice president did choose to remain silent as the company was exposed in a series of financial scandals at the expense of the American people, including:

(a) February 2002: Halliburton is forced to pay $2 million after being charged by the Justice Department for fraud committed against the Pentagon during the vice president?s tenure as CEO.

(b) May 2002: The company is investigated by the SEC for fraudulent accounting practices and inflation of its stock price during the vice president?s tenure as CEO.

(c) March 2003: The company is investigated by a congressional committee for receiving favorable contracts from the Pentagon, outside normal review processes.

(d) May 2003: The company admits to having bribed a Nigerian official with millions of dollars in exchange for tax exemptions.

(e) December 2003: The company is found by the Defense Contract Audit Agency, a unit of the Pentagon, to have overcharged and defrauded the government of more than $100 million.

(f) January 2004: The company admits that its employees have accepted $6 million in kickbacks from a Kuwaiti company in exchange for a portion of U.S. government contracts.

(3) Through his silence on these and other scandals involving his former employer and source of several million dollars in assets, the vice president exhibited not only a failure of leadership but a lack of integrity that has tarnished the office of the vice president.

In all of this, Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as vice president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office.

ARTICLE V
Using the powers of the office of the vice president of the United States, Richard B. Cheney, contrary to his oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws of this nation be upheld, has granted improper and unlawful influence over national policy to an anonymous cabal of corporate lobbyists, in that:


(1) In January 2001, the vice president did oversee a secret task force composed of corporate lobbyists and executives from the oil, gas, coal, and nuclear-energy sector, known collectively as the National Energy Policy Development Group, instructing them to meet regularly and develop the nation?s energy policy.

(2) By conducting these meetings in secret, the vice president did endeavor to impart influence to corporate interests without public knowledge, eclipsing not only the oversight function of Congress generally but the specific role of the energy committees in both the House of Representatives and the Senate.

(3) During the course of these secret meetings, the vice president allowed lobbyists representing the oil, coal, gas, and nuclear-energy industries to compose, word-for-word, the national energy policy adopted by the Department of Energy, in gross violation of the public trust and all ethical norms.

In all of this, Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as vice president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of justice, and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office.

ARTICLE VI
In his conduct of the office of the vice president of the United States, Richard B. Cheney, contrary to his oath to faithfully execute the office of vice president of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws of this nation be upheld, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, in that:


(1) On March 25, 2002, and thereafter, the vice president did willfully disobey court orders to identify the members of the National Energy Policy Development Group.

(2) In September 2002, and prior thereto, the vice president did also refuse requests by Representatives Henry Waxman and John Dingell, as well as the Government Accountability Office, to release transcripts and papers produced by the aforementioned group.

(3) In both of these cases, the requested names and documenting papers were deemed necessary to resolve by direct evidence fundamental, factual questions relating to the vice president?s reliance on special interests and corporate lobbyists in the formation of national policy, and the release of said papers was ordered by the United States District Court and upheld by the United States Court of Appeals.

(4) In refusing to produce said names, transcripts, and papers, and by continuing to keep the deliberations of the National Energy Policy Development Group secret, the vice president, substituting his judgment for the authority of the federal courts and ignoring the doctrine of congressional oversight, did assume to the office of the vice president authority, functions, and judgments forbidden by the United States Constitution.

In all of this, Richard B. Cheney has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as vice president and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, by such conduct, is guilty of an impeachable offense warranting removal from office.

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Pretty well laid out IMHO, Bush would not be in this position if not for Cheney, he is the man behind the curtain.

men.style.com rofl hahahaaaa what a credible link thats too funny...I am disappointed in you for even enteretaining the idea ayouabeee,,,,,rofl
 
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I don't care where that came from, it's well written and lays it out very clearly. Article I and Article II are more than enough to get that sneering fat coward out of office.
 

kage69

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I?m telling you that when you?re calling for blood, then blood is what you shall get. Let me quote it again just so it sinks in.


Hey idiot, I didn't "call for blood," you're the one attributing sentiments of civil war and blazing guns to what I said. Is that sinking in at all?
Let me dumb this down (hopefully) enough so that it might sink in better: Wanting the VP to be accountable to the oath he took and to uphold the trust put in him by the people does not equal "get your guns, we're over-throwing the government."

Comprende? Or are you gonna ignore this again and continue on with the ignorant, self-righteous e-thug routine?


Calling for violence against our President(s) is well above and beyond an impeachment.

I'm calling for punishment, as he's certainly deserving of it. But that isn't really a big deal, what's even more alarming is the defensive cheerleading you're engaging in (complete with duhversions, unfounded accusations, and faulty assumptions) on Cheney's behalf despite his appalling record and flagrant disregard for the duties of his office.

Back to your hole, ostrich boy. :roll:
 

ayabe

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Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
men.style.com rofl hahahaaaa what a credible link thats too funny...I am disappointed in you for even enteretaining the idea ayouabeee,,,,,rofl

Another winning post.

I'm glad you like it, and me for that matter, since you want to threadcrap every time I post.


 

BMW540I6speed

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Our leaders didn't have to go to the Middle East to learn this behavior. In fact, they descended into Iraq of their own free will (with the shameful acquiescence of our elected representatives), and not in response to any aggression from that country.

Ahmadinejad's rise to power was accelerated by our hostility toward Iran and the contamination of Iranian reformers' efforts by expressions of U.S. support.

The largely homegrown version of imperial hubris and bellicosity was telegraphed and codified by the Project for the New American Century, which basically boils down to what every extortionist thinks he knows:

We can force people to do what we want; therefore we will. The extortionist believes this to be true and acts upon this belief until reality defeats him.

One thing we might also consider when we try to understand the unrelenting insistence on demonstrating strength:

This administration fears negotiation because it believes that their adversaries are better at it than they are. If they can't scare or beat their "enemies" into submission, they got nothin'.

Now look at what this administration have wrought:

Our demonstration of strength in the Middle East has revealed our weaknesses and weakens us further every day.

Our insistence on total control and our failure to consult in good faith are pushing our allies away from us.

Our disregard for laws and treaties have marked us as an international outlaw. In so many ways, our stature in the world has been reduced, making it more difficult than ever for our malicious, greedy, but weak-minded leaders to find any way out of this mess other than military defeat. Contrary to all the writing on the walls, they persist in believing that they will not be the ones defeated.

 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: Genx87
When politics is involved there is always two sides to the same set of facts.
Our country has better things to do than fufill some liberal fantasy of impeaching people from this administration.
Out in the normal world, that's called accountability. Bush is such a failure because he's spent his entire life without ever being held accountable for his actions. His faithful continue to enable this deficiency.


While I think the OP lays out a great case for impeaching Cheney and nicely highlights the dishonesty used to dupe Americans into Iraq, I hope everyone recognizes that actually impeaching Cheney, or even Cheney and Bush both, is very much a double-edged sword. It would give the GOP a chance to get one of their favored sons into the V.P. role for a year and a half. That could be a huge boon when running for President in 2008.
Continue with your fantasy, nobody is stopping you, but dont expect it to happen.
Our country has better things to worry about.
I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved a bit.

k
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

If Liberals want civil war, remember who has the guns. You had best be prepared to back up your violent rhetoric.

So you think defending a traitor like cheney is worth a civil war? I can see that your allegiance stands with party and not to country.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

If Liberals want civil war, remember who has the guns. You had best be prepared to back up your violent rhetoric.

I love how you completely ignore the fact that the President and the Vice President more or less trampled the Constitution, your rights, and your future. Yet, all you can do is say that "liberals" (ie anybody who thinks that Bush did the above, which now encompasses the majority of the country) should be wary of a civil war.

I?m telling you that when you?re calling for blood, then blood is what you shall get. Let me quote it again just so it sinks in.

Originally posted by: kage69
The sonavabitch traitor deserves to be tarred and feathered. Impeachment, while certainly called for, doesn't come close to a real punishment for this goon.

Calling for violence against our President(s) is well above and beyond an impeachment.

Tarring and feathering involves blood?
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: JEDIYoda
men.style.com rofl hahahaaaa what a credible link thats too funny...I am disappointed in you for even enteretaining the idea ayouabeee,,,,,rofl

Another winning post.

I'm glad you like it, and me for that matter, since you want to threadcrap every time I post.

Whats funny is that alot of the best news and issue coverage out there isn't in Time or newsweek, its in Playboy, GQ and other, similar, magazines.
 

LtPage1

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If the political will to impeach Cheney existed, we could nail Bush as well. Hell, let's impeach the entire Cabinet.