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tjlee2

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I. Processor/CPU- Intel Core i5 760 @ 2.8GHz

II. Current GPU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102908

III. Resolution- 1920X1080

IV. Power Supply- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139004

V. Case- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129042

Additional- I have concern my Mobo may be a bottleneck to performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128425


GPU Details

I. Budget- Under $500.

II. Preference- None

III. Multi-GPU- Unlikely.

IV. Potential products-

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130604

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130593

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

V. Purpose- Trying to find a GPU for playing Guild Wars 2 on max settings. Ideally, able to handle large battles (such as WvW) without too much slow down (above 30fps would be good).

VI. Overclock- No plans to.

Thank you for your time.
 
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SolMiester

SolMiester

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Dont think the 560's 1Gb on memory will be enough for your res, the 570 is old tech, but the 670 is apparently the sweet spot!
 
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3DVagabond

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If you aren't going to O/C then the 670 (@ $400 don't pay more) is the best choice. That depends a bit on what the 7950GE is going to be clocked at, but I'd be surprised if it's faster than the 670. I still think the 7950 is best bang/$, but if you aren't going to O/C you're leaving a lot of performance on the table.
 
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tjlee2

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Would I be able to safely O/C with my current set-up? Would I need to upgrade any other components, and a Mid tower may not have enough circulation? I apologize as I have never done O/C before.
 
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Borealis7

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with 500 bucks you can get anything there is on offer today. if i were buying, i'd go for a nice GTX 670 for around 400$.
 
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poohbear

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GTX 670 with custom cooling hands down. Don't even look at those other video cards since Kepler (GTX 670) is replacing them!

Gigabyte Windforce OC sells for the MSRP and has one of the best & quietest fans on the market for only $400! It also nibbles @ performance of the GTX 680 for $100 less!
 
RussianSensation

RussianSensation

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Core i5 @ 2.8ghz isn't that fast. If you don't overclock it, you might just grab HD7850 or even HD7950. $400 GTX670 will be severely bottlenecked with a stock 760 CPU in role-playing/MMOs and strategy genres. Guild Wars happens to fall into this category.

I am going to try to find benchmarks for this game but if it's anything like just about any game in these genres, you'll get more performance increase going from 2.8ghz to 3.9ghz CPU overclock than upgrading the GPU from HD7950 to GTX670 for example. In other words, if you are CPU bottlenecked, getting a $400 GPU is a total waste of $ over a $250-300 one.

EDIT: Ok it looks like this game launches August 28th? Just wait until it launches. No reason at all wasting $ before seeing what GPU is needed to get 60 FPS in this game. What if a GTX560 can do it for $160? What if NV launches GTX660/660Ti and there are more rounds of price cuts? etc.

Most likely than not, just like most MMOs, this game will be insanely CPU limited but could be maxed out with a $200 GPU no problem. In other words, what you want is to overclock that i5 760.
 
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RussianSensation

RussianSensation

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Update: Found some benchmarks for Guild Wars 2 Beta Build.

Looks like this particular game is all about NV graphics cards and Core i series CPUs:

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Source
 
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zaydq

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i wonder if AMD's adaptive AA is on on CC.... those benchmarks are hard core nvidia humpers.
 
RussianSensation

RussianSensation

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Crap Daddy said:
Those results are ridiculous. But why am I not surprised?
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API for Guild Wars 2 Beta is DirectX 9. With the release of the final version of the developers have promised to introduce support for DirectX 10. It could be that AMD GCN runs poorly with this DX9 codepath and it may improve with DX10 and more recent drivers. That doesn't explain why HD5000 series is not even filtering the game textures correctly. Maybe AMD didn't even start working on optimizing for this game yet, which I find rather odd since the launch date is next month. It could be that FXAA filtering is working much faster on NV cards. I don't know exactly what the technical explanation is.

zaydq said:
i wonder if AMD's adaptive AA is on on CC.... those benchmarks are hard core nvidia humpers.
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If you look at the video, they just have a character running around. I am not seeing any foul play in those benchmarks. It looks like they enabled FXAA through the game's settings as a method of AA.

Also, even when they dropped the quality level to high from very high, NV cards still lead by a mile:

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zaydq

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Considering the HD 5870 is on par with the HD 7970 leads me to believe its game/driver optimization issues. Let alone a 560Ti is leading an HD 6990.

I THINK i recall reading that AMD's current gen cards have issues with Dx9 execution.
 
RussianSensation

RussianSensation

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zaydq said:
Considering the HD 5870 is on par with the HD 7970 leads me to believe its game/driver optimization issues. Let alone a 560Ti is leading an HD 6990.

I THINK i recall reading that AMD's current gen cards have issues with Dx9 execution.
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The SLI/CF profiles are not there for either the GTX590/6990. So their lack of scaling is expected at this stage.
 
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