Government shouldn't have any right to say things they know nothing about.

[IGBT]

Originally posted by: IamDavid

Originally posted by: IGBT
It's all about liberal "moral vanity". They're not to be judged by results, only their intentions.

i like that. u make that up? and i'm not anti liberal.

it's accurate observation.

 

[smashp]

The "free Market" types can go F them selves. Its funny when you look at the Markets ability in the past to regulate stuff. I mean Teddy got it, whay cant you

The Jungle

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: IGBT

Originally posted by: IamDavid

Originally posted by: IGBT
It's all about liberal "moral vanity". They're not to be judged by results, only their intentions.

i like that. u make that up? and i'm not anti liberal.

it's accurate observation.

Yeah, of both parties.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: smashp
The "free Market" types can go F them selves. Its funny when you look at the Markets ability in the past to regulate stuff. I mean Teddy got it, whay cant you

The Jungle

Yeah, and what we are experiencing now is a wonderfully managed, highly successful, government-regulated economy. :laugh:

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: smashp
The "free Market" types can go F them selves. Its funny when you look at the Markets ability in the past to regulate stuff. I mean Teddy got it, whay cant you

The Jungle

They don't get it because they don't have to. They never have to worry about any government implementing the truly free market, because nobody sane wants that. Therefore they can sit on the sidelines forever and harp on society for not being a libertopia, and never have to actually implement their policies.

Pure Libertarians (who are in effect anarcho-capitalists) are people who cannot comprehend the long term consequences of the policies they promote.

 

[tfcmasta97]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: smashp
The "free Market" types can go F them selves. Its funny when you look at the Markets ability in the past to regulate stuff. I mean Teddy got it, whay cant you

The Jungle

Yeah, and what we are experiencing now is a wonderfully managed, highly successful, government-regulated economy. :laugh:

I love how bamacre cant even defend his position at all, let alone make any real point for his side :laugh:

Love the irony that is reality, of 16,000 posts is a single one worth anything?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
They never have to worry about any government implementing the truly free market, because nobody sane wants that.

Yeah, governments are always looking for ways to decrease their power and control over people and the marketplace.

:laugh: :laugh:

Therefore they can sit on the sidelines forever and harp on society for not being a libertopia, and never have to actually implement their policies.

Nobody said anything about a utopia, and ironically it you all who are seeking a utopia, thinking you can have just the right amount of government intervention and regulation and control over just the right amount of the marketplace. And what happens, the same thing that always happens, you guys sit on the sidelines and try to perfect your house of cards when the economy crumbles, people start losing their jobs, and the debts climber higher and higher. Always demanding change, and never getting it. Because you don't know what change is.

Pure Libertarians (who are in effect anarcho-capitalists) are people who cannot comprehend the long term consequences of the policies they promote.

If that isn't irony, I don't know what is.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
I love how bamacre cant even defend his position at all, let alone make any real point for his side :laugh:

Love the irony that is reality, of 16,000 posts is a single one worth anything?

Can't attack what I say, so attack me.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eskimospy
They never have to worry about any government implementing the truly free market, because nobody sane wants that.

Yeah, governments are always looking for ways to decrease their power and control over people and the marketplace.

:laugh: :laugh:

Therefore they can sit on the sidelines forever and harp on society for not being a libertopia, and never have to actually implement their policies.

Nobody said anything about a utopia, and ironically it you all who are seeking a utopia, thinking you can have just the right amount of government intervention and regulation and control over just the right amount of the marketplace. And what happens, the same thing that always happens, you guys sit on the sidelines and try to perfect your house of cards when the economy crumbles, people start losing their jobs, and the debts climber higher and higher. Always demanding change, and never getting it. Because you don't know what change is.

Pure Libertarians (who are in effect anarcho-capitalists) are people who cannot comprehend the long term consequences of the policies they promote.

If that isn't irony, I don't know what is.

Nobody is seeking a utopia, just the best way to deal with the world's problems. Libertopia simply refers to the Libertarians' dream of a world free from government intervention, and like I said it's something that almost nobody wants.

Governments have been 'interfering' in markets for a long long time now, and yet society has endured just fine. If you can't see what would happen with all government regulation removed, then you're just burying your head in the sand. In a truly free market you would be eaten alive in no time flat.

 

[her209]

Can we apply this to the population in general? it would certainly cut down on the bullshit.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Governments have been 'interfering' in markets for a long long time now, and yet society has endured just fine.

Then why are people always seeking change and hope?

 

[tfcmasta97]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
I love how bamacre cant even defend his position at all, let alone make any real point for his side :laugh:

Love the irony that is reality, of 16,000 posts is a single one worth anything?

Can't attack what I say, so attack me.

:laugh: except for the thorough dismantling of your argument 10 posts above?? oh wait, if bamacre closes his eyes it didnt happen! i guess that is to be expected from you lol

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: tfcmasta97

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
I love how bamacre cant even defend his position at all, let alone make any real point for his side :laugh:

Love the irony that is reality, of 16,000 posts is a single one worth anything?

Can't attack what I say, so attack me.

:laugh: except for the thorough dismantling of your argument 10 posts above?? oh wait, if bamacre closes his eyes it didnt happen! i guess that is to be expected from you lol

What?

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: smashp
The "free Market" types can go F them selves. Its funny when you look at the Markets ability in the past to regulate stuff. I mean Teddy got it, whay cant you

The Jungle

Yeah, and what we are experiencing now is a wonderfully managed, highly successful, government-regulated economy. :laugh:

Too bad we couldnt wipe the slate clean and clear away the mistakes of the past. Just remember why the goverment is digging its hands so deeply into the economy and companies right now. Its Because of their

EPIC FAIL

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
If anything, Obama's fuel economy standards are a lot less harsh than the ones Bush proposed. With the US auto industry sinking, he figured easing the requirements a little would help keep them afloat.

So Obama hates the environment?

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: smashp
The "free Market" types can go F them selves. Its funny when you look at the Markets ability in the past to regulate stuff. I mean Teddy got it, whay cant you

The Jungle

Yeah, and what we are experiencing now is a wonderfully managed, highly successful, government-regulated economy. :laugh:

Too bad we couldnt wipe the slate clean and clear away the mistakes of the past. Just remember why the goverment is digging its hands so deeply into the economy and companies right now. Its Because of their

EPIC FAIL

Yeah, the whole mess is the fault of free markets. :roll:

I mean do you actually believe that?

 

[First]

If someone thinks something other than free markets was the main reason for collapse (after all, AIG, Bear, Lehman, etc. were not run by the gov't, they were private), those people will first have to actually address specifically what the gov't did. Uh oh, time for bamacre to wimp out. :laugh:

 

[smashp]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: smashp

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: smashp
The "free Market" types can go F them selves. Its funny when you look at the Markets ability in the past to regulate stuff. I mean Teddy got it, whay cant you

The Jungle

Yeah, and what we are experiencing now is a wonderfully managed, highly successful, government-regulated economy. :laugh:

Too bad we couldnt wipe the slate clean and clear away the mistakes of the past. Just remember why the goverment is digging its hands so deeply into the economy and companies right now. Its Because of their

EPIC FAIL

Yeah, the whole mess is the fault of free markets. :roll:

I mean do you actually believe that?

not what i said you hack, The goverment is taking over companies because of their failure. The Government is Bailing companies out because of their failure


you = Fail

 

[BassBomb]

Originally posted by: IamDavid

Originally posted by: ironwing
They don't tell the companies how to build cars. They set a mileage standard and tell the builders to meet it any way they can. It promotes cleaner air and energy conservation while providing a level playing field for all manufacturers. It encourages innovation in efficiency and cleaner technologies.

And somehow this is the governments job to do? Free markets will take care of any problems far quicker than our pathetic elected officials.
Need proof? Take a look at Tesla. I know they've still in the very early stages but they're already light years ahead of the Billion dollar companies..

So far ahead that they already need a bailout

 

[tfcmasta97]

Originally posted by: Evan
If someone thinks something other than free markets was the main reason for collapse (after all, AIG, Bear, Lehman, etc. were not run by the gov't, they were private), those people will first have to actually address specifically what the gov't did. Uh oh, time for bamacre to wimp out. :laugh:

:laugh: Facts sidestepped.

Why deal with reality when you can flood discussions with rivers of shit :laugh:
bermacre, do you assume that production of automobiles can thrive in the US again in a free market?

Ohh wait it's a question that needs a real answer, it'll just get 'missed'

:laugh::laugh:

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Governments have been 'interfering' in markets for a long long time now, and yet society has endured just fine.

Then why are people always seeking change and hope?

Because people by nature seek to alter their circumstances for the better? What kind of ridiculous question is this?

 

[Thump553]

Without government mandating standards on the auto industry, we'd still be driving cars without seatbelts, airbags or even safety glass. They would burn leaded fuel-with a huge increase of birth defects and lead poisoning among our children.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
If anything, Obama's fuel economy standards are a lot less harsh than the ones Bush proposed. With the US auto industry sinking, he figured easing the requirements a little would help keep them afloat.

he can appear to lower them because he's let carb dictate much tougher standards than the federal ones.

Originally posted by: IamDavid

And somehow this is the governments job to do? Free markets will take care of any problems far quicker than our pathetic elected officials.
Need proof? Take a look at Tesla. I know they've still in the very early stages but they're already light years ahead of the Billion dollar companies..

doesn't work all that well when the market has underpriced the cost of oil for decades.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: Atheus

Originally posted by: Xellos2099
how come he have the right to tell the company on how to build their car?

yea he no have right! he bad man! Xellos angry... Xellos smash!

I love humor!!

 

[First]

Originally posted by: tfcmasta97

Originally posted by: Evan
If someone thinks something other than free markets was the main reason for collapse (after all, AIG, Bear, Lehman, etc. were not run by the gov't, they were private), those people will first have to actually address specifically what the gov't did. Uh oh, time for bamacre to wimp out. :laugh:

:laugh: Facts sidestepped.

Why deal with reality when you can flood discussions with rivers of shit :laugh:
bermacre, do you assume that production of automobiles can thrive in the US again in a free market?

Ohh wait it's a question that needs a real answer, it'll just get 'missed'

:laugh::laugh:

Haha, but bamarce knows the gov't caused this collapse. Why? Because his Libertarian newsletter says so damn it! :laugh: