GPU Upgrade: 7850 versus GTX 570

[aaksheytalwar]

Something was very wrong with your card then because ultra is silky smooth on my rig

No prob with my 7970 oc either

 

[aaksheytalwar]

7850 oc compares with 580 oc which is a small upgrade from 570 stock

 

[Silverforce11]

Most people were expecting 28nm to produce gtx580 performance at $250 and much less power use.

We just have to work a bit and OC to get it. Not that its hard really. Download Asus GPU tweak, set it to 1.2ghz and 1.25vcore, play games and run benchmarks, if its stable you got OC gtx580 performance. If you are ballsy you can push it further.

 

[Upgrade_Itch]

7850 is overpriced. 570 is old tech. Stock 570 better than 7850 at your resolution with 10%. Get a 7870 if you can get one at around 320$.

What? If anything the 7870 is overpriced.............7850 is bang for the buck...prolly THE most bang for the buck (for people with money problems)

 

[Upgrade_Itch]

Explosions in BF3 on my 7970 was rendering it unplayable with max settings. IMO this is unacceptable for a $475 card. The card sounded like a machine gun from the coil whine being so bad while gaming.

Coil whine on a 7970? Maybe because you overclocked in bios 1? Bios 2 is for overclocking......

 

[Hypertag]

What? If anything the 7870 is overpriced.

The 7870 is definitely the most overpriced. If you ignore the clock speed difference between the 7870 and 7850, then there isn't much difference between the two. The mythical "just overclock the 7850 and get 7970 performance" is fairly ludicrous. The price of the GTX 570 is fairly high. Sincerely, there isn't much of anything compelling in this price range currently. It is just debating between which card is the least overpriced.

 

[Upgrade_Itch]

Ya, the 7850 is a nice card + oc's fantastic but in no way similar to a 7970 overclocked.

But if money was tight I'd have opted for a 7850 myself. I def recommend it in the $250 bracket.

 

[ocre]

please stop going by those numbers on that chart in your link. some people did not try to exceed CCC limits and some clearly made no effort at all for a high oc and one person even left theirs stock. all it takes is common sense to realize those numbers you just averaged together are NOT representative of what the 7850 can do.

what a collection real 7850 owners and their overclock? They are representative of real people who actually bought a 7850. Please stop telling the OP he is guaranteed such high overclocks. It only has the chance of disappointment. If he gets great clocks out of one, then he does. But you cannot sit here and make such claims when there is a chance he cant.

Look, i will but it simple for you.

I am saying that you dont need to buy a card with wild +40% overclocks in mind. If you buy a card and get those kind of clocks then great. Most people who buy the card will not. this is the reality.

He very well may get high clocks, and thats a bonus. Why are you insisting on something that you know is not guaranteed?

 

[Don Karnage]

He very well may get high clocks, and thats a bonus. Why are you insisting on something that you know is not guaranteed?

1100 core is guaranteed on a 7850 if you know how to download asus gpu tweak

 

[aaksheytalwar]

1100 core is guaranteed on a 7850 if you know how to download asus gpu tweak

It is guaranteed even without it. Just install msi afterburner and you are assured 1100-1150 with a slight volt increase at most

 

[toyota]

what a collection real 7850 owners and their overclock? They are representative of real people who actually bought a 7850. Please stop telling the OP he is guaranteed such high overclocks. It only has the chance of disappointment. If he gets great clocks out of one, then he does. But you cannot sit here and make such claims when there is a chance he cant.

Look, i will but it simple for you.

I am saying that you dont need to buy a card with wild +40% overclocks in mind. If you buy a card and get those kind of clocks then great. Most people who buy the card will not. this is the reality.

He very well may get high clocks, and thats a bonus. Why are you insisting on something that you know is not guaranteed?

and I will make it simple for you. all I am saying is that chart is useless because MANY of those people did NOT even try to oc their card very high. that's pretty clear when you see one guy is even running the stock clocks.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

And very few people go beyond Ccc making that data pointless

 

[jmgamer]

@Ocre
Why go on so much about guarantees, of course nothing will be 100% guaranteed. Could just as well get a defective card, don't see what your point is.

I checked out owners threads for the 7850 and the worst OC I saw was like 1125 stable. Sounds great to me.

Also, gigabyte doesn't even sell 7850's at stock clocks of 860, only OC'ed 975 versions. This also makes me think that 7850's are great overclockers unless gigabyte paid extra for binned gpus.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

975 is like a 15% oc already, even if it just does 20% more than is nearl 40% total

 

[Silverforce11]

Btw, i got it at 1250/5600, 1.225vcore, +25% powertune. Auto fan. <- lols

Fan rarely gets above 40% so you can't even hear it over the cpu cooler/psu. I was going to put on OCZ thermal compound but don't even need to, appears the sapphire cooler comes with decent paste already.

 

[RussianSensation]

I'm choosing between 7850 & GTX 570 (really looks like it'll be 7850 though) because I want a more sizable GPU upgrade over the 4870 than what the 6870 provides even if I'm not adequately using the GPU power available to me.

Then go for the 7850 2GB. Since you kept your 4870 for that long, 2GB will become useful for you as I presume you plan to keep this card for 2-3 years. In that case a 7850 OCed is worth it over the 570.

Before you pull the trigger, wait this week to see if GTX670 forces price cuts on HD7950/7870.

 

[3DVagabond]

Btw, i got it at 1250/5600, 1.225vcore, +25% powertune. Auto fan. <- lols

Fan rarely gets above 40% so you can't even hear it over the cpu cooler/psu. I was going to put on OCZ thermal compound but don't even need to, appears the sapphire cooler comes with decent paste already.

I think that's one of the benefits of Sapphire. Better QC, as well as, generally, better bundles.

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Something was very wrong with your card then because ultra is silky smooth on my rig

averaging below 60 and dipping below 40 for a minimum is completely unacceptable to me for an online shooter.

heck, I try to stay above 60 as a bare min baseline, and your average is below that

not saying the 7850 is a bad deal, on the contrary, I'm considering one for a teammate's rig for a different game, but some of us simply have higher standards. I'll gladly drop static image quality in favor of improved motion clarity and response time.

While it sounded like there was something definitely wrong with that dude's 7900, IMO no single GPU can run BF3 at acceptable rates without turning settings down.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Me too. But even my 6970 stock at 1920x1080 MAx with out AA/AF used to get better FPS than what you just said, I averaged around 60+ and minimum was 40s or 50s at least.