Sadly, no one really cares.
That is true. No one really pays attention. But it also might depend on the field of study.
Sadly, no one really cares.
I don't see what's wrong with listing your GPA, if it's good. If you have work experience, too, why can't you list both? Do they look at your exceptional GPA and go "Oh, this person did well in school! Pass."?
I would say getting through almost any engineering program, shows that you are more then willing to apply material correctly...Meaning that engineering is so broad and complex that you will learn how to apply the specific subset that they need you to apply to.
Then again, there are times when I need to double check the resume to make sure it said EE based on the terrible responses I'm getting to my questions.
I can only speak for my major (EE), but putting GPA definitely matters. I was told by one of the advisers unless you have 3.7 or above don't put your GPA. I went to the career fair with my resume w/o a GPA the next morning and spoke with 5 large companies. Each of them asked me what my GPA was and when I said 3.4, three of the five asked me why I didn't put it on there. One even said basically they usually assume no GPA assumes -> <3.0 GPA -> move along we're not interested.
What if someone has a 3.9 GPA? I don't see why that person should leave it out, unless if he/she has work experience so "perfect" that a 3.9 GPA can actually be detrimental, because he or she screwed up once and got a B+.I have to agree. I don't think you need to make it huge and draw attention to it. For my next job it will be gone because I'll have better experience that will be more important.
What you put is magna cum laude, honors or whatever.
So, putting "3.92" would be detrimental, and it's better to be professionally simple? Like, be simple with details, but somehow imply that you did damned well.I just thought of that when I saw the thread title again, and was coming back here to post exactly that. You don't need to say "3.92":
"B.S. Mechanical Engineering, Summa Cum Laude 2009"
is sufficient.
What if someone has a 3.9 GPA? I don't see why that person should leave it out, unless if he/she has work experience so "perfect" that a 3.9 GPA can actually be detrimental, because he or she screwed up once and got a B+.
Yeah, but if I put it anyway, it wouldn't be disadvantageous? Just an academic question.I don't really understand your question. I think you should put it on for your first job, but you don't need to make it huge or draw attention to it. After your first job you don't really need it on there because your experience matters more than your GPA. After you've been out of school a few years nobody cares what your GPA is, that's ancient history.
Yeah, but if I put it anyway, it wouldn't be disadvantageous? Just an academic question.
Agreed. Nor have I ever hired anyone that puts their GPA on their resume.
That's the thing. "The material" in school is barely relevant to the real world. The internships are applying the material. School is just teaching you effective way to cram for exams.
Yeah! Put a random number so the employer feels stupid because they haven't heard of the new system.just put "Over 9000"
Sadly many jobs for people directly out of college want your GPA now.
When I got out of college about 4 years ago, not a single company cared what my GPA was. Has it really changed in just a few years?
What? Are you a super genius I guess? It depends on the school/field, classes you choose, etc. It can be very hard to get a good GPA in college, depending on what you do, and unless you're in the top 3% of your class, you aren't getting a 3.8 GPA in any tough field. Again, rules don't apply if you're a genius.
I'm glad you must be a genius, do you just punch any applicants that don't have a good GPA in the face when you do their interview and tell them they should thank you?
that is if you are even involved in the hiring.
If I have two entry level candidates with no experience, you can damn well bet I'm gonna look at their GPA. Getting a 3.0 in any field of study isn't that difficult. If it is, you're probably in the wrong field.
Experience always trumps GPA, but if experience is non-existent or equal, GPA is definitely good to look at, especially at near entry-level positions.
is your job highly technical?